posted ago by VoteRepublicanAgain ago by VoteRepublicanAgain +8 / -2

This might seem like a dumb question but should I get the vaccine?

My family is getting it now & my 3 grandparents have just got the 2 shots for it. Now my dad is getting an appointment for it soon & I told them I'm not sure if I want it or not & my dad just told me that I need to get the vaccine.

I hope to God nothing bad happens to my family for taking it (or me for not taking it). I've seen headlines of people dying from it & it makes me sad since Trump had a big role in getting the vaccines out to everyone with operation warp speed & said he fully supports the vaccines. But then I see everyone on here hates the vaccine even though we are all trump supporters. It's just total chaos, I don't trust anything. People could die because of it a few months from now & I guess some people have died right after taking it.

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BasedDoc 1 point ago +1 / -0

You never made any coherent point that I could present evidence against. Nothing you said had any relevance to the covid vaccine. Just tangential points. But that was of course the entire purpose of your argument, wasn't it?

Your argument is that this vaccine is bad because some polio vaccine in the 50s had issues. Then your argument that this vaccine isn't a vaccine. Then your argument was that this is some kind of genetic modification. I explained to you that a vaccine made 70 years ago does not prove anything about a vaccine today. This is a fact. I explained in detail how MRNA vaccines work. I explained why this vaccine is a vaccine. I explained why it is not gene therapy or genetic modification. I explained everything to you. YOU chose ignorance. That IS your cross to bear. See, I can do it too. You're free to make whatever choice you want. That is something I maintained throughout. You want me to agree with you, but I can't. You have no understanding of the subject matter and you refuse to learn. Straw man arguments are fallacious and I will not entertain them. You want to show me data that verifiably makes the point that these vaccines are dangerous by linking outcomes to vaccine administration, please do, and we can discuss. But if you're going to present tangential points (70 year old vaccines) and straw man arguments (med Mal, intubation, etc) to discredit the discussion, you'll have to do it with someone else.

And stop with the high and mighty, above it all, religious shtick. It's very transparent what you're trying to do.

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CovfefeNegro 1 point ago +1 / -0

Use the VAER data, doc, which I already mentioned.

I don't want you to agree with me, I want you to Do No Harm.

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BasedDoc 1 point ago +1 / -0

If there is something there, please post it. I am more than happy to discuss. And you teach me something I didn't know, I would actually appreciate it. And I mean actual, verifiable cause and effect data that is above the expected side effect profile and ratios. None of the "if they died with covid, they died if covid" kind of thing that the media manipulation machine was doing a year ago. So if you're going to claim that it they died with the vaccine, they died of the vaccine, it's not going to work. Actual, verifiable vaccine related, significant morbidity or mortality, that is above an beyond what is expected of a new drug or treatment. I'm not going to go out of my way to substantiate your claims. I know that in the short term, the vaccine is safe. You believe the vaccine is dangerous? The onus is on you to prove it.