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Yawnz13 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who said anything about the Chamber of Commerce?

Bringing up individual lobbyists is the point. Simply looking at lobbying on a subject-matter basis presumes equal intent across most or all of lobbyists that fall into the specific category.

As for the source "being there", that again remains to be seen. There's no legitimate reason to keep your source behind any kind of pay/registration wall. If you aren't willing to freely post where your information comes from, that does nothing but garner suspicion.

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iDinduNuffin 1 point ago +1 / -0

You said the National Assn of Realtors was on top "by a long shot". It's not. The Chamber of Commerce is right behind it.

There's no difference between presuming the intent of an individual lobbyist or all of them. The actual point here was that Vaccine companies (plural) are the largest lobby (collective). So I suppose if you really cared about being accurate, you'd have to go through all 400+ lobbyists from the industry, see which specific companies each of them represent, and see what involvement each of those have with vaccines.

Personally I'm satisfied that most of them are full of psychopathic freaks and have far too much power in government. Though if we're just talking general influence now, AIPAC blows them out of the water.

As for the source "being there", that again remains to be seen.

For you maybe. The reason to put it behind a registration wall is to get people to register. It garners plenty of annoyance, not just suspicion. But if you're specifically interested in the source, not the site's content, I imagine you'd just go to the actual source itself, like I did. Especially since that's less effort anyway.

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Yawnz13 1 point ago +1 / -0

Again, who's saying anything about the Chamber of Commerce? Was this topic not about pharmaceutical companies? The National Association of Realtors is ahead of any pharm lobbyist by a long shot. It isn't that hard to understand.

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iDinduNuffin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who said anything about the National Association of Realtors?

Yes, this topic is about pharmaceutical companies. Who said anything about how much an individual pharma lobbyist spends?

You seem to be having a completely separate discussion.

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Yawnz13 1 point ago +1 / -0

You did by claiming that pharm companies were the largest lobbyists and linked OpenSecrets as your source. OpenSecrets disproved that claim by illustrating that the National Association of Realtors was the top lobbyist.

Looking at what individual lobbyists spend is part of looking at the whole. You can't simply presume that the group all lobbies for the same thing.

I'm not having a completely seperate discussion at all. You're attempting to deflect your poor logic by playing dumb.