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RedditStillSucks 124 points ago +124 / -0

All the FBI and DHS does is try to set people up - and then take credit for it.

Its a scam that keeps them busy - but ultimately does nothing to aid security.

They should be defunded and completely re-organized.

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IncredibleMrE1 79 points ago +79 / -0

Not true - sometimes the FBI will proudly kill the family of the person they set up.

For example, see Ruby Ridge.

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FlauntandStraunt 38 points ago +38 / -0

Ruby Ridge, Waco. Any number of Shootings or Bombings where they could have stopped the attacks well before anyone actually died.

They are horrible people playing games with our lives.

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Cuzyoudbeinjail 19 points ago +19 / -0

9/11 comes to mind.

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xBigCoffinHunter 18 points ago +18 / -0

Pulse comes to mind

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FlauntandStraunt 6 points ago +6 / -0

True government did what it did when such action could have been stopped well in advance

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unashamed 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nashville bomber, numerous spree shooters, etc. There’s plenty of examples where they had someone report a dangerous individual, but the FBI did little and closed the cases. Instead, they were too busy fabricating evidence with a Russian spy, the Clintons, and Obama; or, engaging in a massive disinformation campaign to continue that narrative, coverup the Clinton emails, and obstruct any investigation into what they truly did during that era.

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BigIronBigIron 11 points ago +11 / -0

And let's not get started on Oklahoma City.

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Cuzyoudbeinjail 6 points ago +6 / -0

So like 9/11?

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sgt_richard 6 points ago +6 / -0

Waco.. c'mon let's keep this going!

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ProphetOfKek 5 points ago +5 / -0

And then Bill Barr will help the assassin get off.

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amethystzephyr [S] 18 points ago +18 / -0

Terrifying. And disgusting.

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Patriot_Lettuce 9 points ago +9 / -0

Exactly this!

At least 90-95% of the work the FBI or any federal "law enforcement" agency does is this.

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DebunkTheLeft 7 points ago +8 / -1

Yes, that's all they've ever done. Notice how not one terrorist attack has ever been prevented by the FBI? The blind sheik, all those musloid terrorists in supermax who were "caught beforehand" were subjects of entrapment. The FBI didn't prevent the 1993 & 1995 bombings, nor did they prevent 9/11, which was literally being advertised to the FBI and other agencies. All they EVER do is entrap people, fabricate evidence, go before a corrupt federal judge and get their "show conviction".

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Dogpile1 2 points ago +2 / -0

It isn’t in their interest to do anything about it. They’d be out of a job if they did. No different than the race hustlers.

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Kn33l2Dominion 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is one point I don't really agree with them on though. The world is a much smaller place and war and genocide can happen much quicker. No longer does a nation have months to muster an army while an enemy marches. To abolish all armed forces and domestic security I believe would be suicide for our country.

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wethedownvoted 3 points ago +3 / -0

Eisenhower is often quoted from his "menace of the military-industrial complex" speech.

Literally 2 sentences before that infamous quote is his ignored prelude:

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions

Mechanization revolutionized warfare. Without adequate preparation, it is impossible to defeat even a single tank -- never mind a column. If you've ever seen a tank in action outside of a video game you know their power is imperative and immense, and without weapons of war they are unstoppable.

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Kn33l2Dominion 1 point ago +1 / -0

What does being a freethinkg man have to do with successfully defending your nation from an attack made by a super power with a standing army. This is a stupid ass fucking position to take on this argument.