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I'm the only person that I know or have interacted with that is genuinely agnostic. It's been my experience that you are absolutely correct in respect to the overwhelming majority of people who claim to be atheist. They just want to be edgy and don't really believe in anything other than what they can get for themselves.
I tell people I am atheist, but atheists say I'm agnostic. I wouldn't say I am genuinely agnostic. What do you mean by that?
For me, there is knowing and there is believing. I believe there is no God, but I don't know that. That's usually where the "you're agnostic" comments come from, although it's an absurd thing to claim to know, in either direction.
Atheism is the absolute belief that there is no God or gods.
Theism is the absolute belief in God or gods.
Agnosticism is the belief that there's no way to know one way or the other.
it's a bit of an over simplification, but not much.
Personally, I think there is a possibility (not necessarily a probability) of a higher order being but I don't believe He or She (or Xhe, just in case) would be anything like what people would imagine as God. I don't believe in destiny or any preordination or fate etc.
I think anyone who would be God wouldn't care a great deal about us and if God did, He wouldn't be very impressed. Humans, in general, and especially in large numbers...very much suck.
There's not a single religion I've ever looked at that resonated with me in any real way and I've looked at literally dozens of major and dozens and dozens more of minor religions.
As JimQ said, that's deism, the clock maker.
That sums up the distinction perfectly, I have 0% belief in a spiritual God, but acknowledge that it's impossible to know. So to me, that means knowingly agnostic, believingly atheist.
One rabbit hole that may interest you is simulation theory. It's core argument is that if our species doesn't die out or stop progressing in the future, it's near certain we will have technology to replicate reality to a point that's indistinguishable. If that future scenario exists, then it's impossible to know if we're already in one.
Back 15 years ago or so, we started "glitch in the matrix" forums on various sites to report bugs in reality that would be evidence of a simulation. The Mandela Effect came out of that. My wife, coworkers and I have all seen Froot Loops change to Fruit Loops for 3 weeks and back with our own eyes. I no longer believe we are in base reality. That means that there are creator(s), we very likely were made in their image, and there is a mechanism to perform "divine interventions."
If you think Im insane, I get it. 😂