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posted ago by HumblePig ago by HumblePig +13 / -0

I went to the grocery store the other day and noticed people (three men) walking out without masks; I was relieved because I had been wondering briefly if this was one of those stores that required them or not, and clearly it wasn't. As I went in, I got some dirty looks at the bakery/flower shop entrance from some women, all in masks. But then I saw a smiling old lady pass by without one and continued on. Other than the cheerful old lady, all women had masks, and no men did (besides employees).

I can see the logic to it; women tend to be more hypervigilant/fear motivated (defensive players) and men tend to be more opportunity motivated (offensive players), just by our evolutionary biology. Men get and build, women maintain and preserve. But I was wondering if this is a convenience sample or something you'd also noticed?

It also made me wonder if at some point it will become like Islam, where women have a social pressure (largely enforced by other women, like so many things) to cover their faces and the like, to show they have the 'right' opinions and submissiveness, and if somehow men will be exempt because submissiveness is not a highly valued trait in our sex.

Thoughts, data, anecdotes?

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TwitterIsTrash 5 points ago +5 / -0

It’s weird. As a woman, I definitely don’t feel like I relate to a lot of other women because of things like this. I think more like a guy when it comes to social pressure to do things, or fit in. A lot of women put up with so much nonsense just to not rock the boat. It’s annoying. We need to stand up for ourselves and stop trying to be liked by society

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Littleirishmaid 5 points ago +5 / -0

Woman here. Both my daughter and I wear one when we have to. Work and grocery stores only. The minute we’re alone at work or out of the store, we rip them off. We live in different states, btw.

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Littleirishmaid 4 points ago +4 / -0

And what, lose our jobs and collect unemployment?

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justwow 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lay off. The reality of going maskless 100% is really impossible in some places. You have to pick your battles.

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Miha 4 points ago +4 / -0

Around here, the vast majority of people complaining about people’s masks have been women age 30 and up, a mix of black, white, and Jewish women all of whom I guarantee vote democrat. My guess is they have imbibed the heroes propaganda and the superheroes wear masks crap (its Chicago, so real shocker). In the case that these women have boyfriends or husbands, the men will only make an issue if the women do it first (happened to me at Midway). I think many of these women feel that they have absolutely no purpose in life or just work some boring, meaningless, but well paying job, so the idea of having power over others even in the most minimal way goes to their heads. As for the men, I can only imagine what it must be like to live with a mask nazi and have to help maintain a household with one.

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HumblePig [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I meant like Islamic cultures, where women cover up their faces, more than switching full on to Islamic religion. For the reasons you mentioned, it would make sense, the pattern I thought I was seeing where more women wear them, becoming something that outlives Covid panic.

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justwow 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interestiing re: "Do the right thing" mindset. I'm especially baffled by the people wearing masks outside , alone in a car, on a bike. I see a very sanctimonious, self-satisfied sense of themselves along the lines of "I'm good person wearing my mask". Weird

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JaneHanc0ck 3 points ago +3 / -0

I've been going to Fry's grocery stores for a few months now maskless, and I think I've only seen maybe one other woman without one. Maybe. The one time I was told I couldn't shop without a mask, it was a middle-aged woman who was terrified of my real face.

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peltast 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't fool yourself. EVERY fucking body is wearing a mask, and loving it.

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justwow 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am shocked by the number of young people I see wearting masks OUTSIDE!! The weather has been beautiful here so they are parading their crazy in full sight. We're near a university (high end private) and the students seem pretty all in. Very disheartening.

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peltast 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's heartbreaking. Even the gangstas around here, I'm still fake-looking for my mask when I get to the store door, and they have them on before they even get out of their cars.

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_Sully_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's not about their health dude. It is just social conformity. The more cautious and senseless approach is gonna be the high social standard so of course women are more likely to conform to it. After all if they didn't then they won't get invited to the next pampered chef meeting. That's literally why. No other rationale whatsoever.

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justwow 2 points ago +2 / -0

Equal opportunity insanity. Last night I ate at a restaurant where if you are seated at your table you don't have to wear a mask. It is a very busy place where you stand in line to place your order.They also do a big takeout. I sat right near the cash register w no mask.

I had such a good time watching a few people visibly upset w my bare face. Seems like collective insanity: couples who are all in crazy together. Can I just say they do not look like the picture of health? Overweight, etc. if there really is Covid, this would probably be the place to catch it. So far so good!

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Prolifemom 2 points ago +2 / -0

Woman here. I have never worn a mask in our grocery store. When I go out if town to the bigger cities, I get some "bad" looks, but I don't care.

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Trilby 2 points ago +3 / -1

Nope. I haven't noticed this at all. I see as many men as women with masks on in my area on the streets and in stores. Maybe your unconscious bias/spidey sense is tricking you into "seeing" this phenomenon.

You forgot to mention that all women spoil all the fun for all men always.

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HumblePig [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's why I'm asking. I normally haven't looked that much; at this particular store, I noticed all but one woman wearing one, and no men. Unsure if it was statistically relevant, I put out a hypothesis on why it might be so, and a question for more input.

Fully open to the possibility of it being a one-off thing. Thanks for your input that it's more sex-balanced in your experience!

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Trilby 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yep. I'm not trying to be difficult, I really do see as many men as women masked up everywhere I go. But I am in a very blue city. Being librul (and therefore gullible and easily led) probably has more to do with masked-ness than people's gender.

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christianknight 2 points ago +3 / -1

women have always been a problem for their gullibility.

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