This might seem like a dumb question but should I get the vaccine?
My family is getting it now & my 3 grandparents have just got the 2 shots for it. Now my dad is getting an appointment for it soon & I told them I'm not sure if I want it or not & my dad just told me that I need to get the vaccine.
I hope to God nothing bad happens to my family for taking it (or me for not taking it). I've seen headlines of people dying from it & it makes me sad since Trump had a big role in getting the vaccines out to everyone with operation warp speed & said he fully supports the vaccines. But then I see everyone on here hates the vaccine even though we are all trump supporters. It's just total chaos, I don't trust anything. People could die because of it a few months from now & I guess some people have died right after taking it.
Did I ever say no to HCQ? If so, please point out where. Did I ever say no to other therapies? Of course not. But it's always better not to get it at all, then get it and bet on a treatment. Yes always. For any serious disease. And covid is a serious disease for a lot of people. The catch is of course the vaccine has to be safe. As of now, it is.
And telling me I'm wrong without actually saying what I'm wrong about, and then pivoting to medical malpractice deaths is a straw man argument, and isn't going to fly with me. This is CNN level stuff.
And cut it out with the cross nonsense. I never told you or anyone to take it.
Cross nonsense?
Ok now I understand you better, thanks.
You're wrong about people wanting the false vaccines to fail doc, just as I told you in my first response, which you ignored.
You're wrong to accept the false vaccines as 'vaccines' when you should know better.
Were the 'vaccines' given to people in the early fifties for polio, the Cutter labs poisons I am referencing here, were those 'safe' too?
You're wrong about a lot doc, especially the notion those 'are' legitimate vaccines.
Accuse me of a straw man YET I had already given you the thing you complained about, you don't seem to listen doc.
Y'all killed thousands with improper intubation too, wouldn't be a straw man even if I had failed to give you the datum point, which I didn't.
Yeah, you and the rest of the lying CDC and double damned corrupt government ARE forcing folks to take it, softly and slowly but surely.
The CDC has published numbers claiming 0ver 2000 people have died from the various false vaccines doc, many thousands more have suffered effects. And the worst is yet to come - you know full well the modifications done by the messenger RNA coding are just beginning, evolution. VAERS or whatever their nomenclature is.
You didn't answer when I asked how many did malpractice kill just last year doc? Not even counting the ones y'all killed over this chinese flu nonsense with toxic nursing homes and improper intubation...
I don't mean 'you' personally doc, just as a whole, Cuomo and Whitmer, Fauci and the WHO, the chinks who built this and released it with U.N. and deep state help. Y'all.
I'm going to choose to believe, based on your 'cross' comment that you just don't know better.
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Not sure what my cross comment makes me, but whatever. You're using that phrase to make yourself seem pious and above it all, but in reality it makes you seem foolish.
Bringing up prior vaccines does not invidate current ones. That's another straw man argument.
Not understanding how MRNA vaccines work and calling them "false vaccines" only shows your lack of understanding of the subject. They are true vaccines and I've explained why in this very thread. I will not rehash it, you can go back and read it. If you still choose ignorance, that's your decision.
You say you don't want these vaccines to fail yet you and most others here are screaming not to take them because something something Polio vaccines in the 50s, or gene therapy, or mark of the beast, etc. Good luck squaring that circle.
I'm not going to discuss clinical decision making regarding intubation with someone who is not a medical professional, least of all one who knows nothing about the topic at hand. Sorry, no offense. You don't understand anything on this topic. You've never had to make this kind of decision, and be glad.
Throwing the conversation to medical malpractice has nothing to do with the topic at hand. It is a diversion to discredit the original argument by destroying the straw man (med mal). Sorry, not going to work. I expect that stuff from CNN anchors, and it doesn't work for them either.
And perhaps most importantly, I never told anyone to take it. Not once. Everyone should make their own decision. I only provided information. You didn't like it. And what you like or agree with is irrelevant. Don't want it, don't take it. But don't spread BS around to fullfill your own agenda. You're just annoyed that I'm not here to pat you on the back and agree with you.
You're doing the spreading here doc, instead of presenting any evidence against my points you seek to accost my humble self, but it's ok I forgive you.
Not squaring a circle here, just pointing out reality.
Adios.
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You never made any coherent point that I could present evidence against. Nothing you said had any relevance to the covid vaccine. Just tangential points. But that was of course the entire purpose of your argument, wasn't it?
Your argument is that this vaccine is bad because some polio vaccine in the 50s had issues. Then your argument that this vaccine isn't a vaccine. Then your argument was that this is some kind of genetic modification. I explained to you that a vaccine made 70 years ago does not prove anything about a vaccine today. This is a fact. I explained in detail how MRNA vaccines work. I explained why this vaccine is a vaccine. I explained why it is not gene therapy or genetic modification. I explained everything to you. YOU chose ignorance. That IS your cross to bear. See, I can do it too. You're free to make whatever choice you want. That is something I maintained throughout. You want me to agree with you, but I can't. You have no understanding of the subject matter and you refuse to learn. Straw man arguments are fallacious and I will not entertain them. You want to show me data that verifiably makes the point that these vaccines are dangerous by linking outcomes to vaccine administration, please do, and we can discuss. But if you're going to present tangential points (70 year old vaccines) and straw man arguments (med Mal, intubation, etc) to discredit the discussion, you'll have to do it with someone else.
And stop with the high and mighty, above it all, religious shtick. It's very transparent what you're trying to do.