I'm saying I've been down the road you've been down. I've read all the books, all the testimonies (well not literally all but you get the idea) and sorry when it comes down to it most of it is definitely baloney with the rest being mysteries that have probable and mundane explanations.
I haven't brought that word into it but it is in great part a conspiracy of human nature. If you want to find aliens you won't get anywhere chasing ghosts.
You shouldn't trust anyone. That's the same thing as trust the experts, intelligence agencies, this person with an impressive resume. WE do it a little bit but the left really go overboard with it. It's not a good thing.
However, I do trust astronauts have seen things they can't explain. I see things I can't explain either. My camera picks up artefacts I can't explain all the time. That's not how these optical systems work.
I'm extremely interested in the prospect of aliens visiting us or having visited us but I also know when I'm being led on. You start to notice this when every lead stops just short. If you have the power to do that you wouldn't torture people leaving hints and clues all the time.
You don't know what you're talking about. Great, you saw something. Well you claim. It's not a remarkable claim. It could well have happened. When it comes down to it the only thing that's special is that you don't know why you saw that.
It's very attractive when such things feed your imagination but when it comes down to it you just had an unexplained sensory experience which happens, it's part of life, it's part of reality, it's part of the constraints on the human system.
The alien discussion is a very interesting one but not if you're beholden to your desire for fantasy, to grasp as something precious that feels just out of reach and your need to believe.
People have seen and experienced visual phenomena they can't explain from the dawn of time. It's only recently anyone worked out what Mars was in the sky, before that it was just a point of light not stationary like the others. There are a couple of cases I've bumped into in the bible anyone today would say that sounds like a meteorite.
Then why do we let people go to jail over witness testimony? Do you believe that no witnesses testimony should be admissable in court? What if they have a video of the crime? There's plenty of UFOs caught on camera but of course they COULD BE faked... So if someone says they got raped, they have video of it and a cop witnessed it... Is all that immediately thrown out because you personally didn't see it?... Sounds like you believe there's strange things but you're not willing to commit to anything so you can stand on the soap box and preach about how you've been through it all and to believe you?? ..... Does witness testimony matter at all? Does video evidence? How about the video evidence back from the 40s that didn't have the tech to fake it? What about the zimmora incident that left marks on the ground? Why do you think the government has studied the phenomenon for so long? Not because there's nothing there..... So in a rape or murder case does witness testimony and video evidence prove the person did it or not?
Although people lie and get things wrong what better is there? Sometimes you need to hear people out but we don't believe everything, it's a constant struggle not only in confronting the unknown but in the war for the truth. That's why we don't send people to prison for accusations. Humans are appalling when it comes to testimony.
I've seen endless cases that turn out to be true or false. You can't reliably determine that by surface indicators. I've seen cases where an entire neighbourhood testified against one person who was innocent for all kinds of reasons such as simply going along with rumour or favouring the reputation and title of another.
Some cases we can never know and these are deliberately exploited. The Assange case is like this. His word against hers. Something similar happened to Jesus. In fact humans do it to themselves all the time.
The thing is with the UFO craze is that the frequency of reports generally matches up with both the number of legitimate times people will see something odd and the amount of times people will make things up.
On multiple fronts we see things where as a whole it really doesn't add up as well being like something out of the X-Files, though there are known cases of governments and military playing silly buggers or having an interest in it as well as in some rare cases likely experimenting with things like air craft or deliberately creating UFOs to study psychology.
It's not only that things can be fake. You have nature conspiring against you. Photons and particles can do weird things sometimes that just can't easily be visually discerned and that don't match the appearance or behaviour of typical day to day visual phenomena. Those elementary particles don't give a damn if they wreck your visual processing cortex with something indecipherable.
A lot of people make presumptuous statements like that, they didn't have the tech to fake it. You can't know that. It's a silly argument. You have a forgery presenting evidence they could make forgeries but it can't be a forgery because there's no evidence they could make forgeries. It's a self defeating argument. The thing is we also have cases that were revealed to be false positives or lies. In terms of patterns and logic most of the conventional approaches to the UFO craze do not add up.
When it comes to secrets around UFOs there's likely more than one and in spite of this most cases are just trash, noise, junk information or completely useless.
When we do look at cases there are a lot that are incredulous or that turn out to be outright lies. Sometimes you can't tell this until you look at a lot and start to see patterns that are more indicative of mass human behaviour than lots of incidences. A lot of things can leave marks on the ground. It's not compelling.
Outside of that you do have real cases though people still like to embellish all of that. What you have there is something very abstract and vague. They're all had an experience they can't explain. That effect can have many causes including quite often a trick of the light, their minds playing tricks on them, accidental poisoning or intoxication and occasionally more nefarious things but that we'll probably never know in most cases. There are probably a few cases where for example someone has been drugged, kidnapped and raped with only fragments telling them something was wrong.
When you get down to it there's less scope for some of the more fantastical claims and those also raise a lot of questions. When we look at the UFO craze as it evolved it follows Science Fiction a lot and the problem is that Science Fiction isn't actually based on science or reality. It's nearly always fantasy.
Though there are aspects of reality impervious to science no other tools work either and we have to go with what works. I've seen most discussions on these topics quickly turn from trying to crack reality to a denial of reality. When discussing the unknown it's all to easy to end up completely escaping the confines of known reality in doing so.
When you do start to look at things realistically then the commonplace explanations or placeholders only raise even more questions. Though questions don't strictly dismiss a notion they're a strong indicator that you're lacking some big pieces.
There is something most people don't understand. In science there's no FTL and if you go down that road then what's the point of trying to work out what might be when your basis for what you say might be requires that anything is possible? In that case anything might be and it's pointless trying to work it out.
In reality if for example there were a cover up of aliens that raises enormous questions about a species able to reach us yet so bad at staying out of sight and needing a cover up. At a time when global authorities can't even stop wikileaks without creating a huge scene.
There are certain possibilities but how do we find out? Some things are impossible. Not all evidence is indelible. People can do things and leave no trace. Most of what has happened has been erased by the winds of time alone.
I'm saying I've been down the road you've been down. I've read all the books, all the testimonies (well not literally all but you get the idea) and sorry when it comes down to it most of it is definitely baloney with the rest being mysteries that have probable and mundane explanations.
I haven't brought that word into it but it is in great part a conspiracy of human nature. If you want to find aliens you won't get anywhere chasing ghosts.
You shouldn't trust anyone. That's the same thing as trust the experts, intelligence agencies, this person with an impressive resume. WE do it a little bit but the left really go overboard with it. It's not a good thing.
However, I do trust astronauts have seen things they can't explain. I see things I can't explain either. My camera picks up artefacts I can't explain all the time. That's not how these optical systems work.
I'm extremely interested in the prospect of aliens visiting us or having visited us but I also know when I'm being led on. You start to notice this when every lead stops just short. If you have the power to do that you wouldn't torture people leaving hints and clues all the time.
You don't know what you're talking about. Great, you saw something. Well you claim. It's not a remarkable claim. It could well have happened. When it comes down to it the only thing that's special is that you don't know why you saw that.
It's very attractive when such things feed your imagination but when it comes down to it you just had an unexplained sensory experience which happens, it's part of life, it's part of reality, it's part of the constraints on the human system.
The alien discussion is a very interesting one but not if you're beholden to your desire for fantasy, to grasp as something precious that feels just out of reach and your need to believe.
People have seen and experienced visual phenomena they can't explain from the dawn of time. It's only recently anyone worked out what Mars was in the sky, before that it was just a point of light not stationary like the others. There are a couple of cases I've bumped into in the bible anyone today would say that sounds like a meteorite.
Then why do we let people go to jail over witness testimony? Do you believe that no witnesses testimony should be admissable in court? What if they have a video of the crime? There's plenty of UFOs caught on camera but of course they COULD BE faked... So if someone says they got raped, they have video of it and a cop witnessed it... Is all that immediately thrown out because you personally didn't see it?... Sounds like you believe there's strange things but you're not willing to commit to anything so you can stand on the soap box and preach about how you've been through it all and to believe you?? ..... Does witness testimony matter at all? Does video evidence? How about the video evidence back from the 40s that didn't have the tech to fake it? What about the zimmora incident that left marks on the ground? Why do you think the government has studied the phenomenon for so long? Not because there's nothing there..... So in a rape or murder case does witness testimony and video evidence prove the person did it or not?
Although people lie and get things wrong what better is there? Sometimes you need to hear people out but we don't believe everything, it's a constant struggle not only in confronting the unknown but in the war for the truth. That's why we don't send people to prison for accusations. Humans are appalling when it comes to testimony.
I've seen endless cases that turn out to be true or false. You can't reliably determine that by surface indicators. I've seen cases where an entire neighbourhood testified against one person who was innocent for all kinds of reasons such as simply going along with rumour or favouring the reputation and title of another.
Some cases we can never know and these are deliberately exploited. The Assange case is like this. His word against hers. Something similar happened to Jesus. In fact humans do it to themselves all the time.
The thing is with the UFO craze is that the frequency of reports generally matches up with both the number of legitimate times people will see something odd and the amount of times people will make things up.
On multiple fronts we see things where as a whole it really doesn't add up as well being like something out of the X-Files, though there are known cases of governments and military playing silly buggers or having an interest in it as well as in some rare cases likely experimenting with things like air craft or deliberately creating UFOs to study psychology.
It's not only that things can be fake. You have nature conspiring against you. Photons and particles can do weird things sometimes that just can't easily be visually discerned and that don't match the appearance or behaviour of typical day to day visual phenomena. Those elementary particles don't give a damn if they wreck your visual processing cortex with something indecipherable.
A lot of people make presumptuous statements like that, they didn't have the tech to fake it. You can't know that. It's a silly argument. You have a forgery presenting evidence they could make forgeries but it can't be a forgery because there's no evidence they could make forgeries. It's a self defeating argument. The thing is we also have cases that were revealed to be false positives or lies. In terms of patterns and logic most of the conventional approaches to the UFO craze do not add up.
When it comes to secrets around UFOs there's likely more than one and in spite of this most cases are just trash, noise, junk information or completely useless.
When we do look at cases there are a lot that are incredulous or that turn out to be outright lies. Sometimes you can't tell this until you look at a lot and start to see patterns that are more indicative of mass human behaviour than lots of incidences. A lot of things can leave marks on the ground. It's not compelling.
Outside of that you do have real cases though people still like to embellish all of that. What you have there is something very abstract and vague. They're all had an experience they can't explain. That effect can have many causes including quite often a trick of the light, their minds playing tricks on them, accidental poisoning or intoxication and occasionally more nefarious things but that we'll probably never know in most cases. There are probably a few cases where for example someone has been drugged, kidnapped and raped with only fragments telling them something was wrong.
When you get down to it there's less scope for some of the more fantastical claims and those also raise a lot of questions. When we look at the UFO craze as it evolved it follows Science Fiction a lot and the problem is that Science Fiction isn't actually based on science or reality. It's nearly always fantasy.
Though there are aspects of reality impervious to science no other tools work either and we have to go with what works. I've seen most discussions on these topics quickly turn from trying to crack reality to a denial of reality. When discussing the unknown it's all to easy to end up completely escaping the confines of known reality in doing so.
When you do start to look at things realistically then the commonplace explanations or placeholders only raise even more questions. Though questions don't strictly dismiss a notion they're a strong indicator that you're lacking some big pieces.
There is something most people don't understand. In science there's no FTL and if you go down that road then what's the point of trying to work out what might be when your basis for what you say might be requires that anything is possible? In that case anything might be and it's pointless trying to work it out.
In reality if for example there were a cover up of aliens that raises enormous questions about a species able to reach us yet so bad at staying out of sight and needing a cover up. At a time when global authorities can't even stop wikileaks without creating a huge scene.
There are certain possibilities but how do we find out? Some things are impossible. Not all evidence is indelible. People can do things and leave no trace. Most of what has happened has been erased by the winds of time alone.