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BasedDoc 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm sorry, but nothing in your post correct, and none of what you wrote makes any sense.

That doesn't mean you should take the vaccine. That is always your decision.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

1st statement: you're saying the jab tries to recreate the entire genome of CCPvirus?

No it doesn't. It merely tries to recreate the spike protein. You yourself said so.

Second statement: the jab doesn't prevent infection or transmission. If you think it does, you need to argue with every public health authority over that as they are the ones saying this.

Start with those two points. These are important for everyone to understand. (Whether I'm right or not is irrelevant)

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BasedDoc 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have never said or implied that the vaccine tries to recreate the virus genome. I was talking about the difference between viral replication and the vaccine. The vaccine only generates the spike protein of the virus.

If you're trying to tell me that the vaccine doesn't prevent infection or transmission, then it flies in the face of every vaccine that has ever been made. It doesn't make any sense, and we should be smart enough to know when we're being lied to. And yes, I know that the medical people in power are the ones saying this, and I would be the first one to call them out on their bullshit if given the opportunity. So I don't mean you personally, I'm using "you" to describe the people who peddle this nonsense. These people are politicians first and medical officials second (or third). In fact, studies done in clinical trials of the vaccines (as brief as they are) showed excellent efficacy and prevention of reinfection. Whether asymptomatic people can spread the virus remains to be seen, but curent evidence seems to suggest the answer is no. Vaccinated or not.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

The vaccine is not a vaccine. It doesn't prevent infection or transmission. A vaccine does.

While you do have to dig, this information is available from every public health authority. And even just on the surface, the supposed need to wear a mask even after being jabbed is enough to tell you something's amiss.

It is an experimental biological agent. As you say, it might even work! There is some cleverness to it. The main problem is if we become like chickens, everyone an asymptomatic spreader and guaranteed to die without this non-vaccine. Even if that doesn't happen, other risks aren't known. CCPvirus doesn't pose as much of a risk for most people.

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BasedDoc 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most of your post is not wrong.

But the vaccine is a vaccine. The current data is showing that it does protect you from getting infected. Of course this is provided that the vaccine is effective against the strain that you may come in contact with. Some brands of the vaccine are better against the new strains than others, and of course whatever new strains emerge remains unknown. This may become like the flu shot. We will make an assumption as to which strains will be prominent this year and make a vaccine based on that. That is what I suspect will ultimately happen.

The need to wear a mask after the vaccine is the thing I have an issue with. It is based on the presumption of asymptomatic spread, which was the justification of mass masking in the first place. That entire concept has been debunked as far as I understand, but of course the mask recommendation continues. What I'm trying to tell you is that this is a political decision, not a medical or public health one. The people that say that you need to continue to wear a mask after get a vaccine may be medical or public health people, but they are politicians first. Yes, something is amiss. You are being lied to by the people that are supposed to protect you.

But this is a vaccine in every sense of the word. It generates an immune response in your body against the biological agent it is designed to protect against. It does it in a novel (although it has been done before) way, but the end result is the same. You can call it a biological agent, which is guess is true. But so is every other vaccine. Every vaccine uses a biological agent to generate an immune response against thay biological agent. The flu vaccine uses viral proteins to accomplish the same thing as the covid vaccine. Except the covid vaccine used your cells to make the proteins. Novel? Yes. Still a vaccine.