I've seen some very cringe worthy scenes in media recently of black people fighting Nazis, from WWII. One that really stands out is in Westworld where a black woman is stuck in something like the Matrix and is fighting WWII Nazis.
This really boggles my mind because black people had very little to do with WWII.
I've come to realise that when you talk to a leftist you really have to take into account that they have near zero education. Though they talk about WWII a lot they hardly actually learnt anything about it at school.
It's important to be prepared for this and you have to be ready to talk to the left like children, in a way you wouldn't normally think to talk to people and you have to assume that they don't know things you would expect people to normally know.
Whenever a leftist brings up the war and tells you things like did you know Hitler killed six million Jews you have to be ready to fill in for huge gaps in their knowledge. They don't know that anyone else was killed in WWII. They think it was only Jews sometimes.
Hitler's war killed at least 60 million white people. Roughly 80% to 95% of all casualties. The Jews that were killed were also predominantly white Jews. A large proportion of those who died that were not white were more likely to be closer to it.
It was predominantly a Northern Hemisphere war spanning the belt in which white people reside from Europe through Russia to North America back to Europe. It was called a World War in great part due to the inclusion of countries with world wide empires. While that had some involvement it was relatively small and not the primary field of battle. The exception being the European war merging with the Oriental war (Japan's conquest of China).
If you think your school will teach children about WWII think again. They will teach them a very selective history consisting of largely irrelevant minutiae or falsehoods. They will say that the victims were all minorities or that it was white people against minorities or that it was white people against the world. It was a war primarily of white people against white people and white people were the biggest suffers.
You have to be prepared to teach it to you children. In fact you cannot trust schools. You must home school your children even if you send them to school.
I think a huge portion of the Jew hatred here especially, is historically uneducated people who are manipulated by leftists into this singularity. Yes the Shoah was appalling, but so too were the hundreds of millions of deaths directly caused by Marxists and Maoists. The left's whole narrative is built upon lies!
There's a bunch of people from various subcultures that pop their heads out around here. A lot of them are wrong in their intense focus on the Jews but it's not helped by people who also do the extreme opposite and censor legitimate discussion about the Jews who are as over protective of them as the left are the Muslims.
It's almost a Streisand effect or a counter balance effect. The left just use Jews for leverage and don't really care about them at all, it's just all about using them to emotionally blackmail people.
"You can't support your nation because Hitler said he was supporting his nation and he killed 6 million Jews and you have to feel extra sorry for the Jews because of the Holocaust, therefore you simply must vote for the anti-American party."
The left involve other people of other races in arguments between other white people all the time. They basically pull them into their conflicts.
The left also skirts over any details that's incompatible with their narrative. One of them being that a lot of Jews are white. You don't get quite as many now as you did. For obvious reasons.
Smartly stated Fren.
the jews the jews?
the so called jews you are talking about are not jews
they may have jewish descent1 but is a christian who supports gay marirage and abortion and trans puberty blcokers a christian? FUCK no
so stop saying so called jews who are globalist and socialist are jews!
judaism is as free market capilism as it gets
Christians and Romani were also murdered.
But they were never informed about that.
The war wrecked Europe. Very few were left untouched by it. What was horrifying to see at the time was not only the loss of life. That had already been seen in WWI.
It was the height of humanity, civilisation destroying itself. People saw it different then and didn't take it for granted. Building up civilisation was difficult emerging from more recent difficult times.
It was horrifying not only to see the loss of life but everything that people had spent their lives to build up being destroyed. Entire cities carpet bombed and levelled. Sometimes ancient cities.
So many things lost forever and not by natural disaster or the tides of time but through deliberate human action. A catastrophe of the nations that were best at creation and destruction turning in on themselves to destroy all that they had created.
For many people this was most traumatic. Cities weren't as easy to come by or create back then nor infrastructure nor the many works of man.
The destruction only went so far but at the time you were face with the prospect of your entire country or home and city, everything being raised to the ground and reduced to ruins within a mere matter of years leaving only the traces as if of some ancient long lost civilisation like the Romans.
If it had gone much differently that could have happened.
What's fascinating to look at are people's random vacation slides from the 1950s. I keep buying old collections and stumbling on trips to Europe and almost every one you see a few shots of places still bombed out and wrecked from the war.
I grew up in poverty in the 80s and 90s. We didn't have a proper playground. Instead the foundations along with some odds and ends of some bombed out buildings from WWII were left exposed for us to play around. They did add a climbing frame though.
That climbing frame always twists my sense of reality. It always had paint flaking off (the top of the rungs always bare metal though). Always a pile of it underneath. As if it magically grew back or something.
Were You Bred for War?
Iraq: A Decade of Hell
The True Costs of War: Stefan Molyneux of Freedomain Radio speaks at the University of Toronto
The Truth About World War I: The Hidden History
The Romani in Eastern Europe never recovered. They live in destitution and abject poverty. Look into Lunik IX.
Kind of like inner city Detroit without the Nikes, IPhones, and free food.
They teach nothing about Bolshevism, which was a Jewish-led movement, both in Russia and in the German KPD, against which Germany fought a civil war in 1918. There was a very real Jewish threat in the form of communism. Bolshevism’s philosophical, political, and military leaders were predominantly Jewish. Over 60 million died of forced famine, or torture in Lenin and Stalin’s gulags. The details of the torture and slavery are documented in Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago. Many millions more died in forced fighting against the Germans. Over 2 million Russians died in the battle of Stalingrad alone. The Jewish control of communism is always hidden, especially in the era of white-guilt over Jewish death in WWII (and yes, Jews have entirely monopolized the sympathy market for WWII. Tough luck, 50 million other white groups.)
Nazism was a reactionary populist movement against Bolshevism, and the rapacious treaty of Versailles which enslaved the German people to France and England for two decades. A desperate people will eventually rise up and crush their oppressors or die trying. Let the American communists take note.
Also, never, ever, ever let them take away your guns, and stockpile ammo every chance you get. That is the meaning of Sunday Gunday.
What they don't cover is that there were some legitimate concerns about Jews. It didn't justify the hatred and especially not their brand of collective justice but they didn't pluck it out of thin air.
The relationship between Jews and Europe was very complex. A lot of things hail back to the Roman empire and its collapse. When the Roman military left Britain they needed another power to maintain law and order. They brought in the Anglo Saxons as mercenaries but they just took everything over and then basically walked in.
Muhammad was a bandit realising hang on a minute all the legions are gone and now all the land and commerce is unprotected. So he started a movement of them just going in and taking everything which snowballed.
When Europe fell into the dark ages they lost a lot of the expertise on running civilisation that the Romans brought. The Jews were very experienced in civilisation and came in filling the void making them a critical component in society and making them in the middle of a lot of things when it went wrong due to their exclusive domination over various areas.
They weren't always helped. They would be given exclusive licence over many things people saw as the source of many problems on societies. For example, in one place if I remember correctly the Jews were given special permission to sell alcohol or operate certain venues, almost like the Native Americans and Casinos, so when the drunk came home or made a mess it was because of those Jews selling stuff that shouldn't be available.
Jews brought a lot of things with them that Europe didn't have both good and bad businesses and were also less inhibited by their religion in certain respects to operate such places. Your religion might say you shouldn't engage in this or that practice but it doesn't necessarily speak to others.
I remember in the 2008 crisis Russel Brand nattering on and other occupy movement types about the bankers and they need to be brought to justice. Well I might agree with people who actually did something wrong need some kind of reigning in but imagine how this can go out of control if all the bankers were nearly all Jews? Imagine if your husband is spending all the family income on gambling and all the gambling venues are Native American run plus many neighbours have the same problem. Imagine the same in the midst of an economic collapse where people don't know where the next meal is coming from.
Imagine if the country is mostly run by whites, with many unhappy people or many problems and you have many people with the same such instincts that were expressed most strongly in the Nazi party? The hilarious thing is when all the positions of power are dominated by diversity the problems won't go away and they'll still have something to complain about, they still wont be able to get laid or rich (same thing really), and they'll then be cursing diversity.
Bolshevism was a part of it but one part of many leftist movements vying for power in Germany after massive destabilisation. Hitler was leftist but a bit more sensible and pragmatic as well as willing to draw from both sides on occasion. The CCP is based on Nazi Germany. Hitler had the basic sense to see his other left wing comrades were really just his worst competition most likely to attract people away from him and also that they were going too far with their communism.
The CCP allowed some greater degree of private enterprise when they saw directly and learnt the hard way it was just not feasible not to. They still however like Hitler maintain control over everything. A company or person is free until they inconvenience the party or so long as that works best for the party.
I think one thing people don't want to admit about Hitler is that it wasn't just like everything was going fine until this antichrist came along. Hitler was the result of failure after failure by the establishment. What I don't think many people will grasp is that as bad as Hitler was the other choices were often as bad or worse.
Frankly the whole six million thing doesn't add up when you examine the evidence.
Putting aside that it's Jewish for a second, why would you not question the narrative for a bit when you realize that in an era where you didn't have computers and the internet on your phone it would be relatively easy to invent facts? When you see that the six million bit was used to get Britain to finally give up Palestine to become a Jewish state as they'd been after since at least WWI?
I'm not saying there weren't camps or nobody died. I do believe the numbers are inflated about 10-fold and the cause of most deaths is from the Allies cutting supply lines resulting in no food and no sanitary goods going in.
Now throw in the fact that somehow even questioning anything Jewish people say has become somehow anti-semitic. How does that happen? Why is one group somehow above criticism?
Really gets the old noggin joggin. And not like joggers do it.
Personally I don't think it matters. I wouldn't treat a Jew any differently if it did or didn't. I don't believe in morality based on the exact specifics of history. What if I were born in a timeline without the Holocaust? Would I then be incapable of being morally equal to people who live today having such a thing in their past?
I believe the Holocaust happened, it's absurd to say that in such a brutal war the Nazis were really super mega nice guys and treated Jews like royalty. The number isn't certain but it is certain to at least be a fair few but I don't see that it matters.
Six million is plausible in spite of the counter arguments. There are certainly liars but people lie about anything and everything where there's no truth to it or some truth to it. Much of the evidence would have been destroyed and recreation necessary to portray memories which is a bit of a problem but a natural one.
If it doesn't effect you when it shouldn't then it would disenfranchise liars in the first place and we'd all live in a much better society for it.
The messed up thing about the Holocaust is that it's not just the Jews who may have some interest in whether it happened or not. The allies and soviets both had extreme political reasons to both amplify it and deny it.
The attempted indoctrination of my grandchildren in our (Australian) public school system is my biggest concern. It's not just the revisionism they have to endure (especially pertaining to history) but the added pressure from "teachers" and conforming peers when they question this horse shit. This'll follow them through life. It bothers me greatly.
It's happening in the UK in flagrant violation of the law. I happen to have had access to teaching in the UK. Including access to the private teaching portal for the UN. Most schools in the UK are for some bizarre reason UN schools. The material teaches communism and brain washes kids.
These kids are four. One of the cartoons (videos) I saw really shocked me brain washing kids with all kind of happy feel good things to get them on board with the effort to contribute to the world as a global citizen, to feel good about your rights given to you and empowering you from the UN (they're not, they're from the British government, in fact the UN copied most of them from us, like the US original docs somewhat derive from us) and to help make a word where we take everything we produce and share it evenly.
It's definitely communist infiltration and I've seen it first hand. It's not even hyperbole. I saw it up front with my own two eyes compelling children to take up the cause of globalism, communism and to be a subject of the UN. I'm going to see if I can work with the operative to extract all the material and leak it.
However we've seen kids record in class violations of the education act, put it on youtube then they, not the school get punished for reporting the crime.
I've observed many more violations of the education act with left wing propaganda in schools both those publicised over the internet and with my own access to the education system.
You're absolutely right to be worried. Do you have anything like this in Australia?
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/56/part/V/chapter/IV/crossheading/politics
My great grandmother in the 50s went into school and beat the living daylights out of the male teacher for screwing with her kid. Personally, I'm starting to think I want to return to that method of solving such problems. Nothing else works. The consequences of going to prison are not as bad as what they're doing to kids.
Yep, Australian curriculum is bullshit. My kid is learning nothing.
I asked my kid once about what they told her in school about the Holocaust, she mentioned black people as victims of the Holocaust before she mentioned Jews.
If I knew then what I knew now we would have home schooled.
Even the smart ones. I have a friend, currently living in SF, with whom entire discussions have been derailed because I said something about something one of Obama’s czars had done. She got in a huff about the word czar like it’s not a thing. This has happened twice since she became an adult. If you don’t know basics of the world around you, you’re not qualified to have an opinion on it.
Homeschooling is very time consuming and will eat into your "career" arc...We home schooled three boys, and I can say this: If you love your kids, it's worth every pain point!.. 🐸🇺🇸
It's more important people know who Hitler was and what he actually said and did.
They need to know which bits of his policies were sound and which bits were dangerous and why.
Black Americans has little to do with WW2, but not the French and British colonies.
They have little to do with anything except the destruction of any place they are in great numbers.
hitler executed socialism to perfection!
there is no truer example of socialism in human history!
but the left started lying about him not ebing a socialist! soon they will tell you the holocaust was against millions of trans people! trans where brought to the brink of extention that is why for a few years there where few to know trans people
The same way people feel about the Jews now because of the Holocaust so don't treat them equally and let them get away with more or dismiss complaints injuring them by not holding them to normal standards is also the way people treated Germany sympathising with its loss of WWI.
People here saying look at what Jews are doing its so bad but the reason they're doing it and we're not is because we let them get away with it but not us. This is called setting people up for failure. I have learnt it the hard way sometimes.
I once had a guy who was a liability and I kept fixing his mistakes. I realised I was hiding them covering for him but too late. If I'd let his first mistake play out and the worst happen that would have been the end of it but instead I prolonged things and only made it worse until it exceeded my capacity to cover for it.
We didn't go to war with Germany because they were picking on minorities. However they didn't cross the line conclusively until they crossed other lines as well. It escalated quickly. If you're going to cross on line into Poland and they're going to do the worst possible thing to you might as well cross them all.
From what I've seen when we went to war with them is the point they went full on, on every front (in a manner of speaking). Hitler didn't start by killing Jews in any meaningful way (certainly not wholesale). There was ethnic cleansing and fleeing but not any great deal of killing. The vast majority died after the declaration of war.
Some people do ask the question if we didn't go to war what would have happened? There's a strong implication that Hitler went full out on the Jews out of spite for now showing appeasement. Personally though I do not believe in bowing to terrorism even if it means they'll kill all the hostages. They'll only do it again and again.
On behalf of Great Britain and its allies we offer a formal apology to the hostages. Sadly, it had to be done.