Stop already-- you're giving me hot flashes, KEK. Is it so wrong that I get turned on by capable, based men? If it is, then I don't want to be right! (Superstraight Ladypede)
I watched a half-hour old cinema gem called "The Romance of Robert Burns," a fictionalized account of the Scottish poet who wrote "Auld Lang Syne" (meaning for old times sake) and the phrase about the best laid plans of mice and men. He was a farmer, and when his poems made him famous, he became a high society darling for a while in Edinburgh.
At a dinner party, he was being mocked and sneered at by the aristocracy, and then recited a poem about the superiority of the common men to the very elitist snobs who did not contribute to the welfare of humanity. My mother, a Baltic WWII refugee who was born in Europe to a family of peasant farmers, without skipping a beat, turned to me and said: "Only aristocrats with full bellies can look down on farmers." All of the food at the sumptuous dinner was produced by the toil of farmers such as Burns.
Here is a link to the scene. It is a bit tricky making out all the words, because of the thick Scottish accent. The scene runs from the four minutes of the 6-10 minutes marks of the clip: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-d3592OBBcI
(Don't worry--he makes it to the church does just in time to marry Jean before her father makes her marry some clod.)
I was once a dumb college kid that thought way too highly of myself for knowing so little real world skills. Whoever wanted men to go and work in offices really didn't do them any favors as Office Space explained perfectly with their ending.
The trouble with trying to shovel sand specially in water is that it keeps filling in. They need huge suction dredges and to deposit the sand far up on shore. Unloading that ship is a delicate balance not to stress, and break it's back, and the same could happen with several tugs pulling on it. If it springs open it will be there for several months being dismantlement. Not looking good. Expect the price of everything to go up. Again !
Are you for real ? This is far from a funny situation to be clowned at. The back-up of container ships are already creating a massive problem with many having to transverse the Horn of Africa adding thousands of miles. Many are just clogged in the canal. Those that arrive for scheduled unloading, which is now off schedule will be backed up in ports for weeks. The cost to shipping has increased by 400 million dollars an hour. The reusable containers will not be returned to their home ports for reshipping creating another shortage for months. Bombing that ship will create an even bigger problem for several months. Thousands of live animals are on some of those ships dying from lack of water, and feed. The shortages of many items will hit us soon, and will last for months. Go ahead and make jokes, but you won't be clowning in another week or so. This is a world wide disaster of a massive magnitude !
It's not a joke. You can take forever trying to unload it and dislodge it and maybe break the ship in the process or you can drop a bunch of bombs on this ship, as it's really only a question of how many it takes to destroy it, haul away what left over debris is there and you could have ships resume their shipping in a day or two.
That's the only equipment they had close to the ship. Egypt doesn't even have a portable crane that can reach high enough to try to unload, and lighten the ship. The tugs that are there had to come from only the one closer end of the canal side. Even a ship that size is fragile, and could become unbalanced capsize, or break under stress if tugged on too hard, or unloaded wrong. In the meantime there are tides, and shifting sand that lock her in even tighter. Stock up on basic necessities because this will effect everyone.
Because it's far out in the desert and transporting equipment bigger than this is difficult and timely and how much weight can you really put on a sandy shore with no trees or vegetation's roots to prevent the shore, and the equipment with it, from sliding in to the canal?
This is apparently costing them $400,000,000 an hour.
They could build entire cities along that sandy shore for a fraction of that price, never mind throwing some foundations to stabilize the ground and sending in the best equipment the world has to offer.
They should be moving heaven and earth right now to deal with this problem, and if they really wanted to they would.
Who do you think "staged" this. It effects the whole world ! The equipment they need doesn't exist anywhere near the ship, can't be transported by air, and even a crane high enough to hopefully float the ship will need to be built on site. That Canal is a disaster waiting to happen and with huge ships an inevitability. Desert storms blow massive amounts of sand into it, and those storms also blow massive amounts of sand out into the mid Atlantic.
Yes, but that takes time. I work in a time sensitive industry and transporting equipment isn't something instantaneous like in the video games you play.
This isn't command and conquer or some RTS where stuff instantly appears. Heavy machinery doesn't come down from the sky and Egypt isn't known for its first rate infrastructure. You allege a conspiracry, fine, prove it, but this is an extremely tough job moving this ship and it might take weeks as large amounts of containers will likely need to be removed first and are the bottleneck for getting this ship unstuck. You don't have accurate, realtime information of what's being done either, but are acting like a handful of photos somehow tell everything.
I know I can't operate one of those. I could learn, but the person doing that job right now is the skilled one. Much in the way that people don't have my body or efficiency to work in my factory, keep up, get stronger, and have more energy 8 hours walking out than I did going in.
Wouldn't it be easier to pull it out instead of trying to dig it out.
You could set up some sort of system to inject water into the soil and cause at least some liquefaction (to help break the suction like when your boot gets stuck in mud) while tugs pull it out.
What a decent person, doing something constructive and worthwhile like that, he deserves to get at least $15 an hour. Oh wait, I forget that jews were slaves in Egypt a billion years if you believe the stories in their own jewish comic books. OPPRESSOR! CANCEL THE PHARAONIC SUPREMACIST
How many super heavy vehicles could you put on a sandy ridge with no vegetation holding it together without it maybe sinking into the canal itself? Not to mention it's in a really remote desert and stuff takes time to transport.
That's all they got going for now is a lone bucket bucket loader. It brings to mind the saying of "pissing in the wind". Even heavy Choppers unloading one container at a time, and looking for a high tide will take months. Ships of that size need to be banned from the canal.
100 years ago we raised sunken warships from Scapa Flow
80 years ago we raised more sunken warships from Pearl Harbor
Since then we've raised whole submarines from the bottom of the ocean, and righted a half-sunk cruise ship stuck on rocks about to slide into the abyss...
But a cargo ship that got turned sideways in a canal brings the world to a standstill, and our solution is a guy in a trackhoe?
Bring in the the Somali pirates... tell em they can have this one, I bet it disappears overnight.
Or ship all these illegals over there, they want work? Here's a shovel.
love Mike Rowe.
i grew up learning different types of trade work
i can build a house, shed, barn, shithouse
i can rebuild an engine, or an entire car.
i can cut with a torch, and weld metals, using a torch, or various welding machines
i can repair small engines
i can effectively establish, or repair existing plumbing.
i can do electrical repair
so many things i've learned, and YET to learn.
HVAC, not so much, YET.
there are many other thing i have become proficient with, but being a life-long learner is probably the best.
That is a life well-spent.
Stop already-- you're giving me hot flashes, KEK. Is it so wrong that I get turned on by capable, based men? If it is, then I don't want to be right! (Superstraight Ladypede)
People like us are in high demand to repair the stuff the morons broke ehile trying to fix.
Liberal elites love to denigrate the common man, but as soon as the power goes out or a tire needs changing, they're fucking useless.
I watched a half-hour old cinema gem called "The Romance of Robert Burns," a fictionalized account of the Scottish poet who wrote "Auld Lang Syne" (meaning for old times sake) and the phrase about the best laid plans of mice and men. He was a farmer, and when his poems made him famous, he became a high society darling for a while in Edinburgh.
At a dinner party, he was being mocked and sneered at by the aristocracy, and then recited a poem about the superiority of the common men to the very elitist snobs who did not contribute to the welfare of humanity. My mother, a Baltic WWII refugee who was born in Europe to a family of peasant farmers, without skipping a beat, turned to me and said: "Only aristocrats with full bellies can look down on farmers." All of the food at the sumptuous dinner was produced by the toil of farmers such as Burns.
Here is a link to the scene. It is a bit tricky making out all the words, because of the thick Scottish accent. The scene runs from the four minutes of the 6-10 minutes marks of the clip: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-d3592OBBcI
(Don't worry--he makes it to the church does just in time to marry Jean before her father makes her marry some clod.)
Here is a link the actual poem: https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/mans-man-0/
I was once a dumb college kid that thought way too highly of myself for knowing so little real world skills. Whoever wanted men to go and work in offices really didn't do them any favors as Office Space explained perfectly with their ending.
did you bother to read the actual meme and confirmation by Mike Rowe about why "unskilled" is in quotes?
Well OP couldn't be bothered to not have most of it chopped off so.
I had to zoom in, because initially i thought the same.
And because the human race is fucking retarded. He has to clarify to stop the REEEEEEEEE.
Heavy equipment operators are far from unskilled labor.
did you bother to read the actual meme and confirmation by Mike Rowe about why "unskilled" is in quotes?
The trouble with trying to shovel sand specially in water is that it keeps filling in. They need huge suction dredges and to deposit the sand far up on shore. Unloading that ship is a delicate balance not to stress, and break it's back, and the same could happen with several tugs pulling on it. If it springs open it will be there for several months being dismantlement. Not looking good. Expect the price of everything to go up. Again !
Best to just blow it the fuck up. Just keep dropping bombs on it and you could have that cleared in no time.
Are you for real ? This is far from a funny situation to be clowned at. The back-up of container ships are already creating a massive problem with many having to transverse the Horn of Africa adding thousands of miles. Many are just clogged in the canal. Those that arrive for scheduled unloading, which is now off schedule will be backed up in ports for weeks. The cost to shipping has increased by 400 million dollars an hour. The reusable containers will not be returned to their home ports for reshipping creating another shortage for months. Bombing that ship will create an even bigger problem for several months. Thousands of live animals are on some of those ships dying from lack of water, and feed. The shortages of many items will hit us soon, and will last for months. Go ahead and make jokes, but you won't be clowning in another week or so. This is a world wide disaster of a massive magnitude !
It's not a joke. You can take forever trying to unload it and dislodge it and maybe break the ship in the process or you can drop a bunch of bombs on this ship, as it's really only a question of how many it takes to destroy it, haul away what left over debris is there and you could have ships resume their shipping in a day or two.
Japs can play Pearl Harbor 2021.
This whole situation seems staged. I mean look they got one excavator going and a few tugboats, they don't seem like they are really trying.
That's the only equipment they had close to the ship. Egypt doesn't even have a portable crane that can reach high enough to try to unload, and lighten the ship. The tugs that are there had to come from only the one closer end of the canal side. Even a ship that size is fragile, and could become unbalanced capsize, or break under stress if tugged on too hard, or unloaded wrong. In the meantime there are tides, and shifting sand that lock her in even tighter. Stock up on basic necessities because this will effect everyone.
Because it's far out in the desert and transporting equipment bigger than this is difficult and timely and how much weight can you really put on a sandy shore with no trees or vegetation's roots to prevent the shore, and the equipment with it, from sliding in to the canal?
Yeah... no.
This is apparently costing them $400,000,000 an hour.
They could build entire cities along that sandy shore for a fraction of that price, never mind throwing some foundations to stabilize the ground and sending in the best equipment the world has to offer.
They should be moving heaven and earth right now to deal with this problem, and if they really wanted to they would.
It's staged as fuck.
Who do you think "staged" this. It effects the whole world ! The equipment they need doesn't exist anywhere near the ship, can't be transported by air, and even a crane high enough to hopefully float the ship will need to be built on site. That Canal is a disaster waiting to happen and with huge ships an inevitability. Desert storms blow massive amounts of sand into it, and those storms also blow massive amounts of sand out into the mid Atlantic.
Yes, but that takes time. I work in a time sensitive industry and transporting equipment isn't something instantaneous like in the video games you play.
It's been a few days. The technology and infrastructure exists to transport almost anything that they might need to that location.
Very cute that you try to dismiss my point by trying to discredit me with false accusations of me basing my statement on video games.
Which one is it?
It takes time, or it's impossible because it's a sandy shore?
You just want to sound smart on the internet.
This isn't command and conquer or some RTS where stuff instantly appears. Heavy machinery doesn't come down from the sky and Egypt isn't known for its first rate infrastructure. You allege a conspiracry, fine, prove it, but this is an extremely tough job moving this ship and it might take weeks as large amounts of containers will likely need to be removed first and are the bottleneck for getting this ship unstuck. You don't have accurate, realtime information of what's being done either, but are acting like a handful of photos somehow tell everything.
"You don't have accurate, realtime information of what's being done either, but are acting like a handful of photos somehow tell everything."
You just ended your own argument.
Have a good day.
I know I can't operate one of those. I could learn, but the person doing that job right now is the skilled one. Much in the way that people don't have my body or efficiency to work in my factory, keep up, get stronger, and have more energy 8 hours walking out than I did going in.
Wouldn't it be easier to pull it out instead of trying to dig it out.
You could set up some sort of system to inject water into the soil and cause at least some liquefaction (to help break the suction like when your boot gets stuck in mud) while tugs pull it out.
dynamite? that ship isnt made of cardboard
What a decent person, doing something constructive and worthwhile like that, he deserves to get at least $15 an hour. Oh wait, I forget that jews were slaves in Egypt a billion years if you believe the stories in their own jewish comic books. OPPRESSOR! CANCEL THE PHARAONIC SUPREMACIST
I’ve always wanted to learn backhoe, bulldozer and forklift. Those are skills and fuck anybody that says otherwise.
Quick question: If there is such a great need for a rush job, why is there only ONE vehicle digging, and not a slew of them??? I am confusion!
Because it is a shit poor and desolate place in the world.
How many super heavy vehicles could you put on a sandy ridge with no vegetation holding it together without it maybe sinking into the canal itself? Not to mention it's in a really remote desert and stuff takes time to transport.
Hmmm. I would think at least a few more might be possible, but you raise salient points.
That's all they got going for now is a lone bucket bucket loader. It brings to mind the saying of "pissing in the wind". Even heavy Choppers unloading one container at a time, and looking for a high tide will take months. Ships of that size need to be banned from the canal.
100 years ago we raised sunken warships from Scapa Flow 80 years ago we raised more sunken warships from Pearl Harbor Since then we've raised whole submarines from the bottom of the ocean, and righted a half-sunk cruise ship stuck on rocks about to slide into the abyss...
But a cargo ship that got turned sideways in a canal brings the world to a standstill, and our solution is a guy in a trackhoe?
Bring in the the Somali pirates... tell em they can have this one, I bet it disappears overnight.
Or ship all these illegals over there, they want work? Here's a shovel.
AND WITHOUT FALLING INTO THE FUCKING CANAL
Anyone else's blood running cold that that ship will fall sideways and crush him?
No. He should just extend the arm and push the boat out.