thing is, Walmart shouldn't have that right. If they're not being forced by an authority to mandate it in their stores, they should be banned from discriminating against those who don't wear masks
Honestly, I disagree with you there, I think they should lose business, such that they decide that they should open up and allow masks.
If you are in a state where masks are allowed, shop at stores that no longer require masks. Businesses will stop when they realize they can make money and won't be sued by the government.
I personally come from the view that government's job is to defend life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and property for all its citizens from those that wish to deprive the citizenry of that right. The government imposing masks as a criminal offense was a neglect of their duty to defend liberty (though, they might argue that it was to defend life, which means that the left is now pro-life).
I would agree with you if we didn't have places that were pretty much monopolies. Walmart ran so many places out of business that a lot of places have no other reasonable options. Also, the US taxpayers subsidize most of Walmart's workforce. I don't like the idea of oligarchs enforcing their religion upon people any more than I like the government doing it. Still gave you an upvote though, because it's nice to see someone who can disagree in a civil way.
I personally find that it is always a problem with power. No matter whom you are, you do not want to be ruled over by power. In this respect, the sanders people are right that big corporations are powerful and that they don't want to be ruled over by them, but I argue that the government is no solution and the lack of government is no solution either.
I instead am forced to reckon with the idea that power will always exist and will always be abused and there is nothing I can do about that except obtain power to defend myself from others' power. When I ask myself, wherein might I desire the power to be placed in regards to that goal, I think I would much prefer oligarchs than governmental power.
The C.S. Lewis quote goes: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals."
I find Walmart is the easiest place to not wear a mask. We still have a mask mandate, but I haven't worn one in Walmart for weeks. Nobody cares.
Also, of course you shouldn't have to bake a cake it it violates your religious beliefs or for any other reason. Let the free market take care of it. If someone is truly bigoted they will go out of business.
My local Walmart don't have any mask signage up and this is in a heavy blue area with mask mandates. They sometimes offer a mask when I go in but I just tell them no thanks.
I didn't think Walmart enforced their mask rule. I live in a very liberal suburb of Seattle and never wear a mask in Walmart. They offer one, but I just decline.
Personally I don't think anyone should be denied access to any service based on political ideology, sexual orientation or anything else, other than abusive behaviour.
People here will cry foul when Gab gets denied access to banking services because of political affiliation but will support a baker refusing to serve a transgender.
I'm agnostic, but I still support people of faith. If its against someone's faith and they can clearly communicate that, it should be their option. We live in a free country. Any person that goes out of the way to sue someone for that is just using the person as an excuse to make their political point. The Dems have been using the Judicial Branch to enact revenge against those they oppose and THAT shit needs to end.
I agree that sueing instead of just finding a baker that's happy to do the work is using the judicial branch to punish those who disagree with your opinions.
Also there's a difference between being denied access to services universally because of your political or religious beliefs and being denied service by one baker and not another.
they're being sued again but for a transgender cake -- so the baker is going to have to go through that shit again probably when the same principle will apply from his first lawsuit that he won
You do have a religion. You lie about it, because you are a hypocrite. Relying upon a cloth mask to stop viruses is as religious as it gets....hypocrite.
I'm in PA and I never wear a mask anywhere including walmart. They do not enforce it. I'd have to look it up but I think their company policy is to just leave people alone.
Because retail establishments are public accommodations and, therefore, cannot discriminate against protected classes. Heteros, whites, Christians, and...the unmasked are not protected classes.
See how that works? We all knew it wasn't about "loving who we love." It's always been about forcing perversions onto the rest of us.
I don't give a rat's fanny what people do in their own bedrooms. It's none of my business until it becomes my business, and it's becoming my business more often.
it seems to be becoming everyone business and that means its not about THAT business at all -- it is just about the DEMS needing a divisive factor to win elections -- everyone else fighting is their benefit -- THATS PERVERSE!
thing is, Walmart shouldn't have that right. If they're not being forced by an authority to mandate it in their stores, they should be banned from discriminating against those who don't wear masks
Walmart doesn't have that right. Just walk past them
I haven't worn a mask in Walmart since the fake pandemic started. Just say you can't wear one and keep going. They won't do shit.
I asked the security guard if he had a gun. He said no, I kept walking
Don’t say anything. Completely ignore them.
Honestly, I disagree with you there, I think they should lose business, such that they decide that they should open up and allow masks.
If you are in a state where masks are allowed, shop at stores that no longer require masks. Businesses will stop when they realize they can make money and won't be sued by the government.
I personally come from the view that government's job is to defend life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and property for all its citizens from those that wish to deprive the citizenry of that right. The government imposing masks as a criminal offense was a neglect of their duty to defend liberty (though, they might argue that it was to defend life, which means that the left is now pro-life).
I would agree with you if we didn't have places that were pretty much monopolies. Walmart ran so many places out of business that a lot of places have no other reasonable options. Also, the US taxpayers subsidize most of Walmart's workforce. I don't like the idea of oligarchs enforcing their religion upon people any more than I like the government doing it. Still gave you an upvote though, because it's nice to see someone who can disagree in a civil way.
I personally find that it is always a problem with power. No matter whom you are, you do not want to be ruled over by power. In this respect, the sanders people are right that big corporations are powerful and that they don't want to be ruled over by them, but I argue that the government is no solution and the lack of government is no solution either.
I instead am forced to reckon with the idea that power will always exist and will always be abused and there is nothing I can do about that except obtain power to defend myself from others' power. When I ask myself, wherein might I desire the power to be placed in regards to that goal, I think I would much prefer oligarchs than governmental power.
The C.S. Lewis quote goes: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals."
I agree!
^^THIS. (sustainable_saltmine, NOT HanginChad)
Although I have to say, neither my husband nor I wear a mask in their stores. They're more tolerant than most, at least around here.
Should I have the right to ask someone to do that or to take off their shoes when they come into my house?
I find Walmart is the easiest place to not wear a mask. We still have a mask mandate, but I haven't worn one in Walmart for weeks. Nobody cares.
Also, of course you shouldn't have to bake a cake it it violates your religious beliefs or for any other reason. Let the free market take care of it. If someone is truly bigoted they will go out of business.
My local Walmart don't have any mask signage up and this is in a heavy blue area with mask mandates. They sometimes offer a mask when I go in but I just tell them no thanks.
I agree -- if someone doesn't want to make you a cake, find someone who will lol
Learn these words "I have a medical condition" "No you may not know what it is that is a violation of my right to privacy."
Or....
Don't shop at cucked stores.
The Wal-Mart here in my town didn't say shit to me for not wearing a mask.
I didn't think Walmart enforced their mask rule. I live in a very liberal suburb of Seattle and never wear a mask in Walmart. They offer one, but I just decline.
I think Twitter is a better analogy...
I don't ever really think about Twitter lol
If its gay dudes they might like it
nasty
Oligarchs are just as powerful as the government in this country.
exactly -- but our leaders are cucks
Bakery guy has an even stronger case than that.
Walmart is trying to make their customers do things.
Baker is just not doing something he doesn't want to do.
The proper analogy would be the opposite, if masks were mandated and Walmart told their customers they didn't have to.
good point
Makes no sense how they have to bake a cake, yet Paypal, BOA, Visa can deny services to conservatives. Seems like same principal to me.
it is -- same principle but unfair application.
Personally I don't think anyone should be denied access to any service based on political ideology, sexual orientation or anything else, other than abusive behaviour.
People here will cry foul when Gab gets denied access to banking services because of political affiliation but will support a baker refusing to serve a transgender.
I'm agnostic, but I still support people of faith. If its against someone's faith and they can clearly communicate that, it should be their option. We live in a free country. Any person that goes out of the way to sue someone for that is just using the person as an excuse to make their political point. The Dems have been using the Judicial Branch to enact revenge against those they oppose and THAT shit needs to end.
I agree that sueing instead of just finding a baker that's happy to do the work is using the judicial branch to punish those who disagree with your opinions.
Also there's a difference between being denied access to services universally because of your political or religious beliefs and being denied service by one baker and not another.
Fundamentally I think we agree.
I do believe we agree -- reasonable people can do that lol
baker case went in favor of the baker, so i don't know what you're babbling about
they're being sued again but for a transgender cake -- so the baker is going to have to go through that shit again probably when the same principle will apply from his first lawsuit that he won
first step is to stop living in a cucked ass state
LOL thats most of them!
sure does seem that way, lately
Our resident Mask Karen strikes again!
our resident "fuck your rights as a business" commie has joined the fight!
Hahaha. You are such angry, little hypocrite.
you're an ignorant retard that doesn't know the definitions of words you try to use
Keep trying to spread your religion while you denigrate Christians, hypocrite.
i don't have a religion
once again you have no idea the meaning of the words you use
retard
You do have a religion. You lie about it, because you are a hypocrite. Relying upon a cloth mask to stop viruses is as religious as it gets....hypocrite.
I'm in PA and I never wear a mask anywhere including walmart. They do not enforce it. I'd have to look it up but I think their company policy is to just leave people alone.
Pay close attention to the "gay cake" appeals occurring right now. If the law comes down against private businesses, this needs to be our next move.
If the law goes against the Baker, it goes against COPRORATE -- Who will pay off the Dems then?
Bold of you to assume the same laws that apply to small businesses apply to large corporations.
yeah, realizing they don't. Not bold of me, naïve of me to think it should be fair.
Wanting the world to be better isn't naivety, it's hope.
I hope lol
Lol, I ain't wearing a mask in walmart. Compliance is only about 30% where I live.
https://patriots.win/p/12hkvnxV6l/no-shoes-no-shirt-no-mask-no-ser/
Because retail establishments are public accommodations and, therefore, cannot discriminate against protected classes. Heteros, whites, Christians, and...the unmasked are not protected classes.
See how that works? We all knew it wasn't about "loving who we love." It's always been about forcing perversions onto the rest of us.
I don't give a rat's fanny what people do in their own bedrooms. It's none of my business until it becomes my business, and it's becoming my business more often.
it seems to be becoming everyone business and that means its not about THAT business at all -- it is just about the DEMS needing a divisive factor to win elections -- everyone else fighting is their benefit -- THATS PERVERSE!
this is very true, and why that bullshit should have never happened to that baker.
it is annoying now to see so many places with the "no shoes, no shirt, no mask- no service" signs. But, they are a private business and can do that.
Agreed, but it would indeed be a major fight to make it stop. It is like them telling you - you have to wear a hat!!
Not one MSM outlet talked about the CDC finding that these masks people are wearing are useless, and N95/surgical masks are only 2% effective.
that the cloth masks everyone is wearing do absolutely nothing to protect against a virus, and the N95/surgical masks are only 2% effective.
The report is on their website. it is from ~2 weeks ago.
A better question is why are you still shopping at Walmart? 🤔