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randomusers239874 3 points ago +4 / -1

No... RNA is how your body produces proteins. DNA is first transcribed to RNA in the nucleus, then RNA is used to produce proteins in the ribosomes. In addition, injection of RNA is how many viruses work as well; the vaccine emulates that same mechanism. RNA is quickly degraded by natural RNase in the cell, so I'm not sure where you're hearing it "can't be shut off". I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about; there are plenty of legitimate reasons to not get it (i.e. you're not old as dirt, or an ultra-fat), so there is no reason to make up stupid shit.

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BasedDoc -1 points ago +3 / -4

This. This is exactly right. Also, for some reason nobody ever mentions this, but this is also how RNA and DNA viruses naturally replicate. The virus is a vehicle that injects its DNA or RNA into the host cell, where it takes over your cellular machinery to manufacture more viruses. This vaccine takes advantage of this process, probably using an inactivated virus as a vehicle to get the spike protein RNA and use your own cells to manufacture just that protein. It's actually an ingenious invention. This vaccine is no more gene therapy than getting the cold or flu bug (or covid). Like you said, there are many reasons to be cautions, but there are zero reasons to spread this kind of bullshit. The science is solid, I'm waiting for more evidence of safety and efficacy, but I'll probably take it eventually. Because if there is no real risk, I have no reason not to take it. I had covid once, I don't want it again if I can avoid it safely and effectively, and prevent spreading it to my elderly family members.

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chickeninoven 3 points ago +4 / -1

The science is so solid, that Moderna scrapped a $100 million project using this tech in 2017 because it was deemed "never will be safe for use in humans".

'Safe and effective', lol. Knock yourself out, buster.

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BasedDoc 1 point ago +1 / -0

Last I checked this is 2021, not 2017. In the early 19th century it was thought humans can't go more than 20 mph without suffocating. It was thought human flight was impossible. 4 years in the 20th century is a long time.

And I did say I am waiting for more safety and efficacy before I make the final decision for myself. But it's easy to selectively ignore a central premise and quote only the part that you don't agree with, right CNN?

The science of using a vector to inject MRNA and use it to manufacture a protein is solid, it works, as has been shown in the current vaccination. And in the short term at the very least, it's safe. Long term remains to be seen. And this is exactly what happens in nature. Your lack of understanding doesn't change anything. But speaking out of your ass in a community is like minded people is easy. I don't disagree with the vast majority of the people here on this because it's easy. I disagree because the arguments against the vaccine presented here are wrong. I'm not saying it's completely safe, that will ultimately be determined later on. I am saying it appears effective, the science works. Make up your own mind, but do it for the right reasons. There are plenty of good reason not to take the vaccine right now, I didn't. But the bullshit being spread on this site should not be a factor in your decision.

Edit: isn't it amazing how polarized we became? God forbid someone who knows the science tries to take a middle ground and suggest that people calling this gene therapy are wrong. Without even suggesting people should take the vaccine. We call the other side a religious cult (they are), but self reflection isn't exactly our forte it seems. Open your mind and maybe you'll actually learn something.