If you can't figure out how to get an ID, you shouldn't be voting anyway. If you can't get your own shit together you have no right deciding things for others.
If you are receiving welfare benefits, free housing, etc. you shouldn’t be allowed to vote because you’ve been accepting bribes. Most people don’t even realize for the first 60-70 years only landowners with so many cattle were allowed to vote.
I, as someone who does not own land or have much wealth at all, would happily give up my right to vote if it meant only allowing land owners to vote, as the Founding Fathers intended.
Then you are putting your own selfish need to feel important over the good of the country and yourself. The first several decades of this country's existence were the best, before they expanded the vote. Fact of the matter is that more selective voter criteria will greatly alleviate the problem of politicians buying votes with the People's own money. You being unable to accept that and help it be realized shows that you are just as selfish as all the masses voting for handouts. Your own selfishness will prevent the change you desperately seek and you are blind to it.
Edit: Also look how the current system is working. Your vote already doesn't count and merely serves to placate you and discourage you from taking meaningful action against a completely corrupted political system. Trump won the 2020 vote by a landslide so the government that universal suffrage voted in decided "fuck the People and fuck the election. We'll make up our own result, even though its mathematically impossible." Yeah, you having an imaginary vote doesn't mean jack shit. Better to keep your meaningless vote than actually fix the problem because the solution will make you "feel" less important.
Now I'm convinced you're too retarded to be allowed a vote. Just an emotional, immature, non-thinking NPC that believes what its told to believe without any critical thought. Fuck you.
Need to have skin in the game. Just being a net taxpayer instead of sponging off society is a solution some came up with that should work well. Not many own cattle today.
I think there should also be basic questions to insure people know at least something about policy positions of candidates they're voting for or against.
China did buy something like 130k acres next to one of our military bases in Texas a year ago. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, these fucks are buying up land around the world.
Absolutely true. I live in the Netherlands and, before I managed to finally buy a place last year (now would be impossible, thank fuck I got it done then!), I was renting various shithole apartments in Amsterdam, all of them owned by people I never met with Chinese names. People trying to get on the housing ladder here have been routinely and repeatedly screwed by foreign investors with deep pockets, most of them Chinese or Russian. I say kill 'em all.
Exactly. There's a good amount of people (on both sides, and in this case good is measure of amount, not morals) that own stuff. They may not own land-based property, but they own physical goods that contribute to net worth. That's not property then? So fuck people for investing where/when they can or into what they want?
So yeah, everyone should vote, even if they're idiots, so we can educate them to think for themselves.
Anyone that receives federal money should not have a say, including any organizations the person is tied to. So Gates should not be able to vote himself largesse.
There is a reason shareholders who invested massive ammounts have influence in a company's doings, while the average customer who can just choose another shop within mouse kicks doesn't.
Why does someone who has invested millions into land and country has the same political influence as miss food stamps who contributes jack shit? That doesn't make sense.
Cluck Schumer was saying the other day that getting your absentee ballot notarized would cost poor people money. Since when? The handful of times I needed a notary I went to a bank and asked and they didn't charge me a dime.
NC has a free ID program for indigent citizens. We then voted for mandatory ID for voting, but our communist governor vetoed it. They will never cede, unfortunately...
No, government shouldn't pay for an ID either. The same logic applies. If you cannot even afford an ID, you don't have your shit together enough to decide policies for others.
If you care about securing elections by voter id, requiring states to make them cost-free kills the strongest argument democrats have against voter-id laws.
I agree that voting shouldn't be easy (honestly I think voting is an attempt to make the immoral seem moral and that the entire institution should be abolished) but if it is to exist, it should at least not be easy to cheat.
Problem is, without these measures, they get to cheat and set the rules.
Implement state-paid-for voter ID then when things are back to fair(er), adding a fee would be much easier. Though it would hardly be the worst thing the government wastes our money on.
muh free abortions, muh right to smoke endless amounts of weed, muh right to be called "alphabet" title, muh free money because i'm a victim of "something" ohh an yeah, Ban Guns, Corrupt Children in School and Don't be a bigot date a Trans and let in endless 3rd world migrants so i can get cheap lawn service and car washes.
for fucking real, if you are too fucking stupid to figure out how to get an ID you are too fucking stupid to have a clue about who you should vote for and will just fall for the propaganda, time to go back to the whole needing to own land to vote as it makes you more invested in the vote.
When i voted for GEOTUS in 2020 i handed the lady at the table my license and she said “oh no thank you sir we dont need that.” I replied “oh no thats fine. I dont care if you need it or not i want to show it to you so you know i am a legal citizen and am exercising my god given right to vote.”
She was flabbergasted at the comment.
Also, i have a license so im racist then. HONK HONK
Lady: Ok. Well I will blame you when this system falls apart rapidly after the 100 years we were given the right to vote.
It's your fault I voted for mass immigration, affirmative action, and welfare that has resulted in racial tensions. It's not my fault :) It's NEVER my fault :) If you don't let me vote you're sexisssssssssss
A large amount of women are absolute morons when it comes to public policy while thinking they’re the next great political genius.
I’d give up my right to vote in a heartbeat because I realize my gender has contributed exponentially to the shit show that is Modern American political life
It's utterly ridiculous to think there's some indistinct group of minorities being disenfranchised by voter integrity laws, when almost every facet of basic life and society already requires an ID to function. Are we really supposed to believe someone who can't be bothered to get an ID, cares about voting?
The irony of their argument is about to get smashed but the leftist commie MSM media will be chirping crickets because it doesn't serve their master's grand plans.
Hey you never know I'm sure the TSA doesn't have the highest standards anyways when it comes to their victims. Be careful and know your rights. Then demand them! And enjoy your trip :)
Sky harbor? You mean? I think my first flight as a kid in like 1998 was to sky harbor in PHX, AZ. before the TSA. I miss those times. But yes that airport and denver (which is kinda strange tho) have much nicer ones than that shit hole known as LAX.
Only way I’m going anywhere near LAX is if someone bonks me over the head and drags me there, and even then there would be a fight. Haha
DIA is weird. I think Sky Harbor is weird too, it remind me of a hot wheels track. After this trip, I probably won’t fly again or at least for a while. Moving up there at the end of summer and I do not want to get one of those Real IDs.
I only go to lax to pickup dropoff family sometimes. It's a shit show. I know it's really ghetto a few blocks east down century blvd cuz that's inglewood and stuff. Just exit from the fwy and get right back on after you shouldn't have any problems. Unless you make a wrong turn or have to exit because your relative needs to pee because they're didn't want to at the airport for some reason after landing...
The sheep repeat any talking point they are told to because all they have is cult mentality. If the left argued that everyone had a moral obligation to jump off a building, they'd be splat on concrete and virtue signal that they had jumped in midair.
There are two camps: the elites, the ones in power, don't actually think that. They just use it as an excuse to prevent voter integrity laws.
The really stupid ones that eat all the propaganda from the elites without questioning it, the reason why they think that is because their overlords told them so.
They are stirring this up because more and more people are voting for populist candidates. They need to cheat. They will act like they are trying to help black people, but we have seen what their “help” has wrought over the last few decades.
I don't really like the idea of any ID being mandatory. But this is probably just a silly joke I don't want to look too deeply.
Being mandatory to own or especially mandated to carry one or present upon request. But when it comes to voting I believe if your state makes that rule democratically or through a constitutional directive then I'm more than ok with that.
Nobody can get by without ID. You aren't required to present upon request at all times, but knowing when you are required to do so makes things go better.
Of course. I'm just saying if someone wants to be left alone and lives in the woods. I don't want some dumb law forcing him to get an ID just for the sake of having one. That's all I meant basically.
the globohomo's plan is to reduce North America to wilderness. If you're already living like Davey Crockett, they'll leave you alone. Expect a visit from drones to insure your colony doesn't become populated.
The DemonKKKrat live in an absurd world, where they see racism everywhere, fuck those who believe them and their (illegal) voters.
more racism is not allowing each person to have an ID, perhaps we live in the time of slavery where the slave owners were the ones who decided for them, fuck the DemonKKKrat they are not the owners of these people to tell them what to do .
If you can't figure out how to get an ID, you shouldn't be voting anyway. If you can't get your own shit together you have no right deciding things for others.
The founding fathers had it right. If you don't own land/have a stake in this country, you don't have any business deciding who runs it.
If you are receiving welfare benefits, free housing, etc. you shouldn’t be allowed to vote because you’ve been accepting bribes. Most people don’t even realize for the first 60-70 years only landowners with so many cattle were allowed to vote.
But MSNBC says requiring skin in the game is uNaMeRiCan
MSNBC can suk deez nuts
I, as someone who does not own land or have much wealth at all, would happily give up my right to vote if it meant only allowing land owners to vote, as the Founding Fathers intended.
I will never give up my right to vote under any circumstances.
Then you are putting your own selfish need to feel important over the good of the country and yourself. The first several decades of this country's existence were the best, before they expanded the vote. Fact of the matter is that more selective voter criteria will greatly alleviate the problem of politicians buying votes with the People's own money. You being unable to accept that and help it be realized shows that you are just as selfish as all the masses voting for handouts. Your own selfishness will prevent the change you desperately seek and you are blind to it.
Edit: Also look how the current system is working. Your vote already doesn't count and merely serves to placate you and discourage you from taking meaningful action against a completely corrupted political system. Trump won the 2020 vote by a landslide so the government that universal suffrage voted in decided "fuck the People and fuck the election. We'll make up our own result, even though its mathematically impossible." Yeah, you having an imaginary vote doesn't mean jack shit. Better to keep your meaningless vote than actually fix the problem because the solution will make you "feel" less important.
Not up for discussion. Take away my vote and I'll burn your house down.
Now I'm convinced you're too retarded to be allowed a vote. Just an emotional, immature, non-thinking NPC that believes what its told to believe without any critical thought. Fuck you.
Buy real property then.otherwise yes.too many people with no steak voting.
I had lots of steak, then I ate it.
Need to have skin in the game. Just being a net taxpayer instead of sponging off society is a solution some came up with that should work well. Not many own cattle today.
I think there should also be basic questions to insure people know at least something about policy positions of candidates they're voting for or against.
We all learned No Taxation Without Representation growing up. Well, I hope we all did.
Well, the converse also needs to be true.
No Representation Without Taxation!
As you said, you need to have skin in the game before you get a say in how things are run.
Most people own land and property. What is your excuse?
Most? Got data?
I think China owns our land and cattle now.
China did buy something like 130k acres next to one of our military bases in Texas a year ago. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, these fucks are buying up land around the world.
Absolutely true. I live in the Netherlands and, before I managed to finally buy a place last year (now would be impossible, thank fuck I got it done then!), I was renting various shithole apartments in Amsterdam, all of them owned by people I never met with Chinese names. People trying to get on the housing ladder here have been routinely and repeatedly screwed by foreign investors with deep pockets, most of them Chinese or Russian. I say kill 'em all.
because cattle are destroying the ozone layer, your vote shouldn't count.
Exactly. There's a good amount of people (on both sides, and in this case good is measure of amount, not morals) that own stuff. They may not own land-based property, but they own physical goods that contribute to net worth. That's not property then? So fuck people for investing where/when they can or into what they want?
So yeah, everyone should vote, even if they're idiots, so we can educate them to think for themselves.
Idiots voting may have something to do with how we got here.
Net taxpayer is a different restriction, that makes a lot of sense IMHO.
You dont own cattle? Wtf are u doing with ur life sir
Get it together?
And then Bill Gates buys all the land in America and we're right back where we started.....
I actually agree with having to have a stake, although land ownership might not be the best metric.
He still only gets one vote.
And the 2024 election is won by Kamala Harris by a unanimous vote; 1-0.
Most popular President ever!!!!
Lmao Bill Gates has the deciding vote and he picks Kamala instead of himself. That sounds about right. That guy is a cuck
Until he gives the statutory minimum amount of land to a significant number of his cronies.
No worries him and his big balloon are turning off the sun now.thanks Sweden.
Anyone that receives federal money should not have a say, including any organizations the person is tied to. So Gates should not be able to vote himself largesse.
Well nobody should be receiving Federal money in the first place. That stuff is reserved for the States to decide internally.
At least that's how it's supposed to work.
IMO the poll tax is one of the few forms of taxation that is somewhat moral.
If we eliminated all other forms of taxation and prevented their future introduction....
Then funded the government entirely by poll taxes, I can guarantee the government would get a lot closer to the vision of its founders.
There is a reason shareholders who invested massive ammounts have influence in a company's doings, while the average customer who can just choose another shop within mouse kicks doesn't. Why does someone who has invested millions into land and country has the same political influence as miss food stamps who contributes jack shit? That doesn't make sense.
They argue that the cost of acquiring an ID is prohibitive.
The same people who want to government to pay for everything else.
If there is anything the government should pay for, it should be those documents they require for travel and voting.
And if there is ANYTHING that should require ID, it should be voting to control our 5 trillion dollar budget and the biggest military in the world.
Cluck Schumer was saying the other day that getting your absentee ballot notarized would cost poor people money. Since when? The handful of times I needed a notary I went to a bank and asked and they didn't charge me a dime.
Irrelevant.
NC has a free ID program for indigent citizens. We then voted for mandatory ID for voting, but our communist governor vetoed it. They will never cede, unfortunately...
No, government shouldn't pay for an ID either. The same logic applies. If you cannot even afford an ID, you don't have your shit together enough to decide policies for others.
If you care about securing elections by voter id, requiring states to make them cost-free kills the strongest argument democrats have against voter-id laws.
I agree that voting shouldn't be easy (honestly I think voting is an attempt to make the immoral seem moral and that the entire institution should be abolished) but if it is to exist, it should at least not be easy to cheat.
Stop negotiating with these bad faith actors. Where the fuck is the line they have to cross when we get our shit together and just say NO!
As long as we legitimize the idea of the State we will always be fighting over how to best administrate it.
Eliminate the State and you get rid of these bullshit conflicts.
Problem is, without these measures, they get to cheat and set the rules.
Implement state-paid-for voter ID then when things are back to fair(er), adding a fee would be much easier. Though it would hardly be the worst thing the government wastes our money on.
Or we tell Democrats to fuck off and WE do what's good for our country for a change.
Getting rid of the State would be the best thing we could do for our country.
State and Country are different how?
The government is not the people. Government exploits the people.
We are not the government, and the government is not us, it is an opposing force.
A country if it is united at all is united through culture, not coercion.
Many States make ID free
Pretty much sums up every leftist I know. Life in shambles but wants to tell us how to live.
muh free abortions, muh right to smoke endless amounts of weed, muh right to be called "alphabet" title, muh free money because i'm a victim of "something" ohh an yeah, Ban Guns, Corrupt Children in School and Don't be a bigot date a Trans and let in endless 3rd world migrants so i can get cheap lawn service and car washes.
Of everything you listed, the right to smoke as much of whatever you want (and can afford) is the only thing that is an actual right.
The rest all require imposition on others.
"BUt tHeY cANt AFfOrD iT!"
I did an internship for section 8 back in college. They literally pay for state IDs along with the bus pass to get to the DMV.
Ttthey dont pay ,we pay.
Well yeah. That's beside the point though.
for fucking real, if you are too fucking stupid to figure out how to get an ID you are too fucking stupid to have a clue about who you should vote for and will just fall for the propaganda, time to go back to the whole needing to own land to vote as it makes you more invested in the vote.
When i voted for GEOTUS in 2020 i handed the lady at the table my license and she said “oh no thank you sir we dont need that.” I replied “oh no thats fine. I dont care if you need it or not i want to show it to you so you know i am a legal citizen and am exercising my god given right to vote.”
She was flabbergasted at the comment.
Also, i have a license so im racist then. HONK HONK
Lady: Ok. Well I will blame you when this system falls apart rapidly after the 100 years we were given the right to vote.
It's your fault I voted for mass immigration, affirmative action, and welfare that has resulted in racial tensions. It's not my fault :) It's NEVER my fault :) If you don't let me vote you're sexisssssssssss
You've described women to a T
A large amount of women are absolute morons when it comes to public policy while thinking they’re the next great political genius.
I’d give up my right to vote in a heartbeat because I realize my gender has contributed exponentially to the shit show that is Modern American political life
It's utterly ridiculous to think there's some indistinct group of minorities being disenfranchised by voter integrity laws, when almost every facet of basic life and society already requires an ID to function. Are we really supposed to believe someone who can't be bothered to get an ID, cares about voting?
Wait for the - You need to provide vaccine paperwork to leave your house vs You need an ID to vote.
It's coming. They've laid the groundwork for that already. The Brown Coats are here, just have to know how to look for them.
The irony of their argument is about to get smashed but the leftist commie MSM media will be chirping crickets because it doesn't serve their master's grand plans.
we are truly on the road to unopposed FASCISM.
Because they're the ones lying dead in the street?
WOC here. I’m thinking of accusing TSA and American Airlines of racism when I go on vacation Thursday.
Do they actually search you extra compared to others? They're probably trying to fondle you
I’m a wildebeest so no.
Hey you never know I'm sure the TSA doesn't have the highest standards anyways when it comes to their victims. Be careful and know your rights. Then demand them! And enjoy your trip :)
Well, I’m flying out of Sky Habor, friendliest f’n airport in America.
It’s true. Such a nice airport. Granted I only been to DFW, DEN, EUG, and Hartford-Jackson. Holy cow, is Hartford-Jackson a real sh— show.
Sky harbor? You mean? I think my first flight as a kid in like 1998 was to sky harbor in PHX, AZ. before the TSA. I miss those times. But yes that airport and denver (which is kinda strange tho) have much nicer ones than that shit hole known as LAX.
Only way I’m going anywhere near LAX is if someone bonks me over the head and drags me there, and even then there would be a fight. Haha
DIA is weird. I think Sky Harbor is weird too, it remind me of a hot wheels track. After this trip, I probably won’t fly again or at least for a while. Moving up there at the end of summer and I do not want to get one of those Real IDs.
I only go to lax to pickup dropoff family sometimes. It's a shit show. I know it's really ghetto a few blocks east down century blvd cuz that's inglewood and stuff. Just exit from the fwy and get right back on after you shouldn't have any problems. Unless you make a wrong turn or have to exit because your relative needs to pee because they're didn't want to at the airport for some reason after landing...
You should try JFK
If you don’t need an ID to vote then we don’t need an ID or vaccine card to fly.
Why do leftists think that minorities can't get IDs?
They don't actually think that. It's just a smokescreen for easy voter fraud.
No, they do. The ones at the top know it's BS, but the rest of them think this.
The sheep repeat any talking point they are told to because all they have is cult mentality. If the left argued that everyone had a moral obligation to jump off a building, they'd be splat on concrete and virtue signal that they had jumped in midair.
There are two camps: the elites, the ones in power, don't actually think that. They just use it as an excuse to prevent voter integrity laws.
The really stupid ones that eat all the propaganda from the elites without questioning it, the reason why they think that is because their overlords told them so.
untermenschen. That's the word you are looking for
Because they tend to be really really stupid.
minorities have ID, you can't get Govt. welfare without it...the left's arguments are based in idiocy, racism and lies.
Idiocracy
They are stirring this up because more and more people are voting for populist candidates. They need to cheat. They will act like they are trying to help black people, but we have seen what their “help” has wrought over the last few decades.
The GA bill gives free ids to people and increases the amount of polling places so that no one waits too long. So racist 🙄
But somehow these smoothbrain voters will figure out how to get a vaccine passport
Liberals think very lowly of browns/blacks. Cant use computers, cant get ID, cant vote at a station.
Pretty much all the globe supports institutional racism... i cant think of another civilized country besides the US that has such lax voting laws.
I just go with it now. Yeah, I'm a racist. BFD. Fuck off and die.
White supremacist!
Be prepared for that baseless accusation too.
So no background checks, eh?
I'm black and I approve this message
I do as well
I don't know anyone who doesn't have ID
I can't believe this is even an idea that the human beings (on any side) entertain. I mean wtf? 🤦
LoL so funny
Yes.
Glad I made you laugh mod. Thanks for the pin.
I don't really like the idea of any ID being mandatory. But this is probably just a silly joke I don't want to look too deeply.
Being mandatory to own or especially mandated to carry one or present upon request. But when it comes to voting I believe if your state makes that rule democratically or through a constitutional directive then I'm more than ok with that.
Nobody can get by without ID. You aren't required to present upon request at all times, but knowing when you are required to do so makes things go better.
Of course. I'm just saying if someone wants to be left alone and lives in the woods. I don't want some dumb law forcing him to get an ID just for the sake of having one. That's all I meant basically.
Related tangent:
the globohomo's plan is to reduce North America to wilderness. If you're already living like Davey Crockett, they'll leave you alone. Expect a visit from drones to insure your colony doesn't become populated.
But COVID Vaccine IDs......
The DemonKKKrat live in an absurd world, where they see racism everywhere, fuck those who believe them and their (illegal) voters.
more racism is not allowing each person to have an ID, perhaps we live in the time of slavery where the slave owners were the ones who decided for them, fuck the DemonKKKrat they are not the owners of these people to tell them what to do .
I too stupid to figure out how to get vaccinated. Eyes jes bes uh dumb ole cracka man. Whutchu mean eyes needs uhn eye-dee, muthafucka and shit?
What If I am self employed? Or what if I retired early?