Kroger, America's largest supermarket chain, shutters stores after Los Angeles passes +$5/hr hazard pay ordinance for essential workers
(www.theguardian.com)
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Good. I'm sick of this shit. The person in the article makes $15.30 for dragging a loaf of bread across a scanner that does 90% of the work for her.
She wants to know why the company founder/president makes $21M and she makes $31K? Because he founded the fucking company, runs the fucking company, deals with every single aspect of his company on a daily basis, makes sure his company stays running every single day, and has to deal with shitheads like her every fucking day.
She drags bread across a scanner.
Hazzard pay for a grocery store checker. I thought I heard it all.
They'll just replace the human scanners with rows of uscan, and cut down to one worker that monitors and swipes your coupon.
They can't in LA, everyone would just steal the food. Thats why they're shutting down.
Aint that what the rioting and looting be about getting food for their faimilies. Got to cook them NIKES SLOW .
They do that now it's not a crime to steal in CA if it's under $950. So most places just let them steal, and take the lost vs the risk of trying to stop them and a lawsuit.
Already happening at all our local stores. Shockingly, when I do it myself I get better service!
yup. just gotta wait for the population to age
I don't get it
younger people are used to self check out now, so once the older generation who hate it passes, then stores can fire cashiers and just make everyone do self checkout with a couple workers keeping an eye on the line and people scanning their stuff.
There are laws in CA that require certain items (e.g. booze) to be bought at a non-automated checkout. This forces at least one non-automated checkout to be running.
That's why I go across the street to the liquor store, the few times I buy alcohol. Liquor store is cheaper most of the time, too. Safeway's prices - at least on the stuff I buy, is higher than the local liquor store and the BevMo around the corner.
Our Walmart attempted that years ago had to cut them out after the severe uptick in shoplifting and down scanners.
The older ones didn't, so probably not all places have them, but they have been adding cameras to self checkouts in ones I have seen so you get recorded while you do it like an atm. That and they make it very apparent.
I do have to give props to Walmart though, they seem to be one of the few big stores that aggressively go after shoplifters from what I have heard. Lot of grocery stores seem to have crap policies in dealing with it and make it a cost of business, passing it to you.
They actually let you shoplift several times and keep the recordings before they finally press charges. Then they can show all of the recordings to the court and prove that it wasn't a "mistake" but repeated deliberate thefts.
At least that is what I am told by people who work there.
I have to say I agree with you to a degree, though I don't think people should look down on her or anyone and she should be paid a fair wage.
I've got a full time job where I manage a department and have to meet schedules set by panicked clients and set up their projects, take care of people who work with me etc. I've got a part time gig I've had for awhile for a few bucks and to help out the owner who is my buddy thats similar to what that woman is doing. I've literally got almost no pressure or stress on most days, it almost doesn't feel like work. But I have to be there. If I had only had those kind of jobs full time, I might feel the same way as her because of my lack of perspective. There is also a part of me, the weak part that considers how much easier life would be if I did that. Leave work and literally 0 thoughts about it after, no worry or stress.
A fair wage is the rate the market sets for the skillset of the job. If there are people willing and capable of doing a job for less, that's the fair wage. All other notions of "fair" are just someone trying to get paid what they want, not what the market sets.
Not all jobs are meant to be filled with head of household skilled labor to generate a "living wage" for a family of four. Some are better suited for high schoolers working part time for some extra cash, and that's an efficient labor market.
For some reason, the notion has developed that wages should be arbitrarily determined by the benevolence (or lack of) faceless corporate managers, and decisions to offer lower wages are "being greedy". But we all pay, through higher prices, when managers arbitrarily pay wages higher than the market sets. It eventually all comes back on the consumer. If (and only if) companies need to increase wages to attract viable workers and skillsets should they do so.
I wish I could upvote this with a Dominion voting machine.
A fair wage is undermined by government subsidization of underpayment by giving people welfare for not earning enough. The entire 'welfare trap' and all that.
I appreciate that you may like to move on from the issue and I'm happy to do that, but acquiescence to socialized labor is one of the very mechanisms that's destroying our civilization. It IS the bigger fish to fry and you can't fight the problem while accepting socialist tenets and ignoring the principles and causes.
Furthermore, when you start talking like a socialist and accepting that "the majority will never agree" as immutable, you start becoming a socialist. You're either fighting them or you're not.
No, its not dead and gone. I put my time in at Kroger at minimum wage after high school, went to college, got a degree and finally a career that paid me what my skills were worth. The job I did at Kroger would barely be "worth" $10 an hour these days and certainly wouldn't be considered essential in any sane world. Hell, back then the cashiers keyed in the prices because UPC registers hadn't been installed yet so they deserved more pay than modern cashiers. The only sorrow I feel for them is having to wear a face mask for so long while working.
I work a nice career job now and I am highly paid. I used to work at a gas station. The gas station was more stressful and demanding. Difference is that most people can work at a gas station, but few can do my current work. Supply and demand. That is also why increasing supply of low skilled labor via illegal immigration is so damaging. Drops the value of low skill labor.
don't forget the stress of a low skill job stays at the job, you don't take them home with you. A career job (for lack of a better word) can very easily come home with you. As a programmer I've been stressed out day and night worrying about deadlines. When I worked at a corner store I went home and slept like a baby.
Whether you worty about work at home or not is really up to you, not the job. I see what you are saying, but after clocking out (figuratively) I may take a message from a coworker here and there, but I don't think about work at all. And similarly, with the gas station, I could get called in if someone called off. It was usually something I could turn down, but still.
Salary/pay is based upon the requirements of the job, not the requirements of the individual.
Exactly, and businesses are in business to make money, not provide “living wage” jobs and benefits to employees. Likewise, landlords own and rent out their properties to make money, not to provide “affordable housing” to the community. The collapse of our society corresponds with the ever increasing number of people within it that fail to grasp such simple facts.
More that schools (intentionally) fail to teach that.
Yes, but a ‘fair’ wage is determined by the market - nothing else. 7 billion heads (the market) are better than all of Capitol Hill’s pea brains.
Honestly I get where you're coming from, the 15 min is a inflation nightmare waiting to happen, but don't take it out or demean the people who are still doing the job you're looking down on. Some jobs you could consider "easy" or "non important" can still be putting food on the table or keeping some kid's student loans at bay.
I'm not saying you're wrong but your rhetoric and your lack of respect for the starting worker, or at least people in low level positions doesn't make you any more right, it makes you look like a pompous elitist. And if you're on this site I'd like to imagine you're a hard worker like the rest of us, and not one the spoiled rich assholes that have pushed our country to its breaking point.
Take a step back, start an actual conversation, and realize that the world isn't us vs them, and that the people "scanning your bread" might have very little options in the working world, and the only job that a crumbling LA job market available really could be just "scanning bread" Californians may be damned fools but they're still human, still have kids, and still gotta eat. If you're really working class like the rest of us? Don't look down on the working class for decisions made by elitists that are trying to kill the working class.
You're just part of the problem at that point.
We're talking about pink-collar jobs that should be supplemental income for teens, college students, bored housewives, and the high-functioning disabled. These are unskilled, menial jobs that can be filled by anyone off the street with an hour of training, or just as easily be indefinitely replaced by an $200 tablet kiosk.
These people don't understand that they are not a valuable enough part of the economy that they can demand a living wage, where their off-the-street skillset is enough to support a family. The more they push, the closer they come to being replaced with a cheap computer or an illegal alien that is paid under the table.
They also don't understand that as the minimum wage is increased, the prices of commodities go up, the cost of living goes up, their employers have to downsize the workforce, or cut hours, to compensate for their new expenses, and they end up in an even worse place than before.
If you're an adult, that is dependent on a pink-collar job, you have failed and you should be looked down on, and you should feel shame. You need to spend your evenings going to a trade school, instead of netflix and chill, and get into a field that really can support your family. Is that a harsh thing to say? Maybe, but people need to be bludgeoned over the head with the truth sometimes before it sinks in.
The plastic bag is a chocking hazard. That's a hazard. She can also die from suicide after depression from a complaining customer.
Who will fund the hazard pay for the dolphins? #MarineLivesMatter
Yes
Something retarded leftists will never understand...because they are baristas or professors, or teachers (individuals with easy jobs) is that...when you get on my managerial level... Bro, the stress is out of control. It's so out of control at times that the money still doesn't compensate me.
How many 21 hour days in a row have they worked? Each day, btw, being literal-bust your ass the entire time?