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posted ago by Bigbadchows ago by Bigbadchows +2365 / -4

An employee at a major bank in Florida was so grateful we passed 15 an hour min. She makes roughly 19 an hour and her son works in retail. She said how pleased she was that they would earn more money. I stated "how we going to make more money"? She went on to explain her 20 years of service is worth a lot more than min wage. I responded the 15 an hour is like food stamps, designed to help the poorest among us. She than asked the manager when they raise the min wage 1.5 will she get more money. To which she was told no, just the annual raise if available. It was at that moment she understood. Telling me if she could work at the zoo for 15 an hour why would she work in a high stress office. To which I responded "you wouldn't". In hind sight I should have said those making 100k would prolly get raises.

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OperationCatSpeed 85 points ago +87 / -2

Liberals trying to inflate the price of their shithole cities. It generally boils down to this.

  1. Be a shithole blue city with self centered, shithole liberal residents.
  2. Decide that you want to inflate home prices to 2-3X what they should be because heaven forbid your CCP land investors homing their money in your state should have to suffer a 1-2 year loss on their investments.
  3. Zone everything as single family dwellings. This makes sure your self-centered, shithole liberal residents can bunk up illegals in their houses and profit off them. It also has the added bonus of making condos or non-rent controlled housing untenable to the working class without gubment gibs.
  4. Declare every rural area surrounding your city as a "natural reserve" so it's unconscionable to develop on it. This is the greenbelt.

This has been California's recipe for shit housing prices for the last 30 years. If you need a reference model, take a look at the SF bay in google earth sometime and note the nice little eco-fascist green belt surrounding it.

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Snakecasablanca83 23 points ago +23 / -0

I tried to google "greenbelting" and found some things in wikipedia etc that sort of explained it. I tried to search for the concerns you have and cannot find any articles or any such thing where someone shares a similar concern as you of greenbelting.

Im trying to understand your concern and I think I'm seeing it.

Essentially the government can control house prices by just not letting people build more properties. They use that control corruptly to both keep house prices high by restricting control, as well as to fill their own pockets by selling deisions to special interest groups and lobbists who they will approve applications for in the "greenbelt" as a favor in return for another favor or most likely financial political donations to your campaign / party.

Am I on the right track. Not taking the piss I find this interesting.

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megxit 9 points ago +9 / -0

Removing single family dwellings is the next step in the globalist plan. This guy is sus. Especially because CA has been INCREASING the towns in which you can build ADUs and condos and other high density housing.

The problem with the housing prices in CA has to do with a whole array of factors. First there is the permitting process and the taxes. It's incredibly expensive to build a house there and it takes a long time to get through permits so that means more holding costs. Wages on all the laborers are higher so subcontractor costs are higher. Also, The construction pricing and gas prices go hand in hand because of how much trucking is involved and $4.80 a gallon isn't cheap.

Plus construction in CA is different than it is in the middle of the country. The dirt is different and harder to work with. There's more excavation and more engineering. And the house needs to withstand not only strong winds but flooding, earthquakes and sub 0 temperatures.

There is also the Hollywood factor. prices are so high because of hype and demand.

I don't understand why this guy thinks increasing the amount of apartments will decrease the prices. There is no reason with a country so big we need that many people in the big cities. We need to spread out, not pile in.

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OperationCatSpeed 2 points ago +2 / -0

INCREASING the towns in which you can build ADUs

See point 3. ADUs are for shithole, liberal homeowners to house illegals in a converted garage.

and condos and other high density housing.

Categorically false. NIMBYers are categorically opposed to condos out in CA.

The problem with the housing prices in CA has to do with a whole array of factors.

It's fairly simple. Shithole liberals created shithole rules to ensure their shithole property values never fall. Soil is just as hard to build out east in some places and have equivalent permitting processes (not fees process), but the construction and housing prices are 1/2-1/3 the bullshit they are in CA.