You did by claiming that pharm companies were the largest lobbyists and linked OpenSecrets as your source. OpenSecrets disproved that claim by illustrating that the National Association of Realtors was the top lobbyist.
Looking at what individual lobbyists spend is part of looking at the whole. You can't simply presume that the group all lobbies for the same thing.
I'm not having a completely seperate discussion at all. You're attempting to deflect your poor logic by playing dumb.
Again, who's saying anything about the National Association of Realtors? Who said anything about what the top individual lobbyist was? Stop lying. The claim was about the largest lobby. The largest lobby is pharmaceuticals and health products.
These mental gymnastics are sad. You're either a pharma shill or you didn't know how to navigate the site, looked at the wrong stats, made yourself look stupid and were too arrogant to accept it.
Where did I lie? The original claim was that pharmacuetical companies spent the most money, and that was disproven by your OpenSecrets link. Again, why are you presuming that all pharmaceutical lobbyists are the same?
No, it didn't. My link was to the overall summary. It was you that chose to look at Top Spenders instead of Industries, because you can't comprehend what "largest lobby" means or just don't know how to read statistics.
You did by claiming that pharm companies were the largest lobbyists
That's where you lied.
The original claim was that pharmacuetical companies spent the most money, and that was disproven by your OpenSecrets link.
But they do spend the most money. They spend $306,226,988, which is double the runner-up.
Again, why are you presuming the top spending pharmaceutical company you picked out has involvement in vaccines? Maybe they don't. We already went through this.
Yes, it did. On the left-hand side of your link is a sidebar that you can use to navigate to a breakdown by individual lobbyist. You providing a parent link is no different than proviing the direct link.
Where did I lie? You provided those sources based on the idea that they supported the claim made by the original poster of the topic. Supporting a claim is no different than making the claim yourself.
They don't. No individual pharmaceutical company is the highest lobbyist. Again, an aggregate number means nothing because you have no evidence that they all lobby for the same reason If they all lobbied for the same reason, there would be no need for separate groups.
You did by claiming that pharm companies were the largest lobbyists and linked OpenSecrets as your source. OpenSecrets disproved that claim by illustrating that the National Association of Realtors was the top lobbyist.
Looking at what individual lobbyists spend is part of looking at the whole. You can't simply presume that the group all lobbies for the same thing.
I'm not having a completely seperate discussion at all. You're attempting to deflect your poor logic by playing dumb.
Again, who's saying anything about the National Association of Realtors? Who said anything about what the top individual lobbyist was? Stop lying. The claim was about the largest lobby. The largest lobby is pharmaceuticals and health products.
These mental gymnastics are sad. You're either a pharma shill or you didn't know how to navigate the site, looked at the wrong stats, made yourself look stupid and were too arrogant to accept it.
Your link did, retard.
Where did I lie? The original claim was that pharmacuetical companies spent the most money, and that was disproven by your OpenSecrets link. Again, why are you presuming that all pharmaceutical lobbyists are the same?
No, it didn't. My link was to the overall summary. It was you that chose to look at Top Spenders instead of Industries, because you can't comprehend what "largest lobby" means or just don't know how to read statistics.
That's where you lied.
But they do spend the most money. They spend $306,226,988, which is double the runner-up.
Again, why are you presuming the top spending pharmaceutical company you picked out has involvement in vaccines? Maybe they don't. We already went through this.
Yes, it did. On the left-hand side of your link is a sidebar that you can use to navigate to a breakdown by individual lobbyist. You providing a parent link is no different than proviing the direct link.
Where did I lie? You provided those sources based on the idea that they supported the claim made by the original poster of the topic. Supporting a claim is no different than making the claim yourself.
They don't. No individual pharmaceutical company is the highest lobbyist. Again, an aggregate number means nothing because you have no evidence that they all lobby for the same reason If they all lobbied for the same reason, there would be no need for separate groups.