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posted ago by Bigbadchows ago by Bigbadchows +2365 / -4

An employee at a major bank in Florida was so grateful we passed 15 an hour min. She makes roughly 19 an hour and her son works in retail. She said how pleased she was that they would earn more money. I stated "how we going to make more money"? She went on to explain her 20 years of service is worth a lot more than min wage. I responded the 15 an hour is like food stamps, designed to help the poorest among us. She than asked the manager when they raise the min wage 1.5 will she get more money. To which she was told no, just the annual raise if available. It was at that moment she understood. Telling me if she could work at the zoo for 15 an hour why would she work in a high stress office. To which I responded "you wouldn't". In hind sight I should have said those making 100k would prolly get raises.

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OperationCatSpeed 135 points ago +135 / -0

Same assholes who complain about rent but don't understand greenbelting.

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findthewarmspot 59 points ago +59 / -0

Green belting is what’s currently going on in Austin. So many CA people moving here at the moment that Texans can’t afford to buy a house.

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OperationCatSpeed 31 points ago +32 / -1

Residents need to push to fuck up zoning laws by upzoning everything in sight as quickly as you can. You'll be SF soon if you don't...

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HankHollywoodJr 34 points ago +34 / -0

20+ years too late. This has been happening in ATX since the late 90s. Now instead of being ran by lovable hippies it's ran by CA hipsters and the ultra liberal. Too bad, it was so wonderful back in the 90s and before.

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Kpstyles 18 points ago +18 / -0

It’s run by a DC swamp liberal! And now a devout communist (Casar). The home prices are crazy though. Every home is going for well over asking with bidding wars.

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anonymousdonor 8 points ago +8 / -0

I never heard ATX until out of state faggots started saying ATX. Austin is six letters. I don't know of any other prominent city named Austin.

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anonymousdonor 3 points ago +3 / -0

Would you rather there be 30 story high condos everywhere? What are you advocating for?

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BallsackPaneer 6 points ago +7 / -1

Austin exploits the hell out of their "aquifer recharge zones" to eliminate whole areas of land from being developed. A friend of mine had a home that backed up to one, which was nice for him as it drove prices through the roof.

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anonymousdonor 3 points ago +3 / -0

Texans haven't been able to buy a house there for decades. Property in places like Johnson City, which is a dusty shithole, is going up.

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Bluntman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sounds like everywhere in Australia. Over immigration causing housing prices to be insane and Australians can't even find an affordable place to live.

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julianReyes 1 point ago +2 / -1

Wow, it's like Trump was popular for a reason.

Conservatives need to stop the "live and let live" cuckery and just ramp up the aggressive intolerance for the leftist weaklings. HOLY FUCK, VALUE YOUR COMMUNITY. Stop wringing your hands at the prospect of war.

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MemeWarBoot 44 points ago +44 / -0

We passed a law enacting higher taxes on landlords! We did it!

Wait why the fuck is my rent 200$ more expensive per month?

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templariusz 33 points ago +33 / -0

Can you explain what greenbelting is? (English is not my 1st language)

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OperationCatSpeed 85 points ago +87 / -2

Liberals trying to inflate the price of their shithole cities. It generally boils down to this.

  1. Be a shithole blue city with self centered, shithole liberal residents.
  2. Decide that you want to inflate home prices to 2-3X what they should be because heaven forbid your CCP land investors homing their money in your state should have to suffer a 1-2 year loss on their investments.
  3. Zone everything as single family dwellings. This makes sure your self-centered, shithole liberal residents can bunk up illegals in their houses and profit off them. It also has the added bonus of making condos or non-rent controlled housing untenable to the working class without gubment gibs.
  4. Declare every rural area surrounding your city as a "natural reserve" so it's unconscionable to develop on it. This is the greenbelt.

This has been California's recipe for shit housing prices for the last 30 years. If you need a reference model, take a look at the SF bay in google earth sometime and note the nice little eco-fascist green belt surrounding it.

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Snakecasablanca83 23 points ago +23 / -0

I tried to google "greenbelting" and found some things in wikipedia etc that sort of explained it. I tried to search for the concerns you have and cannot find any articles or any such thing where someone shares a similar concern as you of greenbelting.

Im trying to understand your concern and I think I'm seeing it.

Essentially the government can control house prices by just not letting people build more properties. They use that control corruptly to both keep house prices high by restricting control, as well as to fill their own pockets by selling deisions to special interest groups and lobbists who they will approve applications for in the "greenbelt" as a favor in return for another favor or most likely financial political donations to your campaign / party.

Am I on the right track. Not taking the piss I find this interesting.

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megxit 9 points ago +9 / -0

Removing single family dwellings is the next step in the globalist plan. This guy is sus. Especially because CA has been INCREASING the towns in which you can build ADUs and condos and other high density housing.

The problem with the housing prices in CA has to do with a whole array of factors. First there is the permitting process and the taxes. It's incredibly expensive to build a house there and it takes a long time to get through permits so that means more holding costs. Wages on all the laborers are higher so subcontractor costs are higher. Also, The construction pricing and gas prices go hand in hand because of how much trucking is involved and $4.80 a gallon isn't cheap.

Plus construction in CA is different than it is in the middle of the country. The dirt is different and harder to work with. There's more excavation and more engineering. And the house needs to withstand not only strong winds but flooding, earthquakes and sub 0 temperatures.

There is also the Hollywood factor. prices are so high because of hype and demand.

I don't understand why this guy thinks increasing the amount of apartments will decrease the prices. There is no reason with a country so big we need that many people in the big cities. We need to spread out, not pile in.

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Food4thought 7 points ago +7 / -0

California has more rules and edicts than you can count, and some of them make absolutely no sense. In places like Santa Barbra, they don't have any build-able land left, so they are trying to convince homeowners to add small "grandma houses" in their back yards and rent them out. They really need to make more apartments, but people don't want to ruin the look of their city with them so the law of supply and demand drives up home prices. Ironically, they're gentrifying the hell out of these areas while telling everyone else they need to add more.... ahem.. "diversity".

Improvements are a double edged sword. If you upgrade your home or building, it's value gets re-assessed at current market rates (Prop 13 maintains at ~1% per year normally and is the only good tax break Californians have over other states) so if you have owned it for any length of time you get a big change in your property taxes there after. This creates an incentive for people NOT to make improvements on anything.

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feraxil 4 points ago +4 / -0

You are exactly on the right track.

Its corruption and stepping on the little guy at its finest.

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Food4thought 3 points ago +3 / -0

Add on top of this the (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_belt)[green belting] (broad term to describe preservation of wildlife in and around city) and you have rising home prices. People who can afford to live within the city will either be A) living on the street or in dense crappy living conditions while barely making enough to get by, or B) affluent, liberals who see this as a government should fix this problem.

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Brellin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your first mistake was using google. They actively push down and supress good sources for all sorts of information. You want to use Brave, Bing, DuckDuckGo, really use anything that isn't google as a search engine. You will be fucking amazed at the difference results you will get even if you're searching for literally the exact same thing.

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templariusz 10 points ago +10 / -0

I see. Thanks for the explanation!

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stratocaster_patriot 8 points ago +8 / -0

Seattle too. People are finally starting to leave Seattle and still demand for housing outpaces supply and prices continue to soar. I saw some property the other day about 45 miles outside the city with a broken down double wide mobile home that pretty much just needed to be removed and replaced. $375k. And they'll get it. Now ask yourself how all these blue haired lip ring wearing freaks who claim to represent Seattle even live here? Mommy and daddy is my first guess.

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julianReyes 3 points ago +3 / -0

When will people learn? Can the American experiment even be salvaged?

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SupremeDearLeader2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Here in socal environmentalists spent 100 mill trying to block housing development on a small patch of land , it became a park instead and now that land is a homeless encampment w hundreds of druggies throwing trash and pooping in the park. Good job dems .

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good explanation!

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 9 points ago +9 / -0

Also the same assholes that complain about the rent but vote to raise property taxes at every opportunity. My area has many of these assholes. They are economically retarded.

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SupremeDearLeader2 5 points ago +5 / -0

AOC is their queen

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neokulak 1 point ago +1 / -0

Conservation and containing cities prevents sprawl, which is the cause of said shithole cities. Conservation is a conservative cause. Fuck their cities. Contain them.