Don't be a crybaby. Many of us are doing stuff. We just aren't broadcasting it because being on the radar is dangerous. Get with people in your area. If you have a cell of people you can vet and trust, the organization will come when needed. The trust part is key. Get training.
Hey it's awesome that you're talking with and organizing with people in your community but how do you expect a civil war or anything close to it to even happen? It's not like there's going to be waves of antifa running up on our houses or democrats marching up to take our possessions. Training and being prepared is great but I don't know what people honestly think is going to happen. If FBI agents come to your door to take your guns and you fire on them, you're just going to be killed and villified.
Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself. Think about what your red line is. The point when you will fight back. Is it when they take your weapons? When they exile you from banking? When they restrict your ability to travel? When they decide your kids are trans and you either have to go along with the "transition" or be jailed and your kids put in institutional care?
Where is the red line? All the situations I mentioned are either happening now or being proposed with significant backing,
Or are you going to be the cuckservative that keeps drawing lines in the sand, and when the left steps over, you just complain and howl and draw another line?
You think the place to fight is against the FBI at your doorstep? As fucking if.
I don't know exactly where my line is. It's incredibly complicated. I have people that I love who depend on me. I have family spread out over the country. I have a community.
Where's the red line for you? What will the "fight" look like for you? Is it of a political and social nature or strictly tactical?
Personal red line is an opsec type of thing, so forgive the evasiveness. I'm not convinced that this site isn't a honeypot. Point is that I have one. If I have one, then I should be able to make good on it. That's where local groups, trained, and squared away comes in.
Either you have a line or not. If you have one, how are you going to act on it? If you aren't, well, it's never going to be safe or convenient to resist. Until maybe you have nothing to lose, in which case it's probably too late.
Maybe your line needs to be in consultation with your people, provided they themselves are relatively squared away.
What the fight will look like will be dynamic. Cold war or hot war? Both alternating? What's the role? I don't get to decide. Except, sometimes maybe I do. It depends.
Doesn't change the need to be capable. If I'm not capable, then none of this shit is worth talking about because I'll have no choice but to be butt fucked.
edit: and look man I don't mean to say you need to be a guerrilla fighter. Even in open guerrilla war, only a small percentage of the resistance were actual trigger pullers, the vast majority provided support. Safe houses, food, supplies, medical, intelligence, clothing, transportation, propaganda, smuggling, sabotage, etc., etc., are the back bone. However, the way you build that support network is local with folks you can trust. And you can trust them because you are all for the same area and you can vet him and his people. It's easy to honeypot some rubes over the internet or with some new-to-town'er. Very hard to do it pretending to be a guy who grew up in the area, whose parents lived there also, who can be found in old copies of yearbooks, whose prom date is a bartender at the local watering hole, etc. Trust networks are paramount. Can't be effective without them.
Sure but the U.S. as well as the world was vastly different back then. There's not going to be any giant blocks of Union and Confederate armies meeting at river crossings to discharge their rifles under a unified banner.
Don't be a crybaby. Many of us are doing stuff. We just aren't broadcasting it because being on the radar is dangerous. Get with people in your area. If you have a cell of people you can vet and trust, the organization will come when needed. The trust part is key. Get training.
Six solid men can do a hell of alot.
Hey it's awesome that you're talking with and organizing with people in your community but how do you expect a civil war or anything close to it to even happen? It's not like there's going to be waves of antifa running up on our houses or democrats marching up to take our possessions. Training and being prepared is great but I don't know what people honestly think is going to happen. If FBI agents come to your door to take your guns and you fire on them, you're just going to be killed and villified.
Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself. Think about what your red line is. The point when you will fight back. Is it when they take your weapons? When they exile you from banking? When they restrict your ability to travel? When they decide your kids are trans and you either have to go along with the "transition" or be jailed and your kids put in institutional care?
Where is the red line? All the situations I mentioned are either happening now or being proposed with significant backing,
Or are you going to be the cuckservative that keeps drawing lines in the sand, and when the left steps over, you just complain and howl and draw another line?
You think the place to fight is against the FBI at your doorstep? As fucking if.
I don't know exactly where my line is. It's incredibly complicated. I have people that I love who depend on me. I have family spread out over the country. I have a community.
Where's the red line for you? What will the "fight" look like for you? Is it of a political and social nature or strictly tactical?
Personal red line is an opsec type of thing, so forgive the evasiveness. I'm not convinced that this site isn't a honeypot. Point is that I have one. If I have one, then I should be able to make good on it. That's where local groups, trained, and squared away comes in.
Either you have a line or not. If you have one, how are you going to act on it? If you aren't, well, it's never going to be safe or convenient to resist. Until maybe you have nothing to lose, in which case it's probably too late.
Maybe your line needs to be in consultation with your people, provided they themselves are relatively squared away.
What the fight will look like will be dynamic. Cold war or hot war? Both alternating? What's the role? I don't get to decide. Except, sometimes maybe I do. It depends.
Doesn't change the need to be capable. If I'm not capable, then none of this shit is worth talking about because I'll have no choice but to be butt fucked.
edit: and look man I don't mean to say you need to be a guerrilla fighter. Even in open guerrilla war, only a small percentage of the resistance were actual trigger pullers, the vast majority provided support. Safe houses, food, supplies, medical, intelligence, clothing, transportation, propaganda, smuggling, sabotage, etc., etc., are the back bone. However, the way you build that support network is local with folks you can trust. And you can trust them because you are all for the same area and you can vet him and his people. It's easy to honeypot some rubes over the internet or with some new-to-town'er. Very hard to do it pretending to be a guy who grew up in the area, whose parents lived there also, who can be found in old copies of yearbooks, whose prom date is a bartender at the local watering hole, etc. Trust networks are paramount. Can't be effective without them.
It took a long time for the civil war and revolution to kick off.
Sure but the U.S. as well as the world was vastly different back then. There's not going to be any giant blocks of Union and Confederate armies meeting at river crossings to discharge their rifles under a unified banner.