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froggos 1 point ago +1 / -0

Philosophically, I'm a libertarian and okay with cross-border flow of labor. The problem however lies in the reality of the situation and the fact that en masse, they aren't coming here for purposes of labor, but rather to suck off of our myriad of welfare systems. Money, housing, food, school, clothing.

Hell, it would violate every moral principle I have, but on some level I really can't blame the illegals for thinking "Hey these big fucking idiots in the EE.UU. pay us to live there, give us housing and ebt, subsidize our bus fares, look after our kids all day and even send food packages home. And those idiots even let us illegally vote in their elections so we can vote for more free stuff. We'll just go back home when the teat runs dry."

And that's the reality that big L, party Libertarians just seem to not even want to look at let alone explore. That the illegals are participating in an economically disastrous system and further expanding socialist control and economic destruction. Not to mention, in this case of the TX L Party, just sugarcoating over the fact of Chinese slave labor and political prisoner forced labor, which a real libertarian would want to eradicate fucking everywhere.

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k_the_c 2 points ago +2 / -0

That old Milton Friedman quote: can't have open borders and a welfare state. It's one or the other.

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froggos 1 point ago +1 / -0

you cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state

Yup. One of Friedman's best one liners.

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k_the_c 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do away with welfare and I bet demand illegal immigration drops by half. The other half can be handled by law enforcement.