There is a difference between white nationalists and white supremacists. White nationalists are white people who love their country. People always conflate the two but they are very different.
It remains to be seen if a diverse nation state like the US can survive on said diversity. That's never happened before. So far, it appears to be more politically chaotic than ever - and diversity is driving the chaos. So I have my doubt about our survivability.
I'm seeing a deep rift opening up among all minority groups and whites in the US. I see it at the local county level here with my county judge and his Tweets - the bias calling out "white violence" and ignoring everything else. He's not white.
You can call it white nationalism, but in reality, whites built and ran this society as a majority for 200 years. Would a majority of Chinese be called Chinese Supremacy or Chinese Nationalism? A mojority of Turks, Indians, or Jews? We set the rules based upon values familiar to us. That's not nationalism. That's called running a country. And many of us see the the staggering failure of diversity, so much so that going back to a more stable atmosphere is extremely palatable to many.
It takes two to tango. The left constantly divides, and they're winning.
Avoiding reality is getting us nowhere. HUMANITY IS TRIBAL BY INSTINCT.
We pretend to ignore this, or think it can be word wizarded around, but that thinking is no better than the left thinking they can change someone's sex.
It's avoidance of reality. Are there exceptions? Sure. But the broad numbers tell the real game.
Interesting point. In fact we did that with African American slaves who adopted the white way of life under emancipation. Besides Jim Crow and the thorny progress of integration, things were going largely ok. Social change takes time. Then the 1960's happened. MLK was shot dead. Someone or some party did not like the advances black people were making adopting capitalism, christianity, and western ideals.
They're not looking to kill or enslave anyone, theyre not racist or evil. They want to live with their own and preserve their culture as opposed to modern America which doesn't even have a culture anymore due to being overrun with conflicting cultures and religions which have made American culture androgynous.
Stop slandering things you don't appear to understand with leftist words.
The problem with white nationalists wanting to keep the country white is that there are a whole bunch of non-white people who have just as much claim to America as they do. The white nationalists may bemoan that this is unfortunate, and even if they are right, it doesn't matter at some point - the country is what it is, and we must make the best of the diversity that already exists. Turner Diaries fantasies are harmful, as is filling up a MAGA forum with scientific racism - even ignoring whether such things include substantial truth or not. As an illustration, it may be true that a girl is ugly, but her birthday party is neither the place nor the time to proclaim such truth. Similarly, a MAGA rally such as this website has no use whatsoever for white supremacism or white nationalism (whites who are nationalists are fine, though, as are all other colors of American nationalists who value Constitutional American freedoms and values).
Unfortunately for you, you don't get to tell people what they can or cant believe or tell them that they arent MAGA supporters because they dont share your opinions on things.
Nor do you get to dictate the opinions of the people you disagree with.
Not keep it white but protect it and put it first. Trump has called himself a nationalist, and he happens to be white. America First. Nationalism not Globalism.
Long response but sounds like you need to hear it and will be interesting.
Would you tell someone from China their country is too asian? What do you think their response would be? They aren't diverse enough and need to get 100million or so africans in there to be inclusive and diverse. They'd laugh in your fucking face and tell you their country was an asian country, founded by asians with asian culture and they want to keep it that way.
What's wrong with wanting to keep your country, values, and culture? One that has been the most successful in the history of the world by the way. A civilization that has uplifted everyone in the country and world at large European based and what you would call "white"?
It works both ways, you've just been brainwashed -at the very least for years in school. Year by year everyday you hear them push their agenda until it simply becomes 'the truth' in your young mind. By the way, we all have been through the conditioning. I grew up hearing diversity is our strength and believing it until I got out into the real world and started learning from actual experience. Homogenous populations tend to be more trusting, comfortable to live in and relax your guard, and usually more prosperous and happy. There's nothing wrong with admitting the truth.
All that being said, I don't treat people differently simply because of their race, and if others wish to join our movement because they want to live in and fight for our culture, which they obviously do as others always want to immigrate or move to "white" areas, than I welcome their support.
There is a difference between white nationalists and white supremacists. White nationalists are white people who love their country. People always conflate the two but they are very different.
Typically white nationalists does not mean nationalists who happen to be white, it means nationalists who want to keep their country white.
It remains to be seen if a diverse nation state like the US can survive on said diversity. That's never happened before. So far, it appears to be more politically chaotic than ever - and diversity is driving the chaos. So I have my doubt about our survivability.
I'm seeing a deep rift opening up among all minority groups and whites in the US. I see it at the local county level here with my county judge and his Tweets - the bias calling out "white violence" and ignoring everything else. He's not white.
You can call it white nationalism, but in reality, whites built and ran this society as a majority for 200 years. Would a majority of Chinese be called Chinese Supremacy or Chinese Nationalism? A mojority of Turks, Indians, or Jews? We set the rules based upon values familiar to us. That's not nationalism. That's called running a country. And many of us see the the staggering failure of diversity, so much so that going back to a more stable atmosphere is extremely palatable to many.
Exactly
We need to articulate and not compromise the values of Western Civilization, but without making it about skin color. It's that simple.
It takes two to tango. The left constantly divides, and they're winning.
Avoiding reality is getting us nowhere. HUMANITY IS TRIBAL BY INSTINCT.
We pretend to ignore this, or think it can be word wizarded around, but that thinking is no better than the left thinking they can change someone's sex.
It's avoidance of reality. Are there exceptions? Sure. But the broad numbers tell the real game.
Western civilization was not made or maintained for hundreds of years by a rainbow of ethnicities
Interesting point. In fact we did that with African American slaves who adopted the white way of life under emancipation. Besides Jim Crow and the thorny progress of integration, things were going largely ok. Social change takes time. Then the 1960's happened. MLK was shot dead. Someone or some party did not like the advances black people were making adopting capitalism, christianity, and western ideals.
There's nothing wrong with that.
They're not looking to kill or enslave anyone, theyre not racist or evil. They want to live with their own and preserve their culture as opposed to modern America which doesn't even have a culture anymore due to being overrun with conflicting cultures and religions which have made American culture androgynous.
Stop slandering things you don't appear to understand with leftist words.
stay white if you want to its more about culture imo
Culture is a downtrend from race, and if you think America has a unified culture right now you're lying to yourself.
Stay white? Lol... its there a trans- race alternative now? Can I identify as non- white? Or do I need a surgery?
If so, can the military pay for it? 😆
The problem with white nationalists wanting to keep the country white is that there are a whole bunch of non-white people who have just as much claim to America as they do. The white nationalists may bemoan that this is unfortunate, and even if they are right, it doesn't matter at some point - the country is what it is, and we must make the best of the diversity that already exists. Turner Diaries fantasies are harmful, as is filling up a MAGA forum with scientific racism - even ignoring whether such things include substantial truth or not. As an illustration, it may be true that a girl is ugly, but her birthday party is neither the place nor the time to proclaim such truth. Similarly, a MAGA rally such as this website has no use whatsoever for white supremacism or white nationalism (whites who are nationalists are fine, though, as are all other colors of American nationalists who value Constitutional American freedoms and values).
Unfortunately for you, you don't get to tell people what they can or cant believe or tell them that they arent MAGA supporters because they dont share your opinions on things.
Nor do you get to dictate the opinions of the people you disagree with.
Not keep it white but protect it and put it first. Trump has called himself a nationalist, and he happens to be white. America First. Nationalism not Globalism.
Orange.
Yep, and I agree with all this.
Long response but sounds like you need to hear it and will be interesting.
Would you tell someone from China their country is too asian? What do you think their response would be? They aren't diverse enough and need to get 100million or so africans in there to be inclusive and diverse. They'd laugh in your fucking face and tell you their country was an asian country, founded by asians with asian culture and they want to keep it that way.
What's wrong with wanting to keep your country, values, and culture? One that has been the most successful in the history of the world by the way. A civilization that has uplifted everyone in the country and world at large European based and what you would call "white"?
It works both ways, you've just been brainwashed -at the very least for years in school. Year by year everyday you hear them push their agenda until it simply becomes 'the truth' in your young mind. By the way, we all have been through the conditioning. I grew up hearing diversity is our strength and believing it until I got out into the real world and started learning from actual experience. Homogenous populations tend to be more trusting, comfortable to live in and relax your guard, and usually more prosperous and happy. There's nothing wrong with admitting the truth.
All that being said, I don't treat people differently simply because of their race, and if others wish to join our movement because they want to live in and fight for our culture, which they obviously do as others always want to immigrate or move to "white" areas, than I welcome their support.
I can't find anything to disagree with in your post. Cheers, dude.
Wow, I'm pretty impressed with your realness; not the response I expected. You sound like a reasonable person. Cheers.