Until there is a standoff or two that scares the holy shit out of police/atf,whoever , this will be pushed further and further. Also, do you trust that everyone knocking on your door that looks like a cop, is one? Just asking.
Lol you think the ATF/FBI gave two fucks about Waco or Ruby Ridge?? The FBI took pictures with the burnt corpses of children to hang in their offices like a fucking war trophy.
Nope, I don't think that bothered them at all. My point remains, until the cost is so high or politically ugly enough, they will not flinch. We have gone past relying on legal constraints, individual morals or checks from competing departments, our government IS tyranical AND does not represent either the people or the constitutional foundations our country is built on.
They peed down their leg with the Bundy thing. This is really what needs to happen more, which is simple. People banding together and not backing down for any reason.
You're just making shit up now. There's LITERALLY no evidence that they took the pictures because "there were charred remains and children".
We don't need to lie to make our points here. The FBI sucks, this we know. But you add stupid shit like this doesn't do anyone a service, other than to get fake internet points from idiots that believe you at face value.
Downvote me all you like, your opinion is less than worthless to me if you're just going to blatantly lie.
Even the site the guy linked has ONE picture of a guy standing In front of some rubble, not posing next to corpses... like I replied to them, the FBI sucks the fastest of dicks, but Lying and linking a site that reads like GrestAwakening fanfiction isn't the way to prove their point.
People on here act like the people of Ruby Ridge and Waco were saints because their bad guys are who we see as bad guys today...so enemies of our enemies are our heros I guess? Both groups were nutty, Waco 1000x more so than Ruby Ridge, everything about the situations sucked but Waco should not be memorialized like they were heroic. The other guys were apocalyptic too but I could at least sympathize with them somewhat
If they go through with this, warnings are going to have to be issued to the police departments, telling them that they could get killed, and that they should think twice before blatantly violating the Constitution like that.
Many local police want no part of it, either due to constitutionality or the very real fear of what could happen. We won't be sure of who our allies are untill the shtf. I am actually more concerned they will do a slow burn on the agenda till the next generation doesn't realize what is being taken.
By letting police operate without a warrant, the community caretaking exception is “designed to give police elbow room to take appropriate action,” the court added.
Unity is a beast in itself. If a wolf sees two little boys playing in the woods on one side, and a big strong man on the other, he will go to the one who stands alone.
No it's not. This has been a scenario they've been studying for 100 years. There are literally millions of documents regarding exactly this. I'd bet my house that it's US that are underestimating what length they are prepared to go to. There are several really good documents that lay out exactly what they are (hypothetically) preparing for us. The boog is expected and WILL turn into a civil war. It gives them reason to bring in the UN. Both of these steps are of little importance as China and/or Russia will invade so fast your head will spin.
No, it's not the feds that are underestimating. It's us that won't be able to fathom the depth of atrocious disregard they are prepared to go to.
Pandering. Biden admin knows supreme court won’t do this but they want to make the public believe they’re doing something when in reality they’re doing nothing.
For anyone afraid of cops busting in and taking guns from folks, that may catch some off guard at first. Then once news goes out, the millions of law abiding gun owners will simply get creative hiding their guns and “losing them in boating accidents”. Or, telling whoever is sent out to go fuck themselves and see if they want the Rittenhouse special (self defense).
Glad you are so certain. I would have agreed with you, but now? We just watched an election get stolen, flat-out stolen, and the SC decided it wasn't worth their time.
Let’s say the SC goes full cuck. Absolutely could see it happening. How does the govt go about taking guns away from citizens? They may be able to stop a lot of gun sales via bullshit laws but the existing ones out there are not going away. Maybe some people will be scared and volunteer their guns to comply. I would assume majority would tell the govt they “lost it” or “a friend ran it over with their truck by accident while we were out hunting”.
So let’s say govt. goes even more tyrannical than they currently are. Okay show me the cops that are going to go into homes in Texas or Florida to go grab the guns. Sure, many police are drunk on power and may try, but there is no way some fella isn’t going to punish them for trespassing. And even with a warrant, okay, just hide the guns under the floorboards.
We also have to take into account the enormous amount of tax revenue the gun industry produces. Lefties don’t want their theft to get short changed. I sincerely doubt they will do more than pander, or at worst throw out a POTATUS EO that will get bitch slapped in court.
This. People always close their eyes and imagine a Hollywood style stand off in front of some suburban house where there's dozens of cops outside with a megaphone. Well if they're all in front of your house, there's only what- another dozen left from the whole precinct? Who's in front of my house? Who's down the block? Who's on the next block, and the next? They don't have the manpower even if they had the national guard and military. There's more of us, more prepared than they'll ever have. The trick is to not let it get down to one stand off at a time. See; Waco.
Exactly, if we are to succeed in this we have to be able to organize, communicate and strategize effectively. People always say "our side wins civil war no matter what because we own the guns" but having the firearms alone isn't enough. Like you said-- see Waco.
I'm not saying I don't believe you but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people on here saying they would die before surrendering their guns haven't really thought it through. Would you be willing to look the cops in the eyes, knowing they have a family like you do, and pull the trigger? Knowing that everybody involved will lose everything? You would be smeared and used as a political tool by the left, as an example of the ultimate violent white male domestic terrorist, and all "conservatives" would instantly turn against you. Trump would condemn you. You would eventually be forgotten as another lunatic, and worst of all, they would still walk away with your guns after the smoke had cleared.
I'm sure there's some people who are willing to, but almost all of us wouldn't really go through with it.
I'm just saying that most people haven't actually thought about the totality of taking the lives of a bunch of people and the consequences for everybody involved, including your family. Your family would be without you either by death or prison, so there's no way to win (in a lone-fighter scenario).
How many police officers are there in the U.S.? In 2019, there were 697,195 full-time law enforcement officers employed in the United States. Let's say 1/3rd carry out the orders - that's 232,398 cops coming for your guns
VS.
The Small Arms Survey stated that U.S. civilians alone account for 393 million (about 46 percent) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms.[2] This amounts to "120.5 firearms for every 100 residents."[2]
So pack a lunch
My guns are what I use to protect my family. If I can't protect my family, I might as well be as dead as they will to an illegal firearm owner. Come and take 'em.
Let us also not forget that David Koresh and his people made the DEA and CIA retreat from their property. That's why they brought in the military. When people work together, the alphabet soup stands no chance.
I hope every single cop that does that takes a round to the face. You swore an oath to the constitution. If you break that oath you have lost the ‘power’ you have and are now just a tyrant. Tyrants deserve death. To any cops on here you don’t have very many friends left. Do not fuck up or defunding will be the least of your worries.
LOL, of course they haven't forgotten. Those are feathers in their war headdress. They're still jacking it thinking about those events with a constant hardon. Why would this be a deterrent? They won. They'll be using those incidents as training exercises until the end of time. Now they've got new toys light years advanced that they are chomping at the bit to use.
I was around and it surely was a shitshow! Then for SNL to have Janet Reno come on to do a jig was just to rub it in everyone's face. Fuck everyone involved including Lorne Michaels!
Do you honestly think they give the slightest fuck about optics? It's all about power. They basically rubbed our faces in their shit both of those times. They shove our faces in shit every frigging day!
they're going to try but some pissed off Afghanistan vet who's lost everything due to give shenanigans is going to put 500 lbs of HME under his driveway. calling it now.
As a potential Juror on what is inevitable: any person or state agent, killing any federal representative entering a home w/o a warrant, I will acquit.
It’s not for SCOTUS to decide
It’s for the Biden-Harris Executive Orders R Us to decide!
No, it's for us to decide. When they knock, shoor 'em.
They don't plan on knocking.
Fortunate Son will be playing
Oh yes
LOUDLY!
Slayer - Raining Blood
Suicide Note Pt. II by Pantera or... Shepherd me, O God
The Trooper by Maiden, really gets the heart pumpin.
Down with the sickness for me
Boh wah ah ah ah!
Crazy Train for me
My family escaped communism once already.
Let the bodies hit the floor anyone?
Nah.
Metallica, Phantom Lord.
Try "Welcome To The Jungle"
Shoot to thrill—AC/DC
Until there is a standoff or two that scares the holy shit out of police/atf,whoever , this will be pushed further and further. Also, do you trust that everyone knocking on your door that looks like a cop, is one? Just asking.
Lol you think the ATF/FBI gave two fucks about Waco or Ruby Ridge?? The FBI took pictures with the burnt corpses of children to hang in their offices like a fucking war trophy.
Nope, I don't think that bothered them at all. My point remains, until the cost is so high or politically ugly enough, they will not flinch. We have gone past relying on legal constraints, individual morals or checks from competing departments, our government IS tyranical AND does not represent either the people or the constitutional foundations our country is built on.
They peed down their leg with the Bundy thing. This is really what needs to happen more, which is simple. People banding together and not backing down for any reason.
Yeah... gonna need a source on this.
Whenever I've heard that claim, this picture was used.
https://i.redd.it/ebaq9qpe9r321.jpg
That's just one of maybe ten, with different people, posing here or a very similar area. The ones I've seen point out exactly where the skeletons are.
https://fbi-federalbureauofinvestigation.com/remember-the-fbi-is-responsible-for-the-deaths-of-26-children-at-the-branch-davidian-compound-near-waco-texas
On the site you linked, there's a SINGLE picture of a guy in front of rubble. He's not "posing" with the dead bodies of children".
You're really reaching if you think this is hanging in his office.
The FBI sucks the fattest of commie dicks, but lying doesn't help anything.
Several people posed at this location because of the charred remains in the rubble. Including children.
You're just making shit up now. There's LITERALLY no evidence that they took the pictures because "there were charred remains and children".
We don't need to lie to make our points here. The FBI sucks, this we know. But you add stupid shit like this doesn't do anyone a service, other than to get fake internet points from idiots that believe you at face value.
Downvote me all you like, your opinion is less than worthless to me if you're just going to blatantly lie.
Lol you think I’m lying because you’ve never been informed out these photos. This is hilarious. Educate yourself.
No sources here, only downvotes for questioning lol
Even the site the guy linked has ONE picture of a guy standing In front of some rubble, not posing next to corpses... like I replied to them, the FBI sucks the fastest of dicks, but Lying and linking a site that reads like GrestAwakening fanfiction isn't the way to prove their point.
People on here act like the people of Ruby Ridge and Waco were saints because their bad guys are who we see as bad guys today...so enemies of our enemies are our heros I guess? Both groups were nutty, Waco 1000x more so than Ruby Ridge, everything about the situations sucked but Waco should not be memorialized like they were heroic. The other guys were apocalyptic too but I could at least sympathize with them somewhat
If they go through with this, warnings are going to have to be issued to the police departments, telling them that they could get killed, and that they should think twice before blatantly violating the Constitution like that.
Many local police want no part of it, either due to constitutionality or the very real fear of what could happen. We won't be sure of who our allies are untill the shtf. I am actually more concerned they will do a slow burn on the agenda till the next generation doesn't realize what is being taken.
make your younglings study rifle
And guerilla warfare, how to make IED's, how to cook wild game, live in the woods, etc...
.308 hunting rifle > AR15 in this respect.
thia is the way
Our police department I'm sure has no problem violating the constitution. The local sheriffs, however, are pretty based.
Standoff? How far back will they be standing?
What? That can't be real.
It’s real
Sounds like British colonial rule! No taxation without representation!
https://web.archive.org/web/20210323234706/https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2021/03/23/biden-administration-urges-supreme-court-to-let-cops-enter-homes-and-seize-guns-without-a-warrant/amp/
I really thought this was a shit post. Thank you!
All eyes on blue. Help your neighbor and don’t miss
I don't own a gun. I will interfere with this if it goes down near me.
Buy a gun
None of us own guns. Some of us did, but they were stolen in a burglary.
ALRIGHT BOYS GET READY TO BOOG
Warrant or no warrant this is a fight the feds are underestimating.
No it's not. This has been a scenario they've been studying for 100 years. There are literally millions of documents regarding exactly this. I'd bet my house that it's US that are underestimating what length they are prepared to go to. There are several really good documents that lay out exactly what they are (hypothetically) preparing for us. The boog is expected and WILL turn into a civil war. It gives them reason to bring in the UN. Both of these steps are of little importance as China and/or Russia will invade so fast your head will spin.
No, it's not the feds that are underestimating. It's us that won't be able to fathom the depth of atrocious disregard they are prepared to go to.
Blue helmets make good flowerpots.
They make great perimeter walls filled with sand, cement or what have you.
I'm sure Roberts would rubber stamp that.
Why would you doubt it?
If the supreme court actually goes through with this, we'll know with absolute certainty that Trump had nothing but traitors to pick from.
Holy shit. That would turn ugly fast!
Oof!
There's going to be a lot of dead cops then
That sounds really hazardous for everyone involved.
Pandering. Biden admin knows supreme court won’t do this but they want to make the public believe they’re doing something when in reality they’re doing nothing.
For anyone afraid of cops busting in and taking guns from folks, that may catch some off guard at first. Then once news goes out, the millions of law abiding gun owners will simply get creative hiding their guns and “losing them in boating accidents”. Or, telling whoever is sent out to go fuck themselves and see if they want the Rittenhouse special (self defense).
Glad you are so certain. I would have agreed with you, but now? We just watched an election get stolen, flat-out stolen, and the SC decided it wasn't worth their time.
Let’s say the SC goes full cuck. Absolutely could see it happening. How does the govt go about taking guns away from citizens? They may be able to stop a lot of gun sales via bullshit laws but the existing ones out there are not going away. Maybe some people will be scared and volunteer their guns to comply. I would assume majority would tell the govt they “lost it” or “a friend ran it over with their truck by accident while we were out hunting”.
So let’s say govt. goes even more tyrannical than they currently are. Okay show me the cops that are going to go into homes in Texas or Florida to go grab the guns. Sure, many police are drunk on power and may try, but there is no way some fella isn’t going to punish them for trespassing. And even with a warrant, okay, just hide the guns under the floorboards.
We also have to take into account the enormous amount of tax revenue the gun industry produces. Lefties don’t want their theft to get short changed. I sincerely doubt they will do more than pander, or at worst throw out a POTATUS EO that will get bitch slapped in court.
Good fucking luck
There aren’t enough cops.
This. People always close their eyes and imagine a Hollywood style stand off in front of some suburban house where there's dozens of cops outside with a megaphone. Well if they're all in front of your house, there's only what- another dozen left from the whole precinct? Who's in front of my house? Who's down the block? Who's on the next block, and the next? They don't have the manpower even if they had the national guard and military. There's more of us, more prepared than they'll ever have. The trick is to not let it get down to one stand off at a time. See; Waco.
Exactly, if we are to succeed in this we have to be able to organize, communicate and strategize effectively. People always say "our side wins civil war no matter what because we own the guns" but having the firearms alone isn't enough. Like you said-- see Waco.
ugly ugly ugly
What could possibly go wrong?????????????????
Real Patriots will shoot them down. Fake Patriots will surrender their guns.
I rather die fighting.
I'm not saying I don't believe you but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people on here saying they would die before surrendering their guns haven't really thought it through. Would you be willing to look the cops in the eyes, knowing they have a family like you do, and pull the trigger? Knowing that everybody involved will lose everything? You would be smeared and used as a political tool by the left, as an example of the ultimate violent white male domestic terrorist, and all "conservatives" would instantly turn against you. Trump would condemn you. You would eventually be forgotten as another lunatic, and worst of all, they would still walk away with your guns after the smoke had cleared.
I'm sure there's some people who are willing to, but almost all of us wouldn't really go through with it.
Don't fall into this psychological trap, though. The police are barging into YOUR home where YOUR family is, and you are worried about their families?
I'm just saying that most people haven't actually thought about the totality of taking the lives of a bunch of people and the consequences for everybody involved, including your family. Your family would be without you either by death or prison, so there's no way to win (in a lone-fighter scenario).
Gonna run out of cops. Js
If this goes down. Quickly get into groups capable of responding to the Unconstitutional threats.
Shredding THE Constitution, when will their treason ever be held accountable?
When we hold them accountable.
How many police officers are there in the U.S.? In 2019, there were 697,195 full-time law enforcement officers employed in the United States. Let's say 1/3rd carry out the orders - that's 232,398 cops coming for your guns VS.
The Small Arms Survey stated that U.S. civilians alone account for 393 million (about 46 percent) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms.[2] This amounts to "120.5 firearms for every 100 residents."[2]
So pack a lunch
You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers
So how many cops have to be rewarded with a bullet in the fucking face before they refuse to follow these coming orders?
My guns are what I use to protect my family. If I can't protect my family, I might as well be as dead as they will to an illegal firearm owner. Come and take 'em.
WTF!?
Good luck.
Let us also not forget that David Koresh and his people made the DEA and CIA retreat from their property. That's why they brought in the military. When people work together, the alphabet soup stands no chance.
I hope every single cop that does that takes a round to the face. You swore an oath to the constitution. If you break that oath you have lost the ‘power’ you have and are now just a tyrant. Tyrants deserve death. To any cops on here you don’t have very many friends left. Do not fuck up or defunding will be the least of your worries.
Is there a know source for this claim??
Even Biden admin can't be this stupid.
No way they forgot Ruby Ridge and Waco already
LOL, of course they haven't forgotten. Those are feathers in their war headdress. They're still jacking it thinking about those events with a constant hardon. Why would this be a deterrent? They won. They'll be using those incidents as training exercises until the end of time. Now they've got new toys light years advanced that they are chomping at the bit to use.
But publicly the shit show FBI and ATF had to deal with was insane.
Sorry, I wasn't around during those times.
I was around and it surely was a shitshow! Then for SNL to have Janet Reno come on to do a jig was just to rub it in everyone's face. Fuck everyone involved including Lorne Michaels!
Yes, so why would fbi or atf want that shitshow again.
With internet and social media it will be all around the world in a matter of minutes.
ATF will take a diff route.
Do you honestly think they give the slightest fuck about optics? It's all about power. They basically rubbed our faces in their shit both of those times. They shove our faces in shit every frigging day!
Life insurance rates for LEOs just went way up.
I suppose they want more bloodshed then.
Come get them muddafuckas!
The impending civil war will be brutal and bloody
they're going to try but some pissed off Afghanistan vet who's lost everything due to give shenanigans is going to put 500 lbs of HME under his driveway. calling it now.
I lost mine while helping him look for his.
Hidden guns are not useful.
WHO'S homes? WHO'S guns?
FAFO. Who's first glow fags?
Hell yeah! Target practice! Make it so the scrotums come get it themselves!
Heil Biden!
It’s happening.
As a potential Juror on what is inevitable: any person or state agent, killing any federal representative entering a home w/o a warrant, I will acquit.
Gonna need more cops
They're gonna need a spatula.
Send bachelors.