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Only_One_Box_Left 23 points ago +24 / -1

They warned us, and everyone spat on their legacies...

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Olds77 15 points ago +15 / -0

And what was the average government before them? Tyrannical blood lines across numerous countries. They were a huge step up and as long as enough of us relearn the painful lessons that they taught us along with what we know now I'm optimistic for the future. They fought so maybe it won't be as easy as we hoped, but the least we can do is do all we can civilly and prepare for the worst.

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bigdickhangsright 9 points ago +9 / -0

Weren't the Rothschilds around back then too?

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Olds77 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yes and I think they made a huge fortune during Napoleon. I think at Waterloo supposedly one of the Rothschilds had amassed such an information network everyone looked to him. He started selling everything, triggering a panic as people thought he knew Napoleon had won, when in reality he knew the British did and bought back a ton everyone panic sold. Like in wars the real victory is in the rout, when people panic and people can buy their shit for nothing or slaughter them as they run away easily. Don't ever give in to panic as things are never as bad as they seem, but you can always make them worse giving into fear and herd behavior.

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War_Hamster 6 points ago +6 / -0

Rothschilds hadn't solidified their reach yet.

Jefferson and Hamilton had heated battles about the need for a central bank. Hamilton lost a duel over the topic, even though the duel was rigged.

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Ballind 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, many wanted to ban them. Didn't end up doing it because you had to earn life in America so Jews just weren't a real problem (other than the slave trade)

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Arwyn3x 6 points ago +6 / -0

Tyrannical blood lines across numerous countries.

Yes, and those tyrannical blood lines have been trying to drag us back into FEUDALISM, DISGUISED AS GLOBALISM since 5 minutes after Thomas Jefferson finished writing the Declaration of Independence.

Their first objective was our Nations Banking System, it took them over 130 years but they did it in 1910, with the aid of a handy banking crisis in 1907.

Knowing what we know today how much of this "crisis" do you think was manufactured, and J.P. Morgan got his pay off ?

The panic was triggered by the failed attempt in October 1907 to corner the market on stock of the United Copper Company. When this bid failed, banks that had lent money to the cornering scheme suffered runs that later spread to affiliated banks and trusts, leading a week later to the downfall of the Knickerbocker Trust Company—New York City's third-largest trust.

The collapse of the Knickerbocker spread fear throughout the city's trusts as regional banks withdrew reserves from New York City banks. Panic extended across the nation as vast numbers of people withdrew deposits from their regional banks. It is the 9th largest decline in U.S. stock market history.[3]

The panic might have deepened if not for the intervention of financier J. P. Morgan,[4] who pledged large sums of his own money, and convinced other New York bankers to do the same, to shore up the banking system. This highlighted the impotence of the nation's Independent Treasury system, which managed the nation's money supply yet was unable to inject liquidity back into the market.

By November, the financial contagion had largely ended, only to be replaced by a further crisis. This was due to the heavy borrowing of a large brokerage firm that used the stock of Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Company (TC&I) as collateral. Collapse of TC&I's stock price was averted by an emergency takeover by Morgan's U.S. Steel Corporation— a move approved by anti-monopolist president Theodore Roosevelt.

The following year, Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, a leading Republican, established and chaired a commission to investigate the crisis and propose future solutions, leading to the creation of the Federal Reserve System.[5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1907

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War_Hamster 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is my mindset as well. Looking forward to tomorrow night's Constitutional Class. We're doing my favorite 2 Amendments, the 16th and 17th.

Both MUST be repealed.

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kekbepraised 3 points ago +3 / -0

there will be nothing 'civil' about taking it back. except possibly civil war. I think if we demand and as a nation, a massive majority, demand via threat of force, a lot of these people will resign. and most of them will hide because of the blackmail they have.

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Olds77 3 points ago +3 / -0

Protesting and massive numbers can do a lot, but there are also things we can do, citizen journalism, build our own information networks to combat the lies the MSM spreads and continue to take over the Republican party bit by bit. Nothing's perfect, but we can accomplish things.

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kekbepraised 3 points ago +3 / -0

side thought: theVAST majority of military is republican (those that stay at least 4 years anyway) - they wont engage us. THey will literally require democrat brass to stand down our forces and implement nato forces to do gun confiscation. i see no way other than that as a slightly feasible option. which is why they push that propaganda so hard of anti 2a. - then the 'grunts' will say 'this is an attack, foreign and domestic' - and they will uphold their oath. especially after getting metal shavings in their fucking food guarding the capital for these fuck nosed brown sniffers.

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Olds77 3 points ago +3 / -0

The enlisted grunts grew up around guns and believing in this country. The brass in Vietnam got fragged for much less than a civil war would involve and the grunts would take great pleasure in that. I'm not worried. The masses of cops and military are on our side and if this gets big enough they'll know what it means, it won't just be going after one or two here, but ever increasingly visible lines of battle. People the tyrants think will be on their side will be the most vicious and have a massive effect. The real war will be the same as it is now the information war as people can easily give into panic even when their winning. This of course is only if things truly go sideways and in the worst case many people here fear with the government turning on its citizens. The enemy is never as capable or powerful as a person's fear can imagine them to be and our forefathers were up against terrible odds yet they pulled it off.

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Dingus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well look what color they were. Cmon man!

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publius1788 17 points ago +17 / -0

This is not a real quote.

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brother_red 9 points ago +9 / -0

Correct. It's a mashup of a real Jefferson quote and NOAM CHOMSKY'S comment about it.

https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/end-democracyspurious-quotation

I fucking hate fake Jefferson quotes. This one is at least closer than most.

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Timecop1776 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes it’s fake, but I will point out Jefferson was strongly against a central bank or something like the federal reserve and his real quotes essentially say the same thing.

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brother_red 2 points ago +2 / -0

Jefferson died in 1826.

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americafirst1994 3 points ago +3 / -0

youre right, another user mentioned a comment about a duel and i instantly thought of hamilton thanks pede

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TheNightJanitor 3 points ago +3 / -0

Never ceases to amaze how much smarter than us these guys were.

Like. Not different league, but not even the same damn sport smarter.

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rootGoose 3 points ago +3 / -0

Aristotle knew.

He claimed the last stage before a dictatorship is an oligarchy.

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TrumpJudo 2 points ago +2 / -0

or 1913 when America stopped issuing it's currency.

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kekbepraised 2 points ago +2 / -0

the 2nd amendment is how we take it out of their hands. He knew that too.

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B1ueCo11ar 2 points ago +4 / -2

Oy vey

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