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VoltronGreen1981 7 points ago +7 / -0

She needs to stay at the state level and develop an actual track record. Not virtue-signal about lack of lockdowns.

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TravlingThr0ugh 7 points ago +7 / -0

People keep defending after her failure theater. She vetoed the bill.

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AmericanJawa 4 points ago +4 / -0

Here we are letting corporations dictate the terms of our values, while those same corporations are eerily silent on such matters when it would actually hurt them.

Notice how silent these organizations are on China's recent decision to label homosexuality a mental illness.

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NoCoupForYou 2 points ago +2 / -0

Noem can't even stand up to the Sioux Falls Chamber of Commerce, she certainly can't stand up to National and International Leftists like Gates and Soros.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/24/kristi-noems-advisors-include-corporate-interests-who-pushed-veto-on-transgender-sports-bill/

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itsdangerous 2 points ago +3 / -1

there's prolly a video of her somewhere with a fly lol

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Fignugent -1 points ago +3 / -4

it's still early days and you turn on people instantly

it's clear you have no idea what they're up against

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Elvathelion [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

Instantly?

There's been plenty of red flags with Noem that most of us shrugged off for well known reasons, I like many other people are willing to accept differences on some issues but in this situation Noem has not acted in an honest manner.

if Noem had objections, like every other governor she could have made them known during the normal bill process. That is how passing a bill works — when governors actually want a bill they’re willing to sign.

On 8 March of this year:

She tweeted her promise to sign the bill with these provisions in it before it passed. A friendly Gov works with the Leg. to raise concerns before a bill passes. Then the Leg. can make changes. She said nothing. She could have easily cured the supposed technical problems.

Governor Noem is not acting in good faith with her own legislature in a Republican controlled state.

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NoCoupForYou 6 points ago +6 / -0

Absolutely correct. She was gungho for the bill until it actually passed, then she went radio silent as the Corporate Pressure Groups threatened financing for future campaigns if she signed it.

"Legal Scholars on the National Level" Who? NCAA Corporate bigwigs? ACLU?

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Fignugent -1 points ago +4 / -5

there is no cure for the bill. the NCAA will pull out of the state if they don't comply PERIOD

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Elvathelion [S] 7 points ago +8 / -1

So be it.

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Fignugent -3 points ago +3 / -6

so instead of protecting women's sports you obliterated them for every girl in south dakota to make a point?

that's why she's the leader and you're just a dumb citizen with a larger opinion than you deserve

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Elvathelion [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

If you accept that the NCAA has the right to dictate legislation perhaps, I think it might be time for the NCAA to go along with all the other woke purveyors of garbage.

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Fignugent -3 points ago +1 / -4

once again, they control the sport so yes they control the manner in which it is conducted

or not at all

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NoCoupForYou 5 points ago +5 / -0

They have a monopoly on the sport. Break the monopoly, dare them to cut off the state from participation. Be willing to SUFFER short term to WIN long term.

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Elvathelion [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

gatekeepers

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AmericanJawa 4 points ago +4 / -0

The value of having the support of the NCAA is not worth the cost of sacrificing ones soul.

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Fignugent -4 points ago +1 / -5

souls don't exist

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AmericanJawa 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you insist on arguing against the existence of God, then the value of having the support of the NCAA is not worth the cost of sacrificing ones moral values, is not worth the cost of sacrificing ones principals, is not worth the cost of surrendering to depravity.

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Fignugent -1 points ago +1 / -2

none of those costs have any tangible value

you act like if this bill isn't signed now then everything is broken forever

which is ludicrous and naive

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AmericanJawa 1 point ago +1 / -0

So you don't have anything you stand for? You're completely flexible in what you believe in depending on whatever direction society leans?

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VoltronGreen1981 3 points ago +3 / -0

So don't expect them to fight back. Great standard.

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Fignugent -2 points ago +1 / -3

she IS fighting, with a multi-state coalition to achieve the necessary bargaining power to ACTUALLY win a fight

letting people who know what they're doing actually do their job is indeed a great standard

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NoCoupForYou 5 points ago +5 / -0

Multi-state coalition = "Raise Money and issue White Papers. Sue Nobody, Take No Real Action, Support RINOs"

Leftists win because they don't do this. They through dung at the wall constantly, and eventually it sticks. RINO Permalosers look for reasons to quit on the verge of victory

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Fignugent -4 points ago +1 / -5

life doesn't work that way

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AmericanJawa 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why not?

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Fignugent 0 points ago +1 / -1

because she needs to keep sports in her state first and foremost?

i love how you're willing to risk the careers of girls that are not you, just to lose a battle "on principle"

i'm sure these girls love your moral victory and value it more than their own success at life

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AmericanJawa 1 point ago +1 / -0

because she needs to keep sports in her state first and foremost?

Why?

i love how you're willing to risk the careers of girls that are not you, just to lose a battle "on principle"

Their careers are already worthless if they have to compete against men. Are you completely ignoring one of the leading issues surrounding this entire argument, where biological males competing in woman's sports makes it impossible for the women to compete?

You're arguing for a no-win scenario.

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TravlingThr0ugh 3 points ago +3 / -0

A coalition of what, emails? If she really wanted a multi-state legal battle she could have signed the bill. Then the other state AGs would have joined her legal battle.

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Fignugent -2 points ago +1 / -3

that's not how it works

signing the bill is starting a fight on their terms with NO ONE on your side

forming a coalition is finding people to fight, finding out what forces you actually have, then making a battle plan that wins the fight you take on your own terms

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TravlingThr0ugh 2 points ago +3 / -1

I call bs she could have done this-> Mississippi governor signs bill banning transgender athletes from women’s school sports: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/03/13/mississippi-governor-signs-bill-banning-transgender-athletes-sports/4679759001/

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Fignugent -2 points ago +1 / -3

she could have

and mississippi can also lose everything, you have no idea how things are going to play out

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AmericanJawa 1 point ago +1 / -0

you have no idea how things are going to play out

And you do?

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NeverTwitterer 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is already a coalition of states that have banned trans. Sign and join. Convince other states to join. Be a fucking leader.

Stop making excuses. We sit back and let the left win again and again. Its time to fight, fuck these bs soft stratigies.

NCAA doesnt like it? Kick them out entirely from the state and make a different league. Its time to draw the line and say fuck off to the leftists.

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Fignugent -3 points ago +1 / -4

Its time to fucking go

she's the leader, she makes that decision not you

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AmericanJawa 1 point ago +1 / -0

She's suppose to represent the will of the people.

That's not what she's doing right now.

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Elvathelion [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why are you ignoring that she enthusiastically supported the bill and promised to sign it and only had a change of "thinking" after the bill passed?

As governor of a GOP controlled state she had every opportunity to be part of the process in crafting and guiding the legislation.

It really looks like sabotage to me and let's not forget that Noem has been weak on trans issues before:

Governor Noem Has Concerns About HB 1057

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem says she has “concerns” about a bill in the House that would make it illegal for physicians to administer gender-change treatments to children under 16. The Republican governor has declined to offer full support or disapproval. The bill would allow for physicians who perform surgeries, administer hormone therapy or prescribe puberty-blocking medication to minors to be charged with a misdemeanor. Democrats and LGBT activists say the bill targets transgender kids and could lead to an increase in suicides. Supporters, including many Republicans in the House, say the bill would prevent physicians from administering ideologically motivated treatment that harms children.

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Fignugent -3 points ago +1 / -4

and only had a change of "thinking" after the bill passed?

she had a change of thinking when state lawyers said she'd never win a case against the NCAA if they just removed college sports from her state over this bill

you change your mind on things when you get information from people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about and advise you

that's how INTELLIGENCE works

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Elvathelion [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

lawyers said she'd never win a case against the NCAA if they just removed college sports

weak