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FitOfficial 5 points ago +6 / -1

It needs to go a step further. Schools need to provide a multi-year ROI for every degree they offer.

-how much are you paying overall, fees included?

-what is the average and median salary split out by job title for every position covered by your degree?

-how long will it take to pay your degree off given the above numbers with minimum payments?

-what are the employment rates for those with said degree split out by university?

They need to prove their worth. They do NONE of this currently. They sit kids down and say "sign here if you want a future" and they get off scot-free as they bury people in debt for life.

There's definitely an argument for personal responsibility, but you can't discount that the vast majority of these people have been brainwashed their entire lives that without college you're nothing. The whole system is beyond fucked.

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FireannDireach 7 points ago +8 / -1

Many heads to this hydra. Paying for the useless degree is one thing, now let's look at employers who require degrees for jobs that don't need them. A bachelors is the new high school diploma. Requiring an admin to have a 4 year degree is lunacy, but there are companies that do it. But companies don't train anymore, so they want fully trained, good to go from day one on everything hires, because it means bigger bonuses for the executive suite. And don't get me started on the Master's nonsense. I've watched umpteen coworkers get a Masters on the company dime who are no better after getting it, than they were before. The assignments I'd see them working on were things they already knew - but they signed on. Now they have TWO degrees, and someone profited greatly from them. Then look at how colleges over the last 20 years went hard into profit. They all got fat and happy off Federal guaranteed loans, and have renovated their campuses with new buildings, labs, and more classroom space to cram even more profit...er...students into them. And, let's not talk about how students loans are being packaged as investments.

The whole thing is corrupt and designed to get kids on the interest hook for the next couple of decades of their lives. Scholarships? That's the tiny problem. God forbid we look at the big picture of how generations of teens and young adults are being hoodwinked into a financial mill around their neck. You think gender studies are worthless degrees? Show me any generic "psychology", "English" or "business" BA holder, and I'll show you someone who got sold a bridge in Brooklyn.

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megxit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Companies don't train anymore because they used to be able to easily hire unpaid interns and now there's so much red tape and liability it's usually not worth it.

This is definitely failure by design.

And completely agree the things they teach are borderline useless, if not downright wrong.