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basedvirginian 8 points ago +8 / -0

Can someone enlighten me on why school choice is seen as a bad thing? Isn’t the whole purpose to get kids out of failing schools?

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ALargeRock 12 points ago +12 / -0

Because certain schools, mostly in cities, push bullshit propaganda and don’t actually do a good job of teaching. However, strong teachers unions (which is a pretty clever thing to hide behind) strong arm communities to keep increasing public funding.

So you have a situation where public funds are being spent to harm communities via locking children in with their schools; a Democrat/CCP gold mine of evil. They use media to push keeping students in failing schools.

As we all know, competition breeds excellence and if schools have to compete on educational standards, then public schools will collapse as the free(r) market will blow them away.

School choice makes total sense for freedom loving patriots that want a better America. It is in direct opposition to establishment globohomo Democrats and their cronies.

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RageQuit 3 points ago +3 / -0

It also encourages Juanita to set up her own fraudulent school and collect a big paycheck. I sure hope they don't enforce standards. Paying to keep their spawn away from my kids is money well spent.

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Reality_Check 5 points ago +6 / -1

Because often times schools are failing because of the people going there, and introducing them to new schools ends up causing problems for the new school. I have personal experience with this. The problem isn't "school choice ", it's demographics. But you can't talk about that because there might be one Mexican kid who would do better even if it brings down 80% of the kids at the new school.

What makes people think they're going to put some low iq kid who is violent and has parents who don't care into a nice school and he's magically going to change. And that's how it ALWAYS ends up. There's this fairy tale thinking that the SMART parents are going to pull their kids and move them, but that's not real. The reason these schools are bad in the first place is BECAUSE of the people.

I was forced into a mixed high-school because of school choice and it became one of the lowest performance schools in the state, with increased violence and metal detectors after one year.

They imported 2 low performance black kids into my kid's private school class on A "disadvantaged " scholarship and they're a constant disruption and already have made the class "slow down" for them.

It's like people who think if we just take south Chicago and put it in Beverly Hills then suddenly all the problems with south Chicago wouldn't manifest. It's magical thinking. Even poor white kids have better SAT scores than black kids in high income households.

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ukr567 1 point ago +1 / -0

Last summer I read Sowel's book on Charter schools, he has a ton of data in there, quite interesting. My take from it was this. Basically discipline work ;) unlike normal school successful charters can and do kick violent kids out. In many cases if you get rid of the worst 10% rest can do very well. That and being able to fire useless teachers not he spot.

I think you are right that with school where kids can not get kicked out and discipline is not enforced it is basically all based on people going there. Once school can actually act as a school things change quite a bit

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Isolated_Patriot 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because then the white people take their kids out of the failing schools, or something like that. It's not "fair" to the failing schools.

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that_sound 4 points ago +4 / -0

Because it's bigger than schools. Because implementing school choice would implement competition. It would create a free market (or something approaching that). And if it worked, that would prove to everyone that free markets work better than centrally-planned government-run communist control. It could break the whole scheme.

School Choice being a bad thing makes more sense if you consider the possibility that TPTB are not interested in educating your children. Just as a mental exercise, just for a minute, assume that the government is intentionally mis-educating your children.

We are in a transition period. The communists took over education and started indoctrinating children. This changed the culture as the early children grew into adults, as intended. But it's hard to hide the fact that schools run by commies don't work. Nothing run by commies works. As intended - it protects the people running the show.

One way or another, we will choose whether to let competition do its thing, or let central planners plan everything for us.

End public unions!

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Joesf23 3 points ago +3 / -0

It is only bad for teachers union because god forbid they actually have to step up their teaching game and try to give a shit about something more important than their fucking pension, 3 months off, and blm brainwashing platform.