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iDinduNuffin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Utter nonsense is thinking opposition to slavery means believing all races are equal and should have equal status in America. But utter nonsense is what most of liberalism consists of. If I remember right, Lincoln was originally in the camp of shipping slaves off back to Africa once they were freed. The Liberia thing, you know.

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Test_user21 1 point ago +1 / -0

Stop being wrong

Look up things you intend to spout off on

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iDinduNuffin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Stop being brainwashed.

I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races… I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

—Abraham Lincoln

If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.

—Abraham Lincoln

But for your race among us there could not be war, although many men engaged on either side do not care for you one way or the other. Nevertheless, I repeat, without the institution of Slavery and the colored race as a basis, the war could not have an existence.

It is better for us both, therefore, to be separated. I know that there are free men among you, who even if they could better their condition are not as much inclined to go out of the country as those, who being slaves could obtain their freedom on this condition. I suppose one of the principal difficulties in the way of colonization is that the free colored man cannot see that his comfort would be advanced by it. You may believe you can live in Washington or elsewhere in the United States the remainder of your life [as easily], perhaps more so than you can in any foreign country, and hence you may come to the conclusion that you have nothing to do with the idea of going to a foreign country. This is (I speak in no unkind sense) an extremely selfish view of the case.

—Abraham Lincoln

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Test_user21 1 point ago +1 / -0

You need to learn to discriminate if you wanna start making actual gains instead of being let down nonstop. Lincoln was an avid racist btw

You need to learn to discriminate if you wanna start making actual gains instead of being let down nonstop. Lincoln was an avid racist btw

You need to learn to discriminate if you wanna start making actual gains instead of being let down nonstop. Lincoln was an avid racist btw

You need to learn to discriminate if you wanna start making actual gains instead of being let down nonstop. Lincoln was an avid racist btw

You don't even know your own argument

From a PBSspecial on the life of Pres Lincoln

Three days before he was shot, Lincoln stood on the second floor of the White House and made a speech to a crowd assembled outside celebrating the recent Union victory over the Confederacy. With his troops and Frederick Douglass very much in mind, Lincoln told the cheering crowd, which had demanded that he come to the window to address them, that he had decided to recommend that his 200,000 black troops and “the very intelligent Negroes” be given the right to vote.

You're ignorant, and when your ignorance is pointed out to you, you become indignant - typical.

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iDinduNuffin 1 point ago +1 / -0

What do you mean I don't know my argument? He believed blacks were biologically inferior to whites. He prioritized his political desires for the Union over slavery. He thought it would be better for both races if separate colonies were established for blacks to go to. You must have a very particular definition of racism if that doesn't qualify someone as avidly racist.

Why are you calling me ignorant when you're using a PBS article to cite something from Lincoln's second, maybe third-most famous speech? Wrongly cited, I might add. He didn't "decide to recommend" anything, he brought up the people who wanted voting rights for blacks and said it'd be his preference for it to be given to his soldiers and the very intelligent blacks. Notice the qualifier, which didn't exist for whites.