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RememberKosciuszko 11 points ago +11 / -0

So much yes

But beware - DO NOT use blackpowder in gas operated semi-automatics! You will fuck your weapon up and it won't even properly cycle.

Also it hardly works even for blowback operated weapons but potential success is more likely in this case

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ZhaoBaiDeng 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's just dirty. There are youtube videos showing it will work. Just have to clean everything after 200 rounds or so.

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RememberKosciuszko 4 points ago +4 / -0

Say what?

Then show me some of those videos. Not being a cunt here, generally curious. As far as I read and watched the pressure curve of blackpowder is too different from the smokeless powder and that it simply won't work + it will make all the wrong places all kind of dirty.

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Oldguard08 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just buy a 45-70 if you want to use this. You're correct and should not get black powder anywhere near your modern firearms. Don't be fooled gentleman and go read about reloading and how different burn rates effect pressure. You shouldn't be able to overpressure a modern barrel with black powder but you will kill the barrel life with such a corrosive powder. Like you're saying above about how this will foul up your gas operated semi-auto's to a point of complete failure. People can have issues with cycling just because of a different grain bullet being used and the corelating powder difference to create a proper pressure level and speed. I recommend to read this book if you want to learn to reload. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/101284116/

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RememberKosciuszko 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah I know you won't overpressure modern firearm with blackpowder.

It's more likely to be the the other way around - old, old Colt Single Action revolvers for example, replicas of old cap n ball revolvers, muskets, Civil War rifles etc would blow up if loaded with smokeless powder.

What I'm saying is that blackpowder in many cases probably wouldn't even properly push the piston to cycle another cartridge because of lower pressure it generates and pressure curve being generally more flat than the pressure curve of smokeless powder.

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Oldguard08 4 points ago +4 / -0

Apologies if my reply seemed to disagree with you, I replied to your response instead of the handshake to avoid engaging an obvious bad idea and further support your position. You are absolutely correct about the black powder likely not creating a proper impulse to cycle. There is a pretty interesting history to how smokeless powder is what allowed for semi-auto designs to be a viable option along with militaries getting away from not trusting their soldiers to not just waste ammo. I'm by no means an expert, just a hobbyist. There is a cool channel on you tube that goes over this history and technicalities in extreme depth over 1860's-1919 firearms, for those who like to nerd out on weapons design and history. https://www.youtube.com/c/Candrsenal/featured

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Sl0re10 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think you can find recipes for shotguns... But it's dirty and corrosive.. So last resort.

I used a black powder substitute in my saiga 12. Worked but cleaning it all out was a huge pain.

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ZhaoBaiDeng 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just search youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THpWwy-Yxlk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LopUNq6lF2U

Not perfect but it goes bang, sometimes even more than once. If I had nothing else I would try it.

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RememberKosciuszko 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well then it's okayish for blowback operated weapons and good for revolvers/bolt action if you are willing to bear the cleanup but gas-operated semi automatics don't seem to be worth a hassle

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ZhaoBaiDeng 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's probably not worth the hassle in non black powder anything as long as other options are available.

The best use for this stuff is bottle rockets... if the KNO3 and sulfur are cheap enough.

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cook_does 6 points ago +6 / -0

This can be used for more than the old pew pew

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Bogey 5 points ago +5 / -0

Best for old school cartridges like 45 Colt or 30-30. Modern semiauto cases are designed around nitrocellulose and may not fit enough black powder to operate well.

In my opinion. I may be wrong.

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cook_does 4 points ago +4 / -0

This looks like a Cody’s lab video cut up

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Nunyo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, that's a no for me. Maybe if I end up with a musket....

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