Thanks man. This is like my 40th account here cause I always lose passwords. 😂 but I've seen a ton like us in here! I think right wing atheists are like us, we've just never organized.
For people that claim to be so logical and good at debate, they really don't understand that comparing someone's philosophical keystone (God) to a flying spaghetti monster is incredibly combative, rude, and is only going to make their listener entrench even harder. No logic in that.
I agree! I view the whole situation as a question of moral value. I have always thought that faith is not a bad thing on its own. If it compels those who believe to act with charity, kindness, and brotherhood, then it has value even if I don't believe in it myself.
There is a difference between criticizing the strictures of a faith when it instructs men to act unjustly and mocking it for the satisfaction of one's ego.
I'm conflicted. My ex from high school's mom once asked me what keeps me from killing her, when asking about my religion and me revealing I am atheist. She casually responded that if it weren't for God, she would stab me with her dinner fork in a heart beat for being such a shitty person (an atheist).
I am both terrified and thankful that religion puts people like her at bay. 😂
I've met people who genuinely can't believe that a moral framework can exist outside of faith, but only a very small number of them reacted with that kind of hostility.
When people tell me that morality derives from religion, my answer is that no, law derives from religion. Morality derives from empathy. That is to say, I would not murder or steal from someone because I would not wish to be murdered or stolen from, as opposed to not doing those things out of fear of punishment.
Thanks man. This is like my 40th account here cause I always lose passwords. 😂 but I've seen a ton like us in here! I think right wing atheists are like us, we've just never organized.
For people that claim to be so logical and good at debate, they really don't understand that comparing someone's philosophical keystone (God) to a flying spaghetti monster is incredibly combative, rude, and is only going to make their listener entrench even harder. No logic in that.
I agree! I view the whole situation as a question of moral value. I have always thought that faith is not a bad thing on its own. If it compels those who believe to act with charity, kindness, and brotherhood, then it has value even if I don't believe in it myself.
There is a difference between criticizing the strictures of a faith when it instructs men to act unjustly and mocking it for the satisfaction of one's ego.
I'm conflicted. My ex from high school's mom once asked me what keeps me from killing her, when asking about my religion and me revealing I am atheist. She casually responded that if it weren't for God, she would stab me with her dinner fork in a heart beat for being such a shitty person (an atheist).
I am both terrified and thankful that religion puts people like her at bay. 😂
I've met people who genuinely can't believe that a moral framework can exist outside of faith, but only a very small number of them reacted with that kind of hostility.
When people tell me that morality derives from religion, my answer is that no, law derives from religion. Morality derives from empathy. That is to say, I would not murder or steal from someone because I would not wish to be murdered or stolen from, as opposed to not doing those things out of fear of punishment.