When the Uniparty's tech, media, academia, and government wings are on a full court press to get you to do something, chances are it's not even remotely in your best interest.
Welp, they've been going on for a over a year now about staying healthy is best defence, ya know, eat right, exercise, take your vitamins esp vitamin D....Just kidding, no one suggested doing anything other than to be afraid of everthing.
The reason I know its all fake is because of the Vit D issue. They kept us locked us all last summer and arrested us for going to the beach. Plus no one talked about Vit D and your immune system and how everyone who died had low Vit D
TO DIE. They wanted as many people dead as they could manage. They even banned HCQ BECAUSE it was so effective. We are ruled by unbelievably evil people.
They banned HCQ and killed healthy people by putting them on ventilators. Remember the push for millions of new ventilators? What a con. How can people not see what happened?
I’m pretty sure most ventilator cases lead to respiratory infections. I’m no doctor but I read that somewhere. Then when you come off the ventilator they have to hop you up on antibiotics.
Wait? But why would Trump ban that if HCQ worked? The FDA revoked approval in mid-2020. That was six months after he directed them to allow emergency authorization. I thought he took something else when he got it?
The President of the United States is just a figurehead. The real powet lies in the unelected immovable bureaucracy that is free to do what they want in spite of what our elected Officials say.
Exactly! They don't want us to be healthy, they want us to keep paying the Healthcare industrial complex our wealth. Sicknesscare system in America, not Healthcare. And all their bitching about a virus is transparent when you see it like this.
96% of all hospitalizations we're vitamin d3 deficient, but no lock yourselves up wear a mask and avoid your fellow man like the plague, instead of you know build a healthy immune system by something vitamin d
I urged all my friends to get out in the sun during the lockdowns, but very few left their couch. Modern Americans spent WAY too much time inside in front of screens even before the shamdemic and the lockdowns gave people an excuse to double their laziness.
The media is also suppressing mask and respiratory related bacterial infections. When have you seen ONE story about the negative health effects on wearing a mask all day long or re-using one day after day?
Yeah their entire plan was contradictory. If anything tell old people and those with preconditions to be careful. But that's it. It's not the governments job to close everything down.
Soaking up the FL sun all week on vacation. Of course it’s Disney so I’m wearing a mask like a cuck-face. Salt water, sweat, sand and a mask are very healthy for your face...
Going to sea world today! And with a military discount I get the whole family in free once per year. With that kind of admission, I’m going to splurge on some Budweisers.
I've been listening to David Gornoski a lot lately. He does a talkshow that analyzes current events through a Christian lens. Not the typical boomercon lens but more about how woke-ism and state worship is a type of counterfeit Christianity that's been slowly replacing actual Christianity.
Anyway he's always saying the American diet is garbage. Way too much omega 6 vegetable oil and refined carbs. Lack of exercise. Lack of vitamin D from staying inside all day. Most of the covid deaths were with comorbidities directly caused by poor diet and lifestyle.
If Dr. Fauci really cared about our health so much he'd be getting on stage and telling people to clean up their diets and go for walk outside.
But no they want to keep selling us industrial sludge (big soy and big corn subsidies) to shovel down our already fat faces, pump us full of patented pharmaceuticals (gotta be patented can't use generic drugs like HCQ or ivermectin), close down the gyms and lock us in our houses so we can't even get any exercise.
Literally everything the government does promotes the opposite of good health.
But suddenly we need to wear the mask and take the "vaccine" for our
good?
Yep. I have other chronic health conditions that Bill Gates could easily remedy with all his money, but all he and the government want to talk about is vaccination. Hmmmmm 🤔
Because people wanted the vaccine, and he wants to attribute his name to the rollout. It’s a dangerous move tho. If the vaccine is actually harmful, the media has months of footage of Trump saying how great it is and that he’s responsible for it
Even the EU is talking about 4k death and 162k injuries from the vax and that's just what's being reported. Who knows what the 5 year outcome will be for the mRNA experiment on 100M people?
We fellow MAGA patriots are real. The millions of Americans who love America and want our nation restored? That's for sure. Everything else? Who knows? I don't understand why Trump didn't go nuclear and stop the steal.
Frankly, I don't really care about the vaccination per se, but it's because its so politicized and the medical experts and politicians are obviously lying, that I'm not getting the vaccination. Every single fad or new thing in my life that started this way, ended up being a bust, sometimes catastrophically that I'm not going to believe all the cards are on the table. heck, real medical doctors have lost their jobs for prescribing HQC and now we know it works.
Anyways, COVID is disease that claims the fat and the really old. I'm healthy and middle aged. I'll take my chances. Also, I'm not saving anyone's life by being vaccinated or by wearing a mask. Viral diseases aren't eradicated and shut down by any of this quakery nearly as I can tell.
I wouldn't suggest anyone take it because all three are considered experimental - hence why it took emergency powers to pass them through the FDA. It's the biggest thing about Trump's presidency that I'm disappointed with.
Do you think it's possible that Trump was secretly impeached in early 2020, but they kept him as a figure head (and pretended the impeachment failed) in order to keep us from using the 2A? It would explain why he stopped acting like a president when Covid began.
If Trump is letting the deep state push him around, he needs to fucking grow a pair and speak up already. He is near the end of his life anyway, and there are probably 100 million of us who support him. He should not be intimidated by their threats to censure or prosecute him for doing what’s necessary to save the country.
No, I don't think so. I think, based on what I have read, that he is a germaphobe: no presidential dog, doesn't like to shake hands, etc. They got him in his weak spot with the virus and he caved. I would like to believe this is why he went with the vaccines too, but I honestly think he used it to push his popularity politically to better his chances of winning the presidency. I hope. But it failed.
You've hit on a few of my biggest talking points. So far, the only thing anyone can really tell me that this thing is supposed to do is lessen my symptoms.... umm. pass.
I don't need a "vaccine" shot to lessen my symptoms. I'm a solid healthy individual. And they can't even lie this time and say "it helps others," because the obvious response is "you say I can still get it AND give it to other people. So how does it help anybody else other than myself??"
And yeah - all the cards are DEFINITELY not on the table.
I'm just against this politicized, experimental mRNA therapy for which the corporations pushing it have no liability, the FDA hasn't approved it, and there's no data on long term effects.
That said, I'm still going to vaccinate my children for polio. I can be persuaded why I shouldn't. Show me some evidence and reasons I shouldn't. I do believe vaccines carry risks.
This experimental synthetic mRNA therapy is something entirely different. I trust my instinct. When dishonest politicians are pushing this hard for it, it can't be good.
I've always thought that anti-vaxxers were kooks, and to a degree that still holds true.
I also think the "nanobots" conspiracy theories regarding the Covid vax are horseshit. Ten to twenty years from now, sure that could be a possibility.
There's an overwhelming, all-in-unison voice of pressure coming from sheep on the left and right telling folks to get the vax. It's coming from everywhere, just like it did back in 2016 when they did not want Trump to get the nomination or conservative vote in the election.
I thank those fools and evildoers for letting me know their positions, rest assured there are many more that will reveal themselves in the near future.
I never liked how the "anti-vaxx" crowd was treated. I also never really gave them any merit before COVID. However, I hated how they seemed to be treated as insane just for asking a question.
Now for not taking the vaxxx and being skeptical, I'm being treated as they were all along. I get it now and should have been more receptive to the conversation.
Guess I'm just saying, sorry it took me so long to wake up and smell the tyranny. But I'm here now so let's ask questions together and accept any brother's and sister's who still haven't woken up but will.
Yep, I knew something was up when I was still on reddit and the shills were obsessed with calling people "anti-vaxx". This was pre-China Flu, so I thought it was just stereo typical "religious people are bad" propaganda. Now I think it was priming people to hate people that don't get the gene therapy.
From what I understand the anti-vaxxers believe the "adjuvants" (toxic substances added to traditional vaccines to irritate the immune system and kickstart antibody production) are harmful.
But vaxxers say the doses are too small to cause any harm.
I haven't researched it enough to have an opinion.
There are many different arguments, but some of the main ones are:
-vaccine makers have blanket immunity from lawsuits so they do not have an incentive to make vaccines safer
-certain genetic differences make people more susceptible to vaccine injury than others, but vaccine policy does not take this into account
-there are no long term safety studies for lifelong health outcomes and vaccine makers refuse to conduct them
-vaccines contain contaminants and allergens that can cause autoimmune disease or death
The basic idea behind adjuvants is this:
When you use a dead virus in a vaccine, your body will not respond to it because it’s dead.
An adjuvant will irritate your immune system and force an immune response.
However, when vaccines include hundreds of ingredients and contaminants including egg, yeast, soy, or even human tissue, how does your body know what is “causing” the irritation.
Many people believe the skyrocketing rates of autoimmune disease are caused by adjuvants creating an unintended immune reaction.
There is also speculation this led to the rise of peanut allergies in the 90’s. Genetics alone doesn’t explain it, as it happened all at once in many different populations.
No, its inflammatory response to certain foods. Modern day Standard American Diet is complete shit with the amount of gluten and dairy, which are both highly inflammatory. Sugar too, modern diet is filled with so much sugar.
That is why certain diets can cure inflammatory diseases. For instance, if you have arthritis, just go keto or some anti-inflammatory diet.
Some vaccines used to be grown on peanut proteins. When injected in vaccines with an adjuvent it trained the body to have an immune response to those proteins in some people. That's why peanut allergies skyrocketed. Before that it was rare.
The increase of allergies is something I've been trying to figure out. There's theories it's the vaccines, GMO/pesticides or not giving it to children young enough. Its definitely not normal that we're all getting allergic to everything.
Agreed. I think there's a minority of anti-vaxxers who are kooky, crystal-wavers, but the media likes to focus on them because they make questioning vaccines look stupid. In reality, most vaccine skeptics want to know ingredients, why they're there, why companies have limited liability, what the long-term effects are. They simply want data and research and the ability to ask questions
It's more than concept, or a one-off creation. The mass-commercialization and production necessary to reliably produce something at that scale is enormous and requires extensive suppliers, tooling, materials, as well as the human capital to produce it consistently and reliably across a variety of locations. That being said there is no way this would remain secret.
We really do have much to be concerned with this technology, it's just not in this current wave of vaccines. I'd wager that if such a dark future exists, they would actually leak the nano-bot thing about the current vaccinations just to make people look like idiots. Once they've eliminated questioning of authority, they can continue work towards future implementation knowing that no one will dare question it again.
we do have wireless charging capabilities already. You have phone charging "pads" so it's not a far reach to think that you can have chips recharge themselves via to current waves from wifi-like emanations/5g or just have responders like airdrop (when your phones are in close enough distance, they can transmit data to each other).
Nano bots have been around for at least ten years. Research Morgellon's.
All the downvotes come from people who haven't researched and clearly don't know what they're dealing with - or from visitors wanting to hide what might be true.
Singer Joni Mitchell has it, and she's not a loony.
The CDC tried hard to disclaim that it exists, but the people who have it and who are believeable can show evidence. Years ago I debunked the CDC's claims, which were based on distorted (fake) data about its non-existence.
Nanobots are possible: MIT has been testing nano bots since 2018. Look at Elons company neurology for similar technology. Nanobots also answers the question on why bill gates has taken on vax as his philanthropy, which is way outside his computer realm. Look at the vax manufacturer websites... Moderna calls this vaccine an "operating system".
Being in science, I have always had much more respect for anti-vaxxers and flat earthers that are honest and can admit when they're wrong than those who blindly follow duh science.
You can't verify absolutely everything in life yourself, that's a Herculean task, but it's entirely fair to question vaccines and other treatments - even with justified vaccines to treat actual, dangerous illnesses, there are questions like what preservative agents in there that may be bad for your health or even the risk of death (can't quite recall anymore, but I think it was Spanish flu where the vaccine had a chance to kill you outright, but that chance was lower than from the Spanish flu so many people chose the lesser risk).
And look at Thalidomide, the science wasn't good enough to know the reasons for the side effects back when it was made, but it was recommended for treating morning sickness and resulted in deformed babies. If you just blindly trusted the 'science' and pharma congrats, you could kick up a fuss but the damage was done.
I'm not touching the covid vaccine and my education included both genetics and pharmacy - not as much as specialists on those fields but still a substantial amount. But my reasoning is simple, covid is pure hysteria (like the msm does for every pandemic), only with this hysteria there isn't even much of a mortality rate to go with it and these vaccines are untested long term and being pushed too hard for me to trust the motives.
I'm not going to take a vaccine for a disease almost as 'deadly' as the yearly flu.
my reasoning is simple, covid is pure hysteria (like the msm does for every pandemic), only with this hysteria there isn't even much of a mortality rate to go with it and these vaccines are untested long term and being pushed too hard for me to trust the motives.
I'm not going to take a vaccine for a disease almost as 'deadly' as the yearly flu.
Bingo. We're living in a period where people cannot see the forrest for the trees.
Every single time the deep state is up to something, they put out lots of disinfo onto the internet to try to confuse those of us who oppose it. That's why you have ridiculous garbage theories like that the WTC wasn't hit by aircraft but rather by missiles, that there are nanobots in the coof vaccine, etc. It poisons the well and makes us all look like idiots if any of us start believing their disinfo.
The term anti-vax is an intentionally made up pejorative to smear and silence logical criticism of vaccine safety, regulation, injury and the money, motivation and individuals in power behind the industry. Isn't is convenient how we got an almost identical pejorative term -- antimask -- out of the covid situation? Questioning vaccines and electing to get them or not, or put them into your children, is not demonic, by any stretch. It is a human right decision.
The OP sounds anti-vax by saying "Under no circumstances will I ever be vaccinated" It would sound more reasonable to say until some personal threshold is met which depends somewhat on each person's own tolerance for risk.
Because it doesn't sound like a reasoned position when stated this way. He sounds exactly as the MSM portrays republicans when they pretend democrats are the party of science, and that sure as hell doesn't help republicans win anything.
RNA is a single strand (DNA is double stranded) nucleic acid chain that is used to catalyze cell reactions and synthesize proteins. Different kinds of RNA exist, like mRNA, tRNA, and rRNA. mRNA is produced by our bodies cells after being transcribed from DNA, and when working in conjunction with tRNA and rRNA, mRNA is used as a translator tool for the creation of proteins. mRNA, as it’s used in these vaccines, is to replicate the spike protein, which is the appendages on the surface of the virus. The idea is that the mRNA will be taken up by our cells, and the protein synthesis process will occur, producing the spike protein. Our bodies don’t know what the spike protein is, so it triggers an immune response.
Take a single semester of college biology and the technology and processes behind it make complete sense. I understand how the vaccine works and why. That said, I still don’t trust it, and it’s not because I believe the nanobot conspiracies, or think an mRNA vaccine will alter your DNA (in short, it’s not possible). I don’t trust it because of
The amount of politicization behind the vaccine, and Covid at large. This is the most important factor for me. Between thinly veiled threats of restricting freedom of movement, to threatening to take children from parents who refuse to comply, the vaccine and its rollout seems more about public control than public safety. This cannot be overstated enough, given the “conspiracy” of vaccine passports and other tracking measures.
The fact that mRNA vaccines have previously yielded no results. Sure you can chalk this up to the billions spent on research, but I find it hard to believe that a vaccine was able to be produced in record time for a virus that previously didn’t exist, and have claims of 90-95% efficacy. Which leads me to...
Efficacy of the vaccine - it doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid, or spreading Covid if you catch it, but rather reduce your symptoms one you have it. It reduces the severity of the condition. Why is the vaccine being pushed so hard when it doesn’t even stop Covid?
The skipped human trials. There was a soft trial period of a few weeks, but no long term study on the long term effects of the vaccine. It received emergency authorization use by the FDA, which is basically a Hail Mary hope that the vaccine works and if it doesn’t, oh well.
The legal immunity from the companies that produced it. Let’s say there’s long term side effects that haven’t been uncovered yet. The government granted the biotech companies legal immunity so they can’t be sued for malpractice or mass harm caused by the vaccine.
Much of the conversation about Covid is “trusting the science”. Well if we trusted the science, masks wouldn’t be mandated (they don’t work unless the mask is rated to stop viral particles), and we wouldn’t have locked down economy in the name of a pandemic. We’re on day 380 of 15 days to slow the spread. The pandemic seems to be a Trojan horse for trusting the policy makers, who wave their Ministry of Truth wands to alter the information to fit whatever their current narrative is.
All in all, the vaccine seems to be more of a bandaid fix for a virus we still don’t have control over, and the government’s authoritarian approach and year-long blitzkrieg against personal freedom makes me believe the vaccine is the vehicle by which they implement communism. Full societal control, and weed out the dissidents with the vaccine’s rollout.
My thinking is A.) Covid isn't serious unless you are old or otherwise unhealthy, and in that case you already have a high rate of mortality without an incidental covid infection so the real impact of the virus isn't clear. We know they've been inflating the numbers and seriousness of the virus for a year now.
And B.) I'm skeptical that gene therapy vaccines won't include some other unintended changes in our bodies as the long term side effects are unknown. It's entirely possible that someone in a position of power inside the government or a medical lab could intentionally add other nefarious changes "for our own good" without telling us. Real dystopian science fiction scenarios where the elites feel like there's too much toxic masculinity and attack testosterone production in men, as one example. Or that dropping birth rates in the West are still too high so they intentionally lower fertility.
While I think the likelihood of those those scenarios are low and I feel like Alex Jones for even bringing it up, they are more likely to happen than me dying from the coof. Our government has a history of treating citizens like guinea pigs with things like Tuskegee Experiments or MKUltra so I'm not comfortable giving them the power to make medical decisions for me.
It doesn't help that it's being pushed relentlessly by one of the most obnoxiously rich people in the world, who happens to be a eugenicist and child of the former leader of Planned Parenthood, who seems to have made decreasing global populations one of his life's goals.
Combine that with the fact that he's the same asshole responsible for the abomination that is the Windows Registry, and I'm out.
Exactly the chance that the government doesn’t have my best interest in mind is far higher than the likelyhood i or anyone close to me dies from the coof
I straight up believe that if you don't vaccinate your kids with old school vaccines, which for all the evidence that they can potentially cause problems, the benefits of them so far outweight it that it's worth it and if you don't, I would outright have trouble trusting your judgement (hypothetically).
Yet with this shit, I can't shake the feeling no matter what that there's something wrong with it. I don't personally think they would intentionally fuck it up, they need their taxpigs to milk more but it was rushed so fast and is being rammed down our throats at light speed that I don't trust it.
When you realise that the same people that are pushing for it are the EXACT same people that have been wrong about literally everything else they push on us for the past 5 years (at least) it makes it very clear that there's something up with the "vaccine".
All the people pushing hard for us to take the vaccine are the most prominent anti-Trump radical left losers, including the media, the Democrats, all the big celebrities that have been famously anti-Trump.
It could be harmless, it might not have anything nefarious in it. But it was rushed, it does have side effects, some of which are noticeably worse than if you just caught Kung Flu itself and if there was something intentionally dangerous about the vaccine, it would be one of the most effective ways at distributing such a massive change.
Yeah, all the leftists pushing it make me hesitant as hell (but hell, even right wingers are pushing it, the politicos anyway).
I've personally got cancer (in remission yay), but I still don't want to take the vaccine even if the virus could fuck me up. It's a pretty bad comorbidity but I also had a fairly mild cancer, for cancer anyway (testicular). Even with all of this, it's still sketchy to me even though I probably should trust it. You know you've got a vaccine that people don't trust when a fucking cancer "survivor" doesn't want to take it.
Congratulations. Both me and hubby are cancer survivors, but we had the type of cancer where they just steal your organs and hormones.
I am not getting the shot because the government is involved, and I remember the swine flu shots from 1975 and people keeling over dead. I dont get the flu shot either...and have NEVER had the flu.
If the government and media and politicians didnt lie to us all the time, I might feel different. But this is too much like Hitler directing us to the gas chambers
Always hard to feel like a cancer survivor when all I've had to do is have surgery to have a ball ripped out and no chemo (luckily, here's to hoping my next scans go well!), but I guess I technically count.
Yeah it's funny, if the government didn't lie so much I'd be more willing to take this vaccine, but because they lie so much it's hard to trust.
I might not trust their judgement, but I absolutely will defend their right to refuse to the death. Short of recklessly polluting by dumping toxic waste into public waterways, you are not responsible for my health, and I'm not responsible for yours. Without an active element--an action you directly perform that causes me to come to harm--I am guilty of no crime.
Liars, no. Perhaps mistaken. I'm on the fence, personally. Most of the people I've met who actively distrust vaccines have seemed a little off, themselves. But I firmly believe in their right to refuse any medical treatment, whether or not I believe it's the right call.
The system is bursting a the seams with kids being diagnosed with autism. Many of them are toddlers or younger. Too many for schools equipped to handle them to take on. Drooling, pissing, unable to feed themselves autistic kids who never do anything but watch the same youtube video three thousand times in a row day after day.
Tell me, buddy boy -- what's causing the explosion in autism if not for the explosion of vaxxes being jammed into kids at exceptionally early ages?
I am unsure about the vax/autism connection, but you're 1000% right about the massive rise in autism. What bothers me is the lack of interest in the gov't and universities researching WHY and just leaving these grieving parents with too bad, so sad. To me, that screams something is very wrong somewhere.
My wife is a preschool teacher and has some theories - over diagnosis, way too much screen time, maybe some of these babies would not have survived infancy 50 years ago -- but I am quite sure the vaccine theory has been thoroughly disproven.
“Thoroughly disproven” by the CDC, who destroyed evidence of an actual significant link between the MMR vaccine and autism in black male children. There was a whistleblower at the CDC. Trust the CDC at your own risk.
I get not trusting more recently approved vaccines, that seems to be where all the anti-vax stuff stems from (possibly because they've made mistakes as society degrades), but it's not trusting vaccines that have been used for decades that tends to get me.
I still don't think they should be forced either way, if that's what they believe, then that's what they believe.
Much of their concern is that vaccines used to be made in the USA and now they're mostly made in Chyna or from components made in Chyna so there's a legitimate concern that Chinese goods just might not be pure and healthy.
I'm not anti-vax in the slightest. I've never bought into the narrative that vaccinations cause autism or any of the other more wacky ones.
But this one is an experimental gene therapy for an illness no more deadly than a run of the mill flu. What we have is a test that pops positive long after you recover and from other viruses as well and a revised standard for death certificates that makes covid a "catch all" cause of death.
If it were really that deadly, none of the bullshit would be required, we'd be able to see it with our own eyes, instead of via distortions by the media.
So for this one I am solidly anti-vax. Too many lies involved.
I had it too, it definitely wasn't like a cold or the flu.
It'll be a year in April...and my smell and taste has NOT returned to normal. I can't stand a LOT of things still.
Yeah, it's definitely a unique virus.
I agree with the people saying it isn't much worse than the common cold/flu, but it's definitely its own.
That said, the PCR tests will pop positive on a lot of other viruses, so I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+ of positive cases were something else. I almost doubt covid exists en masse today, honestly.
I was merely going off my take on it. Two of my coworkers had it. One thought she had allergies...no one else in her family got it...but she's crazy and probably isolated herself. Other ended up in ICU...but she's overweight, diabetes, beat stage 4 cancer not too long ago, and then ended up with pneumonia too...but her husband didn't catch it from her and he took care of her. My husband got it too, but wasn't sick...had a dry nose? Weird since I had a runny nose. But I've also lost my smell and taste...with it only partially coming back now at a year on April 10...and I'm miserable. I also had migraines, sinus pressure that wasn't my sinuses according to an ENT dr and neurologist. I just want to go back to normal myself. It's infuriating. But this is no way makes me want a vaccine, or to ever take a test again. Esp since mine wasn't shoved up my nose, it was self administered and there's not reason for that...and I wouldn't do it. Also yeah the tests are shit. I didn't want to go get tested, boss wanted me to. We have a lot of old people here...She also got a false positive when she was trying to have a procedure done and freaked out...it's ridiculous.
This is what I told a previous person who asked about my smell...in case you are curious.
Oh god yes, I've always had a great sense of smell. This is the worst thing ever. It's made me super miserable, and my husband. I choke on a lot of smells, and want to vomit...But I'm not a big vomit-er so I just make the retching noise. I can smell partial smells of some things. Some things I still cannot smell or taste. Corn based cereal tastes like straight up corn, that's it. Some fruits or veggies taste like soap. All meat cooking smells the same to me, and it's actually nauseating too. Eggs smell and taste rancid. Can't stand anything with garlic and onion, it has a toxic bitter smell that makes me want to vomit...which unfortunately is almost everything. Husband got it, didn't lose anything. Neither did my two coworkers. I could go on and on. I started keeping a journal so I can go back and try things and see if they change. What's crazy is now my nose can pick up the partial smell of garlic and onion from far away. We went over to a friends for crawfish...and I could smell it at the curb. Husband smelled nothing, and his smell is normal. Mine was always stronger before all this happened...so guess maybe that is the case now too...with the partials I can smell. I've also been to a doctor, ENT dr, and neurologists as I faced other issues I think linked to this. Migraines, sinus pressure that wouldn't go away. Turns out my sinuses were fine. Had a ct scan done of them, and a MRI...nothing wrong. So they GUESS it is just my smell coming back which it's been stuck in the slowest gear for probably 4+ months now. It only started coming back maybe 7 months ago. It was gone completely for 5 months...but I still had taste AT first.
How terrible. Has anyone done research on “the losing taste and smell” side of
Covid .
the enjoyment of eating is taste and smell. I can’t even imagine.....
Hope it improves for you.
🙂
I've read a few articles about it, it's eerie how someone else describing what it was like, it was like me describing it. On the plus side, I have lost weight. I didn't have a lot to lose...but it's helped me keep it off. I really don't think I'll ever go back to normal 100% just because I probably won't forget how all the shitty foods taste. Fried foods and anything with fake shit in it tastes the worst. More natural stuff is bearable.
Hey, this sounds weird. But this was the best explanation of the no taste thing and it made me confident on something
A few years ago, I took Zicam and it did the EXACT same thing to me, where plain water tasted like asshole and a bunch of other weird taste/smell related things
I found out it was because either my cells couldn't uptake zinc or couldn't remove it from the cell.
Maybe try taking Zicam, or looking into how to reduce zinc levels. I would love to hear the results
Dude, thanks. I will try.
I tried zinc, and a bunch of other vitamins for weeks with no progress. I mean at this point I've tried a lot...so as long as it's not some vaccine, or a mask...I will try.
Also was it the tablets, fruit drops, spray, or what looks like a damn nose swab? Lol.
I heard it's a lack of zinc. It didn't happen to me when I got it so I can't comment. Zinc is part of my daily vitamin intake though so I never had to check.
In my experience I lost it COMPLETELY for 2 weeks. It gradually came back but even still, 3 months later, I have days where everything is just bland. Breakfast everyday is still bland. Very strange. I take a high dose of zinc everyday so I am just rolling with it.
Oh god yes, I've always had a great sense of smell. This is the worst thing ever. It's made me super miserable, and my husband. I choke on a lot of smells, and want to vomit...But I'm not a big vomit-er so I just make the retching noise. I can smell partial smells of some things. Some things I still cannot smell or taste. Corn based cereal tastes like straight up corn, that's it. Some fruits or veggies taste like soap. All meat cooking smells the same to me, and it's actually nauseating too. Eggs smell and taste rancid. Can't stand anything with garlic and onion, it has a toxic bitter smell that makes me want to vomit...which unfortunately is almost everything. Husband got it, didn't lose anything. Neither did my two coworkers. I could go on and on. I started keeping a journal so I can go back and try things and see if they change. What's crazy is now my nose can pick up the partial smell of garlic and onion from far away. We went over to a friends for crawfish...and I could smell it at the curb. Husband smelled nothing, and his smell is normal. Mine was always stronger before all this happened...so guess maybe that is the case now too...with the partials I can smell. I've also been to a doctor, ENT dr, and neurologists as I faced other issues I think linked to this. Migraines, sinus pressure that wouldn't go away. Turns out my sinuses were fine. Had a ct scan done of them, and a MRI...nothing wrong. So they GUESS it is just my smell coming back which it's been stuck in the slowest gear for probably 4+ months now. It only started coming back maybe 7 months ago. It was gone completely for 5 months...but I still had taste AT first.
Very interesting. Thank you. I have always been a supertaster and supersmeller. Cant stand the smell or taste of food. Except sweets. Casseroles forget about it. I make them for hubby. Onions. Just NO. Cant stand the smell of cantelope, bananas, apple peelings. And perfume. Just yuck.
Hope I get covid so I can be normal for once in my life. I live in fear of being invited over to someone’s house for dinner. Of course that was when I had friends. Before covid sorted the idiots out for me.
Im intrigued by this. Because some I believe did catch the Chinese virus. But it was so weak...Only those who had the symptoms probably truly had COVID.
The sick part wasn't even bad I'd say. I first had a sore throat, runny nose, cough. Lost my smell first. Had taste for a while. After I got over the "sick" part, I had migraines, then sinus pressure. Which according to doctors, it was probably just my smell coming back. Which it's pretty much stuck in neutral and has been about 4 months or so. Here and there I smell something a little different, but most shit smells the same partial smells. And I can't stand the partial smell of garlic or onion which is in everything. I've started wearing a nose plug so I don't feel like vomiting. Husband had a dry nose, nothing else. Being stuck at home was worse than the sickness...And then going back to being active.
No one rammed anything up my nose. I had one test in April...self administered because they treated us like we had the plague. Passed it to me on a 6 ft table. No need for it to go up your fucking brain. I definitely won't have another test, but my boss wanted me too because at the time it was early on and we have old people at my job...I was just going to stay home without the test at first
Up your Vit D, wear gloves when you shop and pump gas, and at the first sign of a cold take some Colloidal Gold which kills viruses. I can go years without catching a cold
Right? So you’re immune but what matters to these idiots more is whether you can certify that you got an mRNA injection, even if it does not produce an immunization response.
There's a large number of us that already had it but didn't go in for treatment to leave a paper trail proving we had it. If we acknowledge that natural immunity is as good as (or better) than the vaccine, then they'd have to open up testing so people can now go and prove they already have immunity and can get a pass on the vaccine. If we prove exactly HOW MANY people actually got the virus even though everything was destroyed due to the lockdowns, then the fact all of this was political would be out in the open and proven ineffective at stopping/slowing the spread. They CAN'T let people have the option of testing themselves to see if they already had the virus and didn't even know.
My theory is that we've BEEN at herd immunity levels for some time, but we just didn't know it. I think it was Stanford that crunched that data at a month or month and a half in by looking at places like Cali and NY and came to that conclusion which got ignored.
Yep. Friend said her insurance company was saying they wouldn't cover any side effects because it was still considered an "experimental" drug, probably not the only insurance going that way hence the "emergency approval" by Feds. Can't let anything stop their stampeding the sheep into China's pens.
One of my friends is based af and is going into nursing. He doesn’t want the rigor of medical school but wants to be involved in healthcare. Don’t discount male nurses as all being beta soy cucks
Yea I'm sure what those guys were smoking, I've known a of nurses, and there a certain assumptions you might make like we lost our minds, but saying my wife is gay is just weird.
I'm for chicken-egg vaccines. They have been tried and tested for ages.
I'm not on board with these human cell or mRNA vaccines until the FDA proves that they have created a full set of tests to address new risks involved with the new vaccine production methods.
As of now, they still haven't properly tested any human cell vaccines, which include flu vaccines. They literally don't know if the vaccines are being contaminated with retroviruses. I would not expect HIV to be one of the retroviruses present, but retroviruses are very nasty but almost impossible to spread, since you would need direct transmission of plasma in such a way that preserves viroids. But the vaccines do it.
Chicken egg vaccines are safe, though, because you can't be infected by chicken retroviruses. Also, the chicken egg is not a great place for retroviruses to propagate, unlike a living, propagated human cell.
Lmk if any of you want the science behind this stuff. I used to be totally pro-vaxx until this last year when someone raised the concerns about the human-cell-line vaccines. I dug in, and the science is significantly lacking on safety for the new vaccines. The new vaccines since 2008 COULD scientifically cause autism, and the FDA doesn't even deny the potential causality in their science reports.
Polio, small pox, diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DTP), mumps-measles-rubella (MMR), hepatitis A & B, and chicken pox. Since small pox has been eradicated worldwide, it may not be available today.
Meningitis I left off, but it has become required for public schools and many organizational activities. It is still an old school-style vaccine, though.
These are the tried and true vaccines, for diseases you really don't want to watch your kids going through.
Yes, chicken pox is on there. As a kid disease, it's for those most part a harmless annoyance. That said, once contracted, the same virus hibernates within the body and resurfaces decades later as shingles - a very painful disease.
Do your research. Some of the update old school vaccines may still contain components that bring allergies, or have possibly questionable ethics involved. Bear in mind there is a LOT of disinformation out about vaccines - particularly on the issue of the use of aborted fetal material in vaccines.
Do your research starting with these vaccines. Engage critical thinking. Weigh whether certain issues are worth watching the child have coughing fits serious enough to cause brain damage (pertussis), or be at risk for sterility if mumps is contracted as an adult, for examples.
In the end, this has to be an intelligent decision.
This is what I was looking for...someone said something to me too about keeping your kid vaccinated against the normal old school stuff. But I do wonder if they may change it or something. I know I would want to research it too before hand.
Sorry for the Reddit link, but sources and scientific studies are cited.
I know this user was banned, so hopefully all the links work. If not, they hang out on conspiracies.win and I bet they’ll answer questions if you have them.
Thanks for that. Currently do not have children, but want to plan just in case. So figured I can look into now, and update in the future. I mean I had mine as a kid, and never had any issues...but I know that's not the case with everyone. And some are worse than others. I mean technically I probably should have come out all kinds of fucked off...but I didn't.
I had to get a smallpox vaccine before deploying to Afghanistan. Apparently the Soviets lost a sample around the time they were ceasing to exist and never found it.
This is the only reason to use foresight on small pox - not that it is the existential threat it used to be, but that there are still stocks of the old virus - in weaponized and non-weaponized forms - that exist for "research purposes". Those stocks in the hands of an irresponsible lab (say, like the L4 lab in Wuhan) pose a very real threat to world health today.
Supposedly there are 2 locations in the world where there are live smallpox samples, one in the aforementioned siberian lab and the other in the US at the CDC in Atlanta. But there are speculations about other countries having secret samples. In 2014 6 vials of smallpox were found in a corner of a storage room in Maryland belonging to the FDA that had taken over the location that had been a virology laboratory in the 1950s. They belive they were simply over looked when they were moving out. It was immediately turned over to the CDC and moved to Atlanta. There was nothing said about it being alive or a dead samples. In order for the sample to stay alive for that long it would have had to be in a oxygen free container. But how do we know it hadn't been 7 or 8? What if the person who found it didn't know that it was labeled by the virus' real name, variola, and simply dumped it somewhere that caused a sort of outbreak? How many more accidental misplacements are waiting out there to be discovered?
Yea, this is a good list (except they don't vaccinate for smallpox anymore, and haven't for some time). When I was younger, the list was shorter still, but that selection covers the actual relevant items and skips literally a dozen additional extemporaneous vaccines.
This ^ doctor treats patients affected negatively by vaccines. The primary ones being people who travel a lot and missionaries because the so many vaccines cause health problems.
Vaccines in kids cause inflammatory responses that cause autoimmune diseases. The vaccine schedule for kids today is very large.
You’re welcome to do your own research, but this is what I’ve discovered.
How long can you wait to vaccinate them? This is a question that I have not fully fleshed out. IMO, they should be vaccinated only once they start weaning off of breastmilk.
For the first period of a baby's life, the mother is critical to the baby's immune system. The mother's milk provides the antibodies that the child will need to fight off disease. But if you vaccinate the baby, the mother never gets the viruses and therefore cannot make antibodies to help fight it off. So if the vaccine is contaminated, the baby will be left to fight it off from it's own weak immune system.
I'm guessing that a baby can wait until the age at which they can go to a nursery or preschool. At that point, they will have their own immune system and be much better off in taking vaccines. But I know someone who supposedly got permanently sick from a vaccine around the age of five. If you have a family history of issues with your lymph nodes, the heavy metals in the chicken egg vaccine may too big of a risk at any point in childhood. The heavy metals in the chicken egg vaccine were the biggest risk, and I can see how they would cause lymph node issues, but not something like autism, unless you gave it to your newborn in the first few months of life.
Remember that the doctor works for you, and you can always politely delay or decline medical treatment. I bold politely because they may get frustrated with you, but it's critical that you remain calm but firm in case they do anything against your wishes and you need to sue them.
Here's my limited analysis so far. I have a science background, but I'm not a medical professional, so please consult a doctor you trust with any decisions you are going to make:
Avoid the flu vaccine for sure for kids unless you have a family history of a weakened immune system. Kids do not need flu vaccines. Old people and immunocompromised people do. The flu vaccines are always human cell line. There is no other way to make them.
The MMR, IPV, and DTaP vaccines are very important to take before they interact with other kids in public. Ask your doctor for the brands of these and whether you can get them as chicken-egg vaccines. They were around long before human cell line vaccines, so they have chicken egg variants. However, if you have a family history that makes you particularly susceptible to heavy metals, you might want to go with the newest variant of the vaccines.
Varicella vaccine is not important for young kids. It's chicken pox. Chicken pox is not very harmful to children. It's harmful to adults who have never had it. You can get this vaccine later. Or better yet, you can intentionally infect your kid with chicken pox like we used to do before the vaccine.
My problem with this, is pertussis in the very young can kill them, regardless of the mother, and it is heartbreaking to watch. There was an outbreak in Northern Australia 7ish years ago that brought up this problem. Transmission was commonly found to be passed from siblings, but unless you want to isolate your baby the full first year of its life, you may need to rethink your timeline. That said I’m not against spacing it out a bit more than it currently is, just that some of the more prevalent ones should be had sooner not later.
As a white male I believe it is my duty to allow minorities and women access to any vaccine that would be allocated to my privileged self, you're welcome
FIRST it’s not a vaccine. It’s experimental gene editing that has never been tested by the FDA and there is NO liability for the pharmaceutical companies. Animal testing was halted because of the severe allergic reactions to the animals. It also destroyed the animals immune system.
I’m not even really that against the vaccine. I’m not getting it out of a sense of stubbornness. I’m not getting the vaccine just to spite these liberal fucks telling me to comply. I’m not injecting myself with an experimental substance that doesn’t even prevent you from getting the diesels, only minimizes the effects, and that hasn’t been fully tested yet.
However, we've got a big problem in that the majority of people are so scared shitless that they don't want to go back to normal life until everyone is vaccinated and the majority would likely vote to force the treatment on the rest of us. If we don't come up with a real solution here, we're probably all gonna get fucked over. I propose the following compromise as a path to get everyone to develop antibodies:
Everyone should be given the opportunity to be given the vaccine---OR---the opportunity to become infected with Sars-Cov-2 and go into isolation for 14-days while recovering from COVID19
After either taking the vaccine or recovering from natural infection, that person should be considered to have enough immunity to go back to life as normal with absolutely zero restrictions on their freedoms.
The vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated.
Unless their vaccine doesn't work. In which case they shouldn't be pressuring me to get a vaccine they admit doesn't work, for a virus that is extremely NON-DEADLY to me, with a great number of unintended consequences and health risks.
I agree, but I expect it will take many years or possibly decades to actually educate people on that. Meanwhile, they will empower the sociopaths in government to force vaccinations on us all to the benefit of pharma chemical corporations. The next best alternative might be "proof of antibodies" instead of proof of vaccination.
Sars-Cov-2 is now endemic. We're all gonna get exposed to it eventually. If we were to organize chicken pox style "COVID parties" and rapidly get it over with, the enemy would immediately lose all their power.
Oh yeah. And I'm probably gonna get it if I haven't already. I have no problem with that. I might even attend a covid party voluntarily. Allowing the government mandate it is a hard line though, imagine what sort of abuse they would use that power for, if they felt they owned your body.
They created the fear. They could use the same tactics to dispel it. It would destroy their credibility, but forced vaccination or infection isn't the right answer. Strange, how you think it is, given your user name.
I'm ok with getting the wild virus and recovering naturally. There are plenty of treatments that make the process safe and relatively easy for everyone.
Governments around the world are controlled by big pharma and are gearing up to enact vaccine passports. Imo, we ignore that at our peril. Time to get proactive.
If we don't come up with a real solution here, we're probably all gonna get fucked over.
Our only solution for the vaxxers is this: "If you even try to fuck with us (for being unvaxxed), we will kill you." And sadly, we're gonna have to establish some credibility, since we've been all talk and zero action lately.
We need to stop calling it a Vaccine. It is not a Vaccine. It doesn't contain an attenuated virus like all other vaccines do. It is a gene therapy injection made to manipulate your DNA.
I am not anti vax, but the more you punish and censor people for even simply raising questions, the more I doubt you. It’s as simple as doing your job to question authority, one of the parting messages from the late George Carlin (who ironically is a massive lefty that if he were alive today would have already gotten cancelled by the left).
Also, is it true that the “vaccine” doesn’t even contain the dna/rna of the actual corona virus and instead it has the rna of some side virus that is supposed to be similar to corona? So it’s not even a real vaccine but more like a booster shot?
Like giving you knee pads when you're expecting a shot to the chest. Then you get it in the crotch and they say that's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. Of course you want knee pads - in case the shot to your crotch or chest would have hit your knees - idiot!
How are we supposed to defend you against a shot to the crotch and/or chest... let alone your head! You're such an idiot. No wonder you're against knee pads. You don't even know what they're for!
Radio campaigns shaming any/all legitimate dissenting thoughts..
They have one near me, paid for by the government of Ontario, that has a guy saying several benign excuses like "I only hang out with a couple friends" "I don't feel sick" "I don't get wearing a mask AND social distancing" and then the propaganda proceeds to threaten that these sorts of people are extending the lockdowns for us all (always playing the 'us' part and putting 'you' in the open).. and then says 'until everyone gets the vaccine' or 'until we all get the vaccine..' we need to do our part to save lives blah blah...
Honestly I expect the government to be a bunch of faggots but who honestly takes the 500$ paycheck to voice this shit without any integrity. If I were a voice actor being paid to read a bunch of illegal treasonous unconstitutional bullshit propaganda I would immediately call everyone in the room a fucking communist pedophile and start telling everyone I know what they're planning to do. I guess that's why they haven't offered me the job...
Until this gets approved by the FDA anyway. They've been legally forcing vaccinations on us in many areas for over a hundred years. This shot will get FDA approval and then it'll become mandatory under Jacobson v Massachusetts. We won't be allowed to have religious exemptions either using that case if they really want to make a point.
The Supreme Court ruled against individual rights in 1905 and our Supreme Cucks today will uphold it. Considering all the other unconstitutional crap that has happened recently as well as the last few decades, the passports won't be stopped if the ones pushing it play their cards right. It has push back now, but so did the lockdowns. Many areas are still shut down or mostly shut down and there hasn't been a single protest in months.
Don't trust in what you think they "can't" do. They have a commie mindset, yes, but they still grew up in America. Americans don't take kindly to being told what they can't do. We traditionally find a way to do it anyway out of spite if nothing else.
I got the vaccine, I am of an age where it made sense to me. I have no problem with anyone who declines. That is how a free and tolerant society is supposed to work.
As a general rule, when people try to make me afraid I question their motives, instead of believing them.
I've found that to be a generally excellent test of intelligence. If you always believe people who are trying to scare you, chances are you're a stupid person.
I'm already vaccinated for other things (especially having gone to southeast asia a few times). But I'll upvote for covid vaccine nonsense. Yeah, like I'm going to trust these officials that went around saying there's no human transmission, hug a chinese, and the CCP is awesome for half a year at the start. Then later on wear 4 masks and no one can go out to earn a living. What a joke.
If the vaccine ACTUALLY provides immunity to an ACTUALLY deadly disease during an ACTUAL pandemic and is ACTUALLY tested and ACTUALLY effective...
Then I'll still need to be able to hold the people who make it responsible if something goes wrong! Seriously, there's so much wrong with this so-called vaccine that I don't understand why people are throwing themselves under the bus in order to take it. The damn thing's more dangerous than the disease (not that this is a high standard...)
My spouse, a gibbering wreck of media-induced coviphobia, is planning on getting the jab and hailing it like the Second Coming of Christ. I won't touch that syringe of government-approved damnation with a ten foot pole. We don't talk about this subject anymore.
I wrote this as a reply to another comment, I want others to see it.
Take a single semester of college biology and the technology and processes behind it make complete sense. I understand how these vaccines are supposed to woks and why. RNA is a single strand (DNA is double stranded) nucleic acid chain that is used to catalyze cell reactions and synthesize proteins. Different kinds of RNA exist, like mRNA, tRNA, and rRNA. mRNA is produced by our bodies cells after being transcribed from DNA, and when working in conjunction with tRNA and rRNA, mRNA is used as a translator tool for the creation of proteins that carry out cell functions. mRNA, as it’s used in these vaccines, is to replicate the spike protein, which is the appendages on the surface of the virus. The idea is that the mRNA will be taken up by our cells, and the protein synthesis process will occur, producing the spike protein. But our bodies don’t know what the spike protein is, so it triggers an immune response. This, in theory, should shield you from Covid.
But that’s just the theory. All that said, I still don’t trust it, and it’s not because I believe the nanobot conspiracies, or think an mRNA vaccine will alter your DNA (in short, it’s not possible). I don’t trust it because:
The amount of politicization behind the vaccine, and Covid at large. This is the most important factor for me. Between thinly veiled threats of restricting freedom of movement, to threatening to take children from parents who refuse to comply, the vaccine and its rollout seems more about public control than public safety. This cannot be overstated enough, given the “conspiracy” of vaccine passports and other tracking measures.
The fact that mRNA vaccines have previously yielded no results. Sure you can chalk this up to the billions spent on research, but I find it hard to believe that a vaccine was able to be produced in record time for a virus that previously didn’t exist, and have claims of 90-95% efficacy. Which leads me to...
Efficacy of the vaccine - it doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid, or spreading Covid if you catch it, but rather reduce your symptoms one you have it. It reduces the severity of the condition. Why is the vaccine being pushed so hard when it doesn’t even stop Covid?
The skipped human trials. There was a soft trial period of a few weeks, but no long term study on the long term effects of the vaccine. It received emergency authorization use by the FDA, which is basically a Hail Mary hope that the vaccine works and if it doesn’t, oh well.
The legal immunity from the companies that produced it. Let’s say there’s long term side effects that haven’t been uncovered yet. The government granted the biotech companies legal immunity so they can’t be sued for malpractice or mass harm caused by the vaccine.
Much of the conversation about Covid is “trusting the science”. Well if we trusted the science, masks wouldn’t be mandated (they don’t work unless the mask is rated to stop viral particles), and we wouldn’t have locked down economy in the name of a pandemic. We’re on day 380 of 15 days to slow the spread. The pandemic seems to be a Trojan horse for trusting the policy makers, who wave their Ministry of Truth wands to alter the information to fit whatever their current narrative is.
All in all, the vaccine seems to be more of a bandaid fix for a virus we still don’t have control over, and the government’s authoritarian approach and year-long blitzkrieg against personal freedom makes me believe the vaccine is the vehicle by which they implement communism. Full societal control, and weed out the dissidents with the vaccine’s rollout.
I’ll take it when the risk of of the virus outweighs the risk of the vaccine, AND they stop trying to force me to take it.
There was something posted either here or on Gab recently where a virologist was on the Triggernometry podcast, and he said that the instance of death if you’re under 70 is so low that they can’t even tell if the vaccine saves lives, because basically it’d be within margin of error even if it did.
But yeah, if you try to force me into taking it, I’m not taking it. Even if it was proved 100% safe and effective. Because fuck them.
The harder you push me to take the vaccine, the more I question your motivation for doing so.
Also, I identify as a fully vaccinated attack helicopter you bigot. My pronouns are chopchopchop and BRRRRRTTTTT.
When the Uniparty's tech, media, academia, and government wings are on a full court press to get you to do something, chances are it's not even remotely in your best interest.
Welp, they've been going on for a over a year now about staying healthy is best defence, ya know, eat right, exercise, take your vitamins esp vitamin D....Just kidding, no one suggested doing anything other than to be afraid of everthing.
The reason I know its all fake is because of the Vit D issue. They kept us locked us all last summer and arrested us for going to the beach. Plus no one talked about Vit D and your immune system and how everyone who died had low Vit D
And many were obese. They NEVER said the healthier you can be, the better chance of not dying. Almost like they wanted us...
TO DIE. They wanted as many people dead as they could manage. They even banned HCQ BECAUSE it was so effective. We are ruled by unbelievably evil people.
They banned HCQ and killed healthy people by putting them on ventilators. Remember the push for millions of new ventilators? What a con. How can people not see what happened?
And the big empty medical ships. Just infuriating.
They don't bother to look. They relish the lies they're told and hate the truth.
Yeah, what happened to the need for ventilators?
I’m pretty sure most ventilator cases lead to respiratory infections. I’m no doctor but I read that somewhere. Then when you come off the ventilator they have to hop you up on antibiotics.
People don't believe how evil these people are. If you don't believe in God and you don't believe in demons, it's hard to fathom.
The thing is, is they genuinely think they are saving the world, when they are doingg the opposite.
Thats true evil
I think one of their goals is to stop people from reproducing. They’re testing artificial wombs. Vaccinated women abortions are up 367% worldwide
It’s no secret. We’re destroying the planet with our greenhouse gasses. The only solution is to de-populate. Just listen to what they say
Utter Psychopaths in fact.
Wait? But why would Trump ban that if HCQ worked? The FDA revoked approval in mid-2020. That was six months after he directed them to allow emergency authorization. I thought he took something else when he got it?
The President of the United States is just a figurehead. The real powet lies in the unelected immovable bureaucracy that is free to do what they want in spite of what our elected Officials say.
Exactly! They don't want us to be healthy, they want us to keep paying the Healthcare industrial complex our wealth. Sicknesscare system in America, not Healthcare. And all their bitching about a virus is transparent when you see it like this.
Ever wonder why? Big pharma is the only thing more profitable than big oil.
^^^ Big Pharma (Rockefeller, Gates, et. al.) is the most powerful lobby in the history of the world.
It’s shocking to me sometimes how many people gave up their liberties so quickly. I believe it shocked the crooks, too.
but fauci did say 'there's no way to boost your immune system.'
what a hoax
96% of all hospitalizations we're vitamin d3 deficient, but no lock yourselves up wear a mask and avoid your fellow man like the plague, instead of you know build a healthy immune system by something vitamin d
Outside soaking up some Vit D as I work right now
I urged all my friends to get out in the sun during the lockdowns, but very few left their couch. Modern Americans spent WAY too much time inside in front of screens even before the shamdemic and the lockdowns gave people an excuse to double their laziness.
Whatever would they do in a long term communications blackout?
The media is also suppressing mask and respiratory related bacterial infections. When have you seen ONE story about the negative health effects on wearing a mask all day long or re-using one day after day?
Bacterial Pneumonia is made for mask wearers who don't change masks frequently as few do.
Yeah their entire plan was contradictory. If anything tell old people and those with preconditions to be careful. But that's it. It's not the governments job to close everything down.
Soaking up the FL sun all week on vacation. Of course it’s Disney so I’m wearing a mask like a cuck-face. Salt water, sweat, sand and a mask are very healthy for your face...
I recommend SeaWorld. They have 4 actual rollercoasters, and much less pedos than Disney. Plus admission is much less.
Going to sea world today! And with a military discount I get the whole family in free once per year. With that kind of admission, I’m going to splurge on some Budweisers.
I've been listening to David Gornoski a lot lately. He does a talkshow that analyzes current events through a Christian lens. Not the typical boomercon lens but more about how woke-ism and state worship is a type of counterfeit Christianity that's been slowly replacing actual Christianity.
Anyway he's always saying the American diet is garbage. Way too much omega 6 vegetable oil and refined carbs. Lack of exercise. Lack of vitamin D from staying inside all day. Most of the covid deaths were with comorbidities directly caused by poor diet and lifestyle.
If Dr. Fauci really cared about our health so much he'd be getting on stage and telling people to clean up their diets and go for walk outside.
But no they want to keep selling us industrial sludge (big soy and big corn subsidies) to shovel down our already fat faces, pump us full of patented pharmaceuticals (gotta be patented can't use generic drugs like HCQ or ivermectin), close down the gyms and lock us in our houses so we can't even get any exercise.
Literally everything the government does promotes the opposite of good health.
But suddenly we need to wear the mask and take the "vaccine" for our good?
Gonna see in 10 years if this has some deportation initiative behind it.
Can you explain please, fren? Who gets deported and why? I'm a little slow sometimes.
It was supposed to say depopulation, but auto correct.
Dr. Shiva was the answer last March!!
If it is a massive campaign like RussiaGate, BLM, or covid, it's there to control you,
Covid is the current year version of "duck and cover".
Full court press? More like they shut the entire game down cus they were losing and are now turning the arena into a gulag more and more everyday...
Yep. I have other chronic health conditions that Bill Gates could easily remedy with all his money, but all he and the government want to talk about is vaccination. Hmmmmm 🤔
If it worked and was safe, people would WANT to take it.
Because people wanted the vaccine, and he wants to attribute his name to the rollout. It’s a dangerous move tho. If the vaccine is actually harmful, the media has months of footage of Trump saying how great it is and that he’s responsible for it
Even the EU is talking about 4k death and 162k injuries from the vax and that's just what's being reported. Who knows what the 5 year outcome will be for the mRNA experiment on 100M people?
he was never on our side?
Has this entire movement been a massive dupe?
We fellow MAGA patriots are real. The millions of Americans who love America and want our nation restored? That's for sure. Everything else? Who knows? I don't understand why Trump didn't go nuclear and stop the steal.
He’s a businessman, not so much revolutionary. Last year needed a revolutionary.
Correct. Deal making is fine, but you can't make deals with psychopaths.
The MAGA movement is real.
i myself chock that up to this: https://patriots.win/p/12i3uZD5RF/politicians-are-professional-act/c/
all part of the act :(
What choice did Trump have? He had to say -use it, it works-. What would he have said instead? Dont take it? He's not a dr-
Frankly, I don't really care about the vaccination per se, but it's because its so politicized and the medical experts and politicians are obviously lying, that I'm not getting the vaccination. Every single fad or new thing in my life that started this way, ended up being a bust, sometimes catastrophically that I'm not going to believe all the cards are on the table. heck, real medical doctors have lost their jobs for prescribing HQC and now we know it works.
Anyways, COVID is disease that claims the fat and the really old. I'm healthy and middle aged. I'll take my chances. Also, I'm not saving anyone's life by being vaccinated or by wearing a mask. Viral diseases aren't eradicated and shut down by any of this quakery nearly as I can tell.
I wouldn't suggest anyone take it because all three are considered experimental - hence why it took emergency powers to pass them through the FDA. It's the biggest thing about Trump's presidency that I'm disappointed with.
Do you think it's possible that Trump was secretly impeached in early 2020, but they kept him as a figure head (and pretended the impeachment failed) in order to keep us from using the 2A? It would explain why he stopped acting like a president when Covid began.
If Trump is letting the deep state push him around, he needs to fucking grow a pair and speak up already. He is near the end of his life anyway, and there are probably 100 million of us who support him. He should not be intimidated by their threats to censure or prosecute him for doing what’s necessary to save the country.
No, I don't think so. I think, based on what I have read, that he is a germaphobe: no presidential dog, doesn't like to shake hands, etc. They got him in his weak spot with the virus and he caved. I would like to believe this is why he went with the vaccines too, but I honestly think he used it to push his popularity politically to better his chances of winning the presidency. I hope. But it failed.
No. Impeachment proceedings are not done in secret.
You've hit on a few of my biggest talking points. So far, the only thing anyone can really tell me that this thing is supposed to do is lessen my symptoms.... umm. pass.
I don't need a "vaccine" shot to lessen my symptoms. I'm a solid healthy individual. And they can't even lie this time and say "it helps others," because the obvious response is "you say I can still get it AND give it to other people. So how does it help anybody else other than myself??"
And yeah - all the cards are DEFINITELY not on the table.
Its rape.
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I'm not entirely against vaccinations.
I'm just against this politicized, experimental mRNA therapy for which the corporations pushing it have no liability, the FDA hasn't approved it, and there's no data on long term effects.
That said, I'm still going to vaccinate my children for polio. I can be persuaded why I shouldn't. Show me some evidence and reasons I shouldn't. I do believe vaccines carry risks.
This experimental synthetic mRNA therapy is something entirely different. I trust my instinct. When dishonest politicians are pushing this hard for it, it can't be good.
Most of us who aren’t getting the Covid shots aren’t anti-vax.
I've always thought that anti-vaxxers were kooks, and to a degree that still holds true.
I also think the "nanobots" conspiracy theories regarding the Covid vax are horseshit. Ten to twenty years from now, sure that could be a possibility.
There's an overwhelming, all-in-unison voice of pressure coming from sheep on the left and right telling folks to get the vax. It's coming from everywhere, just like it did back in 2016 when they did not want Trump to get the nomination or conservative vote in the election.
I thank those fools and evildoers for letting me know their positions, rest assured there are many more that will reveal themselves in the near future.
Antivaxx is a propaganda term designed to dismiss any concerns about vaccines.
There is a shocking lack of long term efficacy studies, and plenty of evidence that vaccines cause harm.
You should be able to ask questions and make the best choice for your family based on evidence. The fact that you cannot is despicable.
I never liked how the "anti-vaxx" crowd was treated. I also never really gave them any merit before COVID. However, I hated how they seemed to be treated as insane just for asking a question.
Now for not taking the vaxxx and being skeptical, I'm being treated as they were all along. I get it now and should have been more receptive to the conversation.
Guess I'm just saying, sorry it took me so long to wake up and smell the tyranny. But I'm here now so let's ask questions together and accept any brother's and sister's who still haven't woken up but will.
Yep, I knew something was up when I was still on reddit and the shills were obsessed with calling people "anti-vaxx". This was pre-China Flu, so I thought it was just stereo typical "religious people are bad" propaganda. Now I think it was priming people to hate people that don't get the gene therapy.
Just start talking about the rise in autism as related to the ridiculous amount of vaccines children are given ...... That is real.
But it's been DEeBoOonKkEEddd!!!! The media said so!
But buuu muh vaccines r guuud
This is mercury toxicity
From what I understand the anti-vaxxers believe the "adjuvants" (toxic substances added to traditional vaccines to irritate the immune system and kickstart antibody production) are harmful.
But vaxxers say the doses are too small to cause any harm.
I haven't researched it enough to have an opinion.
There are many different arguments, but some of the main ones are:
-vaccine makers have blanket immunity from lawsuits so they do not have an incentive to make vaccines safer
-certain genetic differences make people more susceptible to vaccine injury than others, but vaccine policy does not take this into account
-there are no long term safety studies for lifelong health outcomes and vaccine makers refuse to conduct them
-vaccines contain contaminants and allergens that can cause autoimmune disease or death
The basic idea behind adjuvants is this:
When you use a dead virus in a vaccine, your body will not respond to it because it’s dead.
An adjuvant will irritate your immune system and force an immune response.
However, when vaccines include hundreds of ingredients and contaminants including egg, yeast, soy, or even human tissue, how does your body know what is “causing” the irritation.
Many people believe the skyrocketing rates of autoimmune disease are caused by adjuvants creating an unintended immune reaction.
There is also speculation this led to the rise of peanut allergies in the 90’s. Genetics alone doesn’t explain it, as it happened all at once in many different populations.
No, its inflammatory response to certain foods. Modern day Standard American Diet is complete shit with the amount of gluten and dairy, which are both highly inflammatory. Sugar too, modern diet is filled with so much sugar.
That is why certain diets can cure inflammatory diseases. For instance, if you have arthritis, just go keto or some anti-inflammatory diet.
I agree modern diets are crap, but I don’t think that’s the whole picture.
And there are documented examples of adjuvants causing autoimmune disease.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27417999/
Lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, thyroiditis, etc.
Some vaccines used to be grown on peanut proteins. When injected in vaccines with an adjuvent it trained the body to have an immune response to those proteins in some people. That's why peanut allergies skyrocketed. Before that it was rare.
The increase of allergies is something I've been trying to figure out. There's theories it's the vaccines, GMO/pesticides or not giving it to children young enough. Its definitely not normal that we're all getting allergic to everything.
Agreed. I think there's a minority of anti-vaxxers who are kooky, crystal-wavers, but the media likes to focus on them because they make questioning vaccines look stupid. In reality, most vaccine skeptics want to know ingredients, why they're there, why companies have limited liability, what the long-term effects are. They simply want data and research and the ability to ask questions
What makes you think nano bots aren't possible today? It's 2020.
Edit: my mistake, it's actually 2021. Still feels like 2020 hasn't ended yet though.
It's 2021...
My mistake.
It's more than concept, or a one-off creation. The mass-commercialization and production necessary to reliably produce something at that scale is enormous and requires extensive suppliers, tooling, materials, as well as the human capital to produce it consistently and reliably across a variety of locations. That being said there is no way this would remain secret.
We really do have much to be concerned with this technology, it's just not in this current wave of vaccines. I'd wager that if such a dark future exists, they would actually leak the nano-bot thing about the current vaccinations just to make people look like idiots. Once they've eliminated questioning of authority, they can continue work towards future implementation knowing that no one will dare question it again.
The Left plays the long game.
i'm no expert but such technology would need a power source no? We don't have ever-lasting batteries, especially ones so small.
we do have wireless charging capabilities already. You have phone charging "pads" so it's not a far reach to think that you can have chips recharge themselves via to current waves from wifi-like emanations/5g or just have responders like airdrop (when your phones are in close enough distance, they can transmit data to each other).
We literally generate energy within our bodies.
Nano bots have been around for at least ten years. Research Morgellon's.
All the downvotes come from people who haven't researched and clearly don't know what they're dealing with - or from visitors wanting to hide what might be true.
Singer Joni Mitchell has it, and she's not a loony.
The CDC tried hard to disclaim that it exists, but the people who have it and who are believeable can show evidence. Years ago I debunked the CDC's claims, which were based on distorted (fake) data about its non-existence.
Nano is real.
Nanobots are possible: MIT has been testing nano bots since 2018. Look at Elons company neurology for similar technology. Nanobots also answers the question on why bill gates has taken on vax as his philanthropy, which is way outside his computer realm. Look at the vax manufacturer websites... Moderna calls this vaccine an "operating system".
Being in science, I have always had much more respect for anti-vaxxers and flat earthers that are honest and can admit when they're wrong than those who blindly follow duh science.
You can't verify absolutely everything in life yourself, that's a Herculean task, but it's entirely fair to question vaccines and other treatments - even with justified vaccines to treat actual, dangerous illnesses, there are questions like what preservative agents in there that may be bad for your health or even the risk of death (can't quite recall anymore, but I think it was Spanish flu where the vaccine had a chance to kill you outright, but that chance was lower than from the Spanish flu so many people chose the lesser risk).
And look at Thalidomide, the science wasn't good enough to know the reasons for the side effects back when it was made, but it was recommended for treating morning sickness and resulted in deformed babies. If you just blindly trusted the 'science' and pharma congrats, you could kick up a fuss but the damage was done.
I'm not touching the covid vaccine and my education included both genetics and pharmacy - not as much as specialists on those fields but still a substantial amount. But my reasoning is simple, covid is pure hysteria (like the msm does for every pandemic), only with this hysteria there isn't even much of a mortality rate to go with it and these vaccines are untested long term and being pushed too hard for me to trust the motives.
I'm not going to take a vaccine for a disease almost as 'deadly' as the yearly flu.
I'm not going to take a vaccine for a disease almost as 'deadly' as the yearly flu.
Bingo. We're living in a period where people cannot see the forrest for the trees.
Every single time the deep state is up to something, they put out lots of disinfo onto the internet to try to confuse those of us who oppose it. That's why you have ridiculous garbage theories like that the WTC wasn't hit by aircraft but rather by missiles, that there are nanobots in the coof vaccine, etc. It poisons the well and makes us all look like idiots if any of us start believing their disinfo.
The term anti-vax is an intentionally made up pejorative to smear and silence logical criticism of vaccine safety, regulation, injury and the money, motivation and individuals in power behind the industry. Isn't is convenient how we got an almost identical pejorative term -- antimask -- out of the covid situation? Questioning vaccines and electing to get them or not, or put them into your children, is not demonic, by any stretch. It is a human right decision.
Agreed. I've never been to Africa but were I ever to cross Africa off my bucket list I would deff consider a shot or two.
Oh, the list is longer than a shot or two. It's actually long enough that you may reconsider the list item entirely.
The OP sounds anti-vax by saying "Under no circumstances will I ever be vaccinated" It would sound more reasonable to say until some personal threshold is met which depends somewhat on each person's own tolerance for risk.
Who fucking cares what he sounds like? This is why republicans lose.
Because it doesn't sound like a reasoned position when stated this way. He sounds exactly as the MSM portrays republicans when they pretend democrats are the party of science, and that sure as hell doesn't help republicans win anything.
Gun to your head, needle to your arm, one way or another you're getting a shot. Pretty sure most people wouldnt take the shot of lead..
^^^THIS^^^
Old School vaccines are necessary, wiping out real diseases with real results and real immunization.
mRNA and mDNA therapy? Count me out.
Too many unknowns in health AND legal risks at the moment.
mDNA doesn’t exist.
RNA is a single strand (DNA is double stranded) nucleic acid chain that is used to catalyze cell reactions and synthesize proteins. Different kinds of RNA exist, like mRNA, tRNA, and rRNA. mRNA is produced by our bodies cells after being transcribed from DNA, and when working in conjunction with tRNA and rRNA, mRNA is used as a translator tool for the creation of proteins. mRNA, as it’s used in these vaccines, is to replicate the spike protein, which is the appendages on the surface of the virus. The idea is that the mRNA will be taken up by our cells, and the protein synthesis process will occur, producing the spike protein. Our bodies don’t know what the spike protein is, so it triggers an immune response.
Take a single semester of college biology and the technology and processes behind it make complete sense. I understand how the vaccine works and why. That said, I still don’t trust it, and it’s not because I believe the nanobot conspiracies, or think an mRNA vaccine will alter your DNA (in short, it’s not possible). I don’t trust it because of
The amount of politicization behind the vaccine, and Covid at large. This is the most important factor for me. Between thinly veiled threats of restricting freedom of movement, to threatening to take children from parents who refuse to comply, the vaccine and its rollout seems more about public control than public safety. This cannot be overstated enough, given the “conspiracy” of vaccine passports and other tracking measures.
The fact that mRNA vaccines have previously yielded no results. Sure you can chalk this up to the billions spent on research, but I find it hard to believe that a vaccine was able to be produced in record time for a virus that previously didn’t exist, and have claims of 90-95% efficacy. Which leads me to...
Efficacy of the vaccine - it doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid, or spreading Covid if you catch it, but rather reduce your symptoms one you have it. It reduces the severity of the condition. Why is the vaccine being pushed so hard when it doesn’t even stop Covid?
The skipped human trials. There was a soft trial period of a few weeks, but no long term study on the long term effects of the vaccine. It received emergency authorization use by the FDA, which is basically a Hail Mary hope that the vaccine works and if it doesn’t, oh well.
The legal immunity from the companies that produced it. Let’s say there’s long term side effects that haven’t been uncovered yet. The government granted the biotech companies legal immunity so they can’t be sued for malpractice or mass harm caused by the vaccine.
Much of the conversation about Covid is “trusting the science”. Well if we trusted the science, masks wouldn’t be mandated (they don’t work unless the mask is rated to stop viral particles), and we wouldn’t have locked down economy in the name of a pandemic. We’re on day 380 of 15 days to slow the spread. The pandemic seems to be a Trojan horse for trusting the policy makers, who wave their Ministry of Truth wands to alter the information to fit whatever their current narrative is.
All in all, the vaccine seems to be more of a bandaid fix for a virus we still don’t have control over, and the government’s authoritarian approach and year-long blitzkrieg against personal freedom makes me believe the vaccine is the vehicle by which they implement communism. Full societal control, and weed out the dissidents with the vaccine’s rollout.
Great post.
Exactly my thoughts. Please repost this as its own thread at some point.
Agreed. It should also be stickied.
Thank you, well put.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/vaccine-secrets/video-chapters/vaccines-do-not-deserve-the-credit-for-reducing-contagious-diseases/
My thinking is A.) Covid isn't serious unless you are old or otherwise unhealthy, and in that case you already have a high rate of mortality without an incidental covid infection so the real impact of the virus isn't clear. We know they've been inflating the numbers and seriousness of the virus for a year now.
And B.) I'm skeptical that gene therapy vaccines won't include some other unintended changes in our bodies as the long term side effects are unknown. It's entirely possible that someone in a position of power inside the government or a medical lab could intentionally add other nefarious changes "for our own good" without telling us. Real dystopian science fiction scenarios where the elites feel like there's too much toxic masculinity and attack testosterone production in men, as one example. Or that dropping birth rates in the West are still too high so they intentionally lower fertility.
While I think the likelihood of those those scenarios are low and I feel like Alex Jones for even bringing it up, they are more likely to happen than me dying from the coof. Our government has a history of treating citizens like guinea pigs with things like Tuskegee Experiments or MKUltra so I'm not comfortable giving them the power to make medical decisions for me.
It doesn't help that it's being pushed relentlessly by one of the most obnoxiously rich people in the world, who happens to be a eugenicist and child of the former leader of Planned Parenthood, who seems to have made decreasing global populations one of his life's goals.
Combine that with the fact that he's the same asshole responsible for the abomination that is the Windows Registry, and I'm out.
And that he experiments with his vaccines on African and Indian children.
Also is married to a horse
Exactly the chance that the government doesn’t have my best interest in mind is far higher than the likelyhood i or anyone close to me dies from the coof
Dont forget about injecting covid sick men with female hormones
Covid-19 has a 0.15% fatality rate, very similar to the flu.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13554
I straight up believe that if you don't vaccinate your kids with old school vaccines, which for all the evidence that they can potentially cause problems, the benefits of them so far outweight it that it's worth it and if you don't, I would outright have trouble trusting your judgement (hypothetically).
Yet with this shit, I can't shake the feeling no matter what that there's something wrong with it. I don't personally think they would intentionally fuck it up, they need their taxpigs to milk more but it was rushed so fast and is being rammed down our throats at light speed that I don't trust it.
When you realise that the same people that are pushing for it are the EXACT same people that have been wrong about literally everything else they push on us for the past 5 years (at least) it makes it very clear that there's something up with the "vaccine".
All the people pushing hard for us to take the vaccine are the most prominent anti-Trump radical left losers, including the media, the Democrats, all the big celebrities that have been famously anti-Trump.
It could be harmless, it might not have anything nefarious in it. But it was rushed, it does have side effects, some of which are noticeably worse than if you just caught Kung Flu itself and if there was something intentionally dangerous about the vaccine, it would be one of the most effective ways at distributing such a massive change.
Yeah, all the leftists pushing it make me hesitant as hell (but hell, even right wingers are pushing it, the politicos anyway).
I've personally got cancer (in remission yay), but I still don't want to take the vaccine even if the virus could fuck me up. It's a pretty bad comorbidity but I also had a fairly mild cancer, for cancer anyway (testicular). Even with all of this, it's still sketchy to me even though I probably should trust it. You know you've got a vaccine that people don't trust when a fucking cancer "survivor" doesn't want to take it.
Congratulations. Both me and hubby are cancer survivors, but we had the type of cancer where they just steal your organs and hormones.
I am not getting the shot because the government is involved, and I remember the swine flu shots from 1975 and people keeling over dead. I dont get the flu shot either...and have NEVER had the flu.
If the government and media and politicians didnt lie to us all the time, I might feel different. But this is too much like Hitler directing us to the gas chambers
Always hard to feel like a cancer survivor when all I've had to do is have surgery to have a ball ripped out and no chemo (luckily, here's to hoping my next scans go well!), but I guess I technically count.
Yeah it's funny, if the government didn't lie so much I'd be more willing to take this vaccine, but because they lie so much it's hard to trust.
Ball cancer... How did you know?
Agree so much
I might not trust their judgement, but I absolutely will defend their right to refuse to the death. Short of recklessly polluting by dumping toxic waste into public waterways, you are not responsible for my health, and I'm not responsible for yours. Without an active element--an action you directly perform that causes me to come to harm--I am guilty of no crime.
I've seen too many videos of parents with autistic children in tears swearing on their lives that the vaccines harmed their children.
And I don't think they are liars.
Liars, no. Perhaps mistaken. I'm on the fence, personally. Most of the people I've met who actively distrust vaccines have seemed a little off, themselves. But I firmly believe in their right to refuse any medical treatment, whether or not I believe it's the right call.
The system is bursting a the seams with kids being diagnosed with autism. Many of them are toddlers or younger. Too many for schools equipped to handle them to take on. Drooling, pissing, unable to feed themselves autistic kids who never do anything but watch the same youtube video three thousand times in a row day after day.
Tell me, buddy boy -- what's causing the explosion in autism if not for the explosion of vaxxes being jammed into kids at exceptionally early ages?
I am unsure about the vax/autism connection, but you're 1000% right about the massive rise in autism. What bothers me is the lack of interest in the gov't and universities researching WHY and just leaving these grieving parents with too bad, so sad. To me, that screams something is very wrong somewhere.
My wife is a preschool teacher and has some theories - over diagnosis, way too much screen time, maybe some of these babies would not have survived infancy 50 years ago -- but I am quite sure the vaccine theory has been thoroughly disproven.
“Thoroughly disproven” by the CDC, who destroyed evidence of an actual significant link between the MMR vaccine and autism in black male children. There was a whistleblower at the CDC. Trust the CDC at your own risk.
By the same people who have proven climate change and disproven election fraud.
Lol... throughly disproven my ass
There is a lot of evidence pointing to vaccines causing the high rates of autism........
I get not trusting more recently approved vaccines, that seems to be where all the anti-vax stuff stems from (possibly because they've made mistakes as society degrades), but it's not trusting vaccines that have been used for decades that tends to get me.
I still don't think they should be forced either way, if that's what they believe, then that's what they believe.
Much of their concern is that vaccines used to be made in the USA and now they're mostly made in Chyna or from components made in Chyna so there's a legitimate concern that Chinese goods just might not be pure and healthy.
Thankfully, no one gives a shit whether or not you trust their judgement or not.
I'm not anti-vax in the slightest. I've never bought into the narrative that vaccinations cause autism or any of the other more wacky ones.
But this one is an experimental gene therapy for an illness no more deadly than a run of the mill flu. What we have is a test that pops positive long after you recover and from other viruses as well and a revised standard for death certificates that makes covid a "catch all" cause of death.
If it were really that deadly, none of the bullshit would be required, we'd be able to see it with our own eyes, instead of via distortions by the media.
So for this one I am solidly anti-vax. Too many lies involved.
Caught this shit. Why would I need a vaccine?
Why would you need a vaccine for the common cold?
I had it too, it definitely wasn't like a cold or the flu. It'll be a year in April...and my smell and taste has NOT returned to normal. I can't stand a LOT of things still.
Yeah, it's definitely a unique virus. I agree with the people saying it isn't much worse than the common cold/flu, but it's definitely its own.
That said, the PCR tests will pop positive on a lot of other viruses, so I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+ of positive cases were something else. I almost doubt covid exists en masse today, honestly.
I was merely going off my take on it. Two of my coworkers had it. One thought she had allergies...no one else in her family got it...but she's crazy and probably isolated herself. Other ended up in ICU...but she's overweight, diabetes, beat stage 4 cancer not too long ago, and then ended up with pneumonia too...but her husband didn't catch it from her and he took care of her. My husband got it too, but wasn't sick...had a dry nose? Weird since I had a runny nose. But I've also lost my smell and taste...with it only partially coming back now at a year on April 10...and I'm miserable. I also had migraines, sinus pressure that wasn't my sinuses according to an ENT dr and neurologist. I just want to go back to normal myself. It's infuriating. But this is no way makes me want a vaccine, or to ever take a test again. Esp since mine wasn't shoved up my nose, it was self administered and there's not reason for that...and I wouldn't do it. Also yeah the tests are shit. I didn't want to go get tested, boss wanted me to. We have a lot of old people here...She also got a false positive when she was trying to have a procedure done and freaked out...it's ridiculous.
This is what I told a previous person who asked about my smell...in case you are curious.
Oh god yes, I've always had a great sense of smell. This is the worst thing ever. It's made me super miserable, and my husband. I choke on a lot of smells, and want to vomit...But I'm not a big vomit-er so I just make the retching noise. I can smell partial smells of some things. Some things I still cannot smell or taste. Corn based cereal tastes like straight up corn, that's it. Some fruits or veggies taste like soap. All meat cooking smells the same to me, and it's actually nauseating too. Eggs smell and taste rancid. Can't stand anything with garlic and onion, it has a toxic bitter smell that makes me want to vomit...which unfortunately is almost everything. Husband got it, didn't lose anything. Neither did my two coworkers. I could go on and on. I started keeping a journal so I can go back and try things and see if they change. What's crazy is now my nose can pick up the partial smell of garlic and onion from far away. We went over to a friends for crawfish...and I could smell it at the curb. Husband smelled nothing, and his smell is normal. Mine was always stronger before all this happened...so guess maybe that is the case now too...with the partials I can smell. I've also been to a doctor, ENT dr, and neurologists as I faced other issues I think linked to this. Migraines, sinus pressure that wouldn't go away. Turns out my sinuses were fine. Had a ct scan done of them, and a MRI...nothing wrong. So they GUESS it is just my smell coming back which it's been stuck in the slowest gear for probably 4+ months now. It only started coming back maybe 7 months ago. It was gone completely for 5 months...but I still had taste AT first.
How terrible. Has anyone done research on “the losing taste and smell” side of Covid . the enjoyment of eating is taste and smell. I can’t even imagine..... Hope it improves for you. 🙂
I've read a few articles about it, it's eerie how someone else describing what it was like, it was like me describing it. On the plus side, I have lost weight. I didn't have a lot to lose...but it's helped me keep it off. I really don't think I'll ever go back to normal 100% just because I probably won't forget how all the shitty foods taste. Fried foods and anything with fake shit in it tastes the worst. More natural stuff is bearable.
It sounds like COVID turned you into some sort of mutant...now known as SUPERNOSE!
Lmao thanks for the laugh
Hey, this sounds weird. But this was the best explanation of the no taste thing and it made me confident on something
A few years ago, I took Zicam and it did the EXACT same thing to me, where plain water tasted like asshole and a bunch of other weird taste/smell related things
I found out it was because either my cells couldn't uptake zinc or couldn't remove it from the cell.
Maybe try taking Zicam, or looking into how to reduce zinc levels. I would love to hear the results
Dude, thanks. I will try. I tried zinc, and a bunch of other vitamins for weeks with no progress. I mean at this point I've tried a lot...so as long as it's not some vaccine, or a mask...I will try. Also was it the tablets, fruit drops, spray, or what looks like a damn nose swab? Lol.
Sorry I'm at work, it was the tablets. I really think it has something to with zinc. Good luck!
Excuse me? I was giving my account regarding my smell and taste. Have you experienced it for a year? Talk to me then.
90% reduction of the flu this year is all we need to know.
1,822/38,000,000 = 0.004794737
Or 99.52% reduction.
Tell me more. Did you used to have a strong sense of taste and smell, and now it is very faint???
I heard it's a lack of zinc. It didn't happen to me when I got it so I can't comment. Zinc is part of my daily vitamin intake though so I never had to check.
In my experience I lost it COMPLETELY for 2 weeks. It gradually came back but even still, 3 months later, I have days where everything is just bland. Breakfast everyday is still bland. Very strange. I take a high dose of zinc everyday so I am just rolling with it.
Zinc lozenges always ruined my sense of taste when I took them for a cold. Now I just take colloidal gold
Oh god yes, I've always had a great sense of smell. This is the worst thing ever. It's made me super miserable, and my husband. I choke on a lot of smells, and want to vomit...But I'm not a big vomit-er so I just make the retching noise. I can smell partial smells of some things. Some things I still cannot smell or taste. Corn based cereal tastes like straight up corn, that's it. Some fruits or veggies taste like soap. All meat cooking smells the same to me, and it's actually nauseating too. Eggs smell and taste rancid. Can't stand anything with garlic and onion, it has a toxic bitter smell that makes me want to vomit...which unfortunately is almost everything. Husband got it, didn't lose anything. Neither did my two coworkers. I could go on and on. I started keeping a journal so I can go back and try things and see if they change. What's crazy is now my nose can pick up the partial smell of garlic and onion from far away. We went over to a friends for crawfish...and I could smell it at the curb. Husband smelled nothing, and his smell is normal. Mine was always stronger before all this happened...so guess maybe that is the case now too...with the partials I can smell. I've also been to a doctor, ENT dr, and neurologists as I faced other issues I think linked to this. Migraines, sinus pressure that wouldn't go away. Turns out my sinuses were fine. Had a ct scan done of them, and a MRI...nothing wrong. So they GUESS it is just my smell coming back which it's been stuck in the slowest gear for probably 4+ months now. It only started coming back maybe 7 months ago. It was gone completely for 5 months...but I still had taste AT first.
Very interesting. Thank you. I have always been a supertaster and supersmeller. Cant stand the smell or taste of food. Except sweets. Casseroles forget about it. I make them for hubby. Onions. Just NO. Cant stand the smell of cantelope, bananas, apple peelings. And perfume. Just yuck.
Hope I get covid so I can be normal for once in my life. I live in fear of being invited over to someone’s house for dinner. Of course that was when I had friends. Before covid sorted the idiots out for me.
Im intrigued by this. Because some I believe did catch the Chinese virus. But it was so weak...Only those who had the symptoms probably truly had COVID.
Everyone else? Flu.
The sick part wasn't even bad I'd say. I first had a sore throat, runny nose, cough. Lost my smell first. Had taste for a while. After I got over the "sick" part, I had migraines, then sinus pressure. Which according to doctors, it was probably just my smell coming back. Which it's pretty much stuck in neutral and has been about 4 months or so. Here and there I smell something a little different, but most shit smells the same partial smells. And I can't stand the partial smell of garlic or onion which is in everything. I've started wearing a nose plug so I don't feel like vomiting. Husband had a dry nose, nothing else. Being stuck at home was worse than the sickness...And then going back to being active.
Yeah, after how many Covid tests did they ram up your nose? The answer is so fucking obvious
No one rammed anything up my nose. I had one test in April...self administered because they treated us like we had the plague. Passed it to me on a 6 ft table. No need for it to go up your fucking brain. I definitely won't have another test, but my boss wanted me too because at the time it was early on and we have old people at my job...I was just going to stay home without the test at first
It's not the common cold but if it was a vaccine would be cool. I hate getting the cold.
Up your Vit D, wear gloves when you shop and pump gas, and at the first sign of a cold take some Colloidal Gold which kills viruses. I can go years without catching a cold
Bruh
Meta-shitposting is in season!
Works
You're a pussy.
yeah honestly if there was a vaccine that prevented me from catching the cold ever again, i'd take it every year
This.
Right? So you’re immune but what matters to these idiots more is whether you can certify that you got an mRNA injection, even if it does not produce an immunization response.
Same reason you need a mask. No reason.
There's a large number of us that already had it but didn't go in for treatment to leave a paper trail proving we had it. If we acknowledge that natural immunity is as good as (or better) than the vaccine, then they'd have to open up testing so people can now go and prove they already have immunity and can get a pass on the vaccine. If we prove exactly HOW MANY people actually got the virus even though everything was destroyed due to the lockdowns, then the fact all of this was political would be out in the open and proven ineffective at stopping/slowing the spread. They CAN'T let people have the option of testing themselves to see if they already had the virus and didn't even know.
My theory is that we've BEEN at herd immunity levels for some time, but we just didn't know it. I think it was Stanford that crunched that data at a month or month and a half in by looking at places like Cali and NY and came to that conclusion which got ignored.
I will die on this hill.
Me too.
Sign me up.
Fuck that. I'm gonna take the hill and plant my fucking flag on it
Yep
99.9% chance you survive though
Sure for the virus. But what about the vaccine.
As will I
It's experimental gene therapy. Not even FDA approved. Yeah, no thanks.
I agree with you, however I found this so it looks like the FDA is in on it. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2021/02/27/there-are-now-three-coronavirus-vaccines-approved-by-the-fda-n2585456
Emergency-use approval.
Exactly. They say themselves there are no vaccines for Covid-19 in the fact sheets of these same "vaccines".
Yep. Friend said her insurance company was saying they wouldn't cover any side effects because it was still considered an "experimental" drug, probably not the only insurance going that way hence the "emergency approval" by Feds. Can't let anything stop their stampeding the sheep into China's pens.
I'm a hospital nurse, If anyone is going to be forced it get it, it's probably me. My wife says she will support me if I refuse, she will refuse too.
If he's a nurse, chances are his wife is into women
What the heck guys? You do realize there's a LOT of men in nursing, and good thing too as lifting a patient can take serious heft.
One of my friends is based af and is going into nursing. He doesn’t want the rigor of medical school but wants to be involved in healthcare. Don’t discount male nurses as all being beta soy cucks
Yea I'm sure what those guys were smoking, I've known a of nurses, and there a certain assumptions you might make like we lost our minds, but saying my wife is gay is just weird.
me think nurse = girly girl job
me no want man to do girly job me angry!!
Traitor joe the Pedo and company are trying to force vaccination passports on us...
https://biblehub.com/revelation/13-17.htm
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Yup. Test trials in the run-up for the real deal. Conditioning people to accept these things as a valid response to dissent.
I'm for chicken-egg vaccines. They have been tried and tested for ages.
I'm not on board with these human cell or mRNA vaccines until the FDA proves that they have created a full set of tests to address new risks involved with the new vaccine production methods.
As of now, they still haven't properly tested any human cell vaccines, which include flu vaccines. They literally don't know if the vaccines are being contaminated with retroviruses. I would not expect HIV to be one of the retroviruses present, but retroviruses are very nasty but almost impossible to spread, since you would need direct transmission of plasma in such a way that preserves viroids. But the vaccines do it.
Chicken egg vaccines are safe, though, because you can't be infected by chicken retroviruses. Also, the chicken egg is not a great place for retroviruses to propagate, unlike a living, propagated human cell.
Lmk if any of you want the science behind this stuff. I used to be totally pro-vaxx until this last year when someone raised the concerns about the human-cell-line vaccines. I dug in, and the science is significantly lacking on safety for the new vaccines. The new vaccines since 2008 COULD scientifically cause autism, and the FDA doesn't even deny the potential causality in their science reports.
Someone in my family has a newborn on the way.
Which vaccines are tried and true and moral to give to a newborn baby?
Which ones should be avoided?
Polio, small pox, diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DTP), mumps-measles-rubella (MMR), hepatitis A & B, and chicken pox. Since small pox has been eradicated worldwide, it may not be available today.
Meningitis I left off, but it has become required for public schools and many organizational activities. It is still an old school-style vaccine, though.
These are the tried and true vaccines, for diseases you really don't want to watch your kids going through.
Yes, chicken pox is on there. As a kid disease, it's for those most part a harmless annoyance. That said, once contracted, the same virus hibernates within the body and resurfaces decades later as shingles - a very painful disease.
Do your research. Some of the update old school vaccines may still contain components that bring allergies, or have possibly questionable ethics involved. Bear in mind there is a LOT of disinformation out about vaccines - particularly on the issue of the use of aborted fetal material in vaccines.
Do your research starting with these vaccines. Engage critical thinking. Weigh whether certain issues are worth watching the child have coughing fits serious enough to cause brain damage (pertussis), or be at risk for sterility if mumps is contracted as an adult, for examples.
In the end, this has to be an intelligent decision.
This is what I was looking for...someone said something to me too about keeping your kid vaccinated against the normal old school stuff. But I do wonder if they may change it or something. I know I would want to research it too before hand.
Start here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7rrf4s/the_skeptics_guide_to_vaccines_part_ii/
Sorry for the Reddit link, but sources and scientific studies are cited.
I know this user was banned, so hopefully all the links work. If not, they hang out on conspiracies.win and I bet they’ll answer questions if you have them.
Thanks for that. Currently do not have children, but want to plan just in case. So figured I can look into now, and update in the future. I mean I had mine as a kid, and never had any issues...but I know that's not the case with everyone. And some are worse than others. I mean technically I probably should have come out all kinds of fucked off...but I didn't.
I had to get a smallpox vaccine before deploying to Afghanistan. Apparently the Soviets lost a sample around the time they were ceasing to exist and never found it.
This is the only reason to use foresight on small pox - not that it is the existential threat it used to be, but that there are still stocks of the old virus - in weaponized and non-weaponized forms - that exist for "research purposes". Those stocks in the hands of an irresponsible lab (say, like the L4 lab in Wuhan) pose a very real threat to world health today.
Supposedly there are 2 locations in the world where there are live smallpox samples, one in the aforementioned siberian lab and the other in the US at the CDC in Atlanta. But there are speculations about other countries having secret samples. In 2014 6 vials of smallpox were found in a corner of a storage room in Maryland belonging to the FDA that had taken over the location that had been a virology laboratory in the 1950s. They belive they were simply over looked when they were moving out. It was immediately turned over to the CDC and moved to Atlanta. There was nothing said about it being alive or a dead samples. In order for the sample to stay alive for that long it would have had to be in a oxygen free container. But how do we know it hadn't been 7 or 8? What if the person who found it didn't know that it was labeled by the virus' real name, variola, and simply dumped it somewhere that caused a sort of outbreak? How many more accidental misplacements are waiting out there to be discovered?
You gotta have the Diptet, H.I.!
Yup. DipTet, or DTP, is the #1 vaccine most every place looks for you to have.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1WtLsRZYGm8
Yea, this is a good list (except they don't vaccinate for smallpox anymore, and haven't for some time). When I was younger, the list was shorter still, but that selection covers the actual relevant items and skips literally a dozen additional extemporaneous vaccines.
All.
https://youtu.be/V_deYlKJWOk
Polio is caused by drinking water contaminated with feces. Not a modern problem with hygiene, good plumbing, and drinking water.
https://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/how-plumbing-not-vaccines-eradicated-disease
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/vaccine-secrets/video-chapters/vaccines-do-not-deserve-the-credit-for-reducing-contagious-diseases/
Vaccines cause autoimmune disorders.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Fd6QvdGxOMfd/
This ^ doctor treats patients affected negatively by vaccines. The primary ones being people who travel a lot and missionaries because the so many vaccines cause health problems.
Vaccines in kids cause inflammatory responses that cause autoimmune diseases. The vaccine schedule for kids today is very large.
You’re welcome to do your own research, but this is what I’ve discovered.
Lastly here’s a interview with an ex-vaccine researcher: http://www.laleva.org/eng/2007/07/jon_rappoport_interview_of_ex_vaccine_researcher.html
How long can you wait to vaccinate them? This is a question that I have not fully fleshed out. IMO, they should be vaccinated only once they start weaning off of breastmilk.
For the first period of a baby's life, the mother is critical to the baby's immune system. The mother's milk provides the antibodies that the child will need to fight off disease. But if you vaccinate the baby, the mother never gets the viruses and therefore cannot make antibodies to help fight it off. So if the vaccine is contaminated, the baby will be left to fight it off from it's own weak immune system.
I'm guessing that a baby can wait until the age at which they can go to a nursery or preschool. At that point, they will have their own immune system and be much better off in taking vaccines. But I know someone who supposedly got permanently sick from a vaccine around the age of five. If you have a family history of issues with your lymph nodes, the heavy metals in the chicken egg vaccine may too big of a risk at any point in childhood. The heavy metals in the chicken egg vaccine were the biggest risk, and I can see how they would cause lymph node issues, but not something like autism, unless you gave it to your newborn in the first few months of life.
Remember that the doctor works for you, and you can always politely delay or decline medical treatment. I bold politely because they may get frustrated with you, but it's critical that you remain calm but firm in case they do anything against your wishes and you need to sue them.
Here's my limited analysis so far. I have a science background, but I'm not a medical professional, so please consult a doctor you trust with any decisions you are going to make:
Avoid the flu vaccine for sure for kids unless you have a family history of a weakened immune system. Kids do not need flu vaccines. Old people and immunocompromised people do. The flu vaccines are always human cell line. There is no other way to make them.
The MMR, IPV, and DTaP vaccines are very important to take before they interact with other kids in public. Ask your doctor for the brands of these and whether you can get them as chicken-egg vaccines. They were around long before human cell line vaccines, so they have chicken egg variants. However, if you have a family history that makes you particularly susceptible to heavy metals, you might want to go with the newest variant of the vaccines.
Varicella vaccine is not important for young kids. It's chicken pox. Chicken pox is not very harmful to children. It's harmful to adults who have never had it. You can get this vaccine later. Or better yet, you can intentionally infect your kid with chicken pox like we used to do before the vaccine.
My problem with this, is pertussis in the very young can kill them, regardless of the mother, and it is heartbreaking to watch. There was an outbreak in Northern Australia 7ish years ago that brought up this problem. Transmission was commonly found to be passed from siblings, but unless you want to isolate your baby the full first year of its life, you may need to rethink your timeline. That said I’m not against spacing it out a bit more than it currently is, just that some of the more prevalent ones should be had sooner not later.
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-cdi3803c.htm
And to view the severity:
https://youtu.be/oYCkr3YxjIY
Recommended age for the first dose of this vaccine is 6-8 weeks. That baby is 7 weeks.
Fair. IPV you may want asap. But still request the chicken egg vaccine.
Copying from below:
Start here: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7rrf4s/the_skeptics_guide_to_vaccines_part_ii/ Sorry for the Reddit link, but sources and scientific studies are cited. I know this user was banned, so hopefully all the links work. If not, they hang out on conspiracies.win and I bet they’ll answer questions if you have them.
Show me 10 years of data proving the vaccine safe, them we can talk.
Until then, enjoy your experimental eugenics.
Vaccine 2031!
As a white male I believe it is my duty to allow minorities and women access to any vaccine that would be allocated to my privileged self, you're welcome
As a white male I assume the vaccine is an attempt on my life.
FIRST it’s not a vaccine. It’s experimental gene editing that has never been tested by the FDA and there is NO liability for the pharmaceutical companies. Animal testing was halted because of the severe allergic reactions to the animals. It also destroyed the animals immune system.
Our family doctor has advised us to wait on getting vaccinated....even he is skeptical.
I'd rather take my chances of catching this cold going around, than trusting a syringe full of something the government so urgently wants me to take.
I’m not even really that against the vaccine. I’m not getting it out of a sense of stubbornness. I’m not getting the vaccine just to spite these liberal fucks telling me to comply. I’m not injecting myself with an experimental substance that doesn’t even prevent you from getting the diesels, only minimizes the effects, and that hasn’t been fully tested yet.
Even were I not opposed to the vaccine for being barely-tested mRNA technology... I still wouldn't get it at this point, out of principle.
No mark of the beast for me, thanks.
I concur 1000%.
However, we've got a big problem in that the majority of people are so scared shitless that they don't want to go back to normal life until everyone is vaccinated and the majority would likely vote to force the treatment on the rest of us. If we don't come up with a real solution here, we're probably all gonna get fucked over. I propose the following compromise as a path to get everyone to develop antibodies:
Everyone should be given the opportunity to be given the vaccine---OR---the opportunity to become infected with Sars-Cov-2 and go into isolation for 14-days while recovering from COVID19
After either taking the vaccine or recovering from natural infection, that person should be considered to have enough immunity to go back to life as normal with absolutely zero restrictions on their freedoms.
The vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated.
Unless their vaccine doesn't work. In which case they shouldn't be pressuring me to get a vaccine they admit doesn't work, for a virus that is extremely NON-DEADLY to me, with a great number of unintended consequences and health risks.
I agree, but I expect it will take many years or possibly decades to actually educate people on that. Meanwhile, they will empower the sociopaths in government to force vaccinations on us all to the benefit of pharma chemical corporations. The next best alternative might be "proof of antibodies" instead of proof of vaccination.
But what if we just claim our natural God-given rights, and kill those who try to take them?
wait, that's illegal
Your proposal that I be required to intentionally infect myself in order to enjoy my inalienable rights is, quite frankly, statist bullshit.
Sars-Cov-2 is now endemic. We're all gonna get exposed to it eventually. If we were to organize chicken pox style "COVID parties" and rapidly get it over with, the enemy would immediately lose all their power.
Oh yeah. And I'm probably gonna get it if I haven't already. I have no problem with that. I might even attend a covid party voluntarily. Allowing the government mandate it is a hard line though, imagine what sort of abuse they would use that power for, if they felt they owned your body.
They created the fear. They could use the same tactics to dispel it. It would destroy their credibility, but forced vaccination or infection isn't the right answer. Strange, how you think it is, given your user name.
I'm ok with getting the wild virus and recovering naturally. There are plenty of treatments that make the process safe and relatively easy for everyone.
Governments around the world are controlled by big pharma and are gearing up to enact vaccine passports. Imo, we ignore that at our peril. Time to get proactive.
Our only solution for the vaxxers is this: "If you even try to fuck with us (for being unvaxxed), we will kill you." And sadly, we're gonna have to establish some credibility, since we've been all talk and zero action lately.
Let them starve. Seriously. Let them die
I'd rather get covid again, the odds seem better.
We need to stop calling it a Vaccine. It is not a Vaccine. It doesn't contain an attenuated virus like all other vaccines do. It is a gene therapy injection made to manipulate your DNA.
DR.SHIVA LIVE: MRNA VACCINE - A REDUCTIONIST "IMMUNITY" APPROACH. NEED FOR SYSTEMS IMMUNOLOGY. https://www.bitchute.com/video/i8QAvobsH5RM/
Gene therapy, ya I'm good.
They can vaccinate my dead body all they like.
I'll take it, in 2023 after the trials are over.
I am not anti vax, but the more you punish and censor people for even simply raising questions, the more I doubt you. It’s as simple as doing your job to question authority, one of the parting messages from the late George Carlin (who ironically is a massive lefty that if he were alive today would have already gotten cancelled by the left).
Also, is it true that the “vaccine” doesn’t even contain the dna/rna of the actual corona virus and instead it has the rna of some side virus that is supposed to be similar to corona? So it’s not even a real vaccine but more like a booster shot?
Like giving you knee pads when you're expecting a shot to the chest. Then you get it in the crotch and they say that's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. Of course you want knee pads - in case the shot to your crotch or chest would have hit your knees - idiot!
How are we supposed to defend you against a shot to the crotch and/or chest... let alone your head! You're such an idiot. No wonder you're against knee pads. You don't even know what they're for!
Fuck if you don't know your knees are connected to your chest, groin and head... there's no helping you.
(if you become fluent in Honk, you'll be OK in the coming years)
COERCION:noun
Examples: "You can't see your grandkids unless you take the vaccine"
"When everyone takes the vaccine, we can go back to normal."
Radio campaigns shaming any/all legitimate dissenting thoughts..
They have one near me, paid for by the government of Ontario, that has a guy saying several benign excuses like "I only hang out with a couple friends" "I don't feel sick" "I don't get wearing a mask AND social distancing" and then the propaganda proceeds to threaten that these sorts of people are extending the lockdowns for us all (always playing the 'us' part and putting 'you' in the open).. and then says 'until everyone gets the vaccine' or 'until we all get the vaccine..' we need to do our part to save lives blah blah...
Honestly I expect the government to be a bunch of faggots but who honestly takes the 500$ paycheck to voice this shit without any integrity. If I were a voice actor being paid to read a bunch of illegal treasonous unconstitutional bullshit propaganda I would immediately call everyone in the room a fucking communist pedophile and start telling everyone I know what they're planning to do. I guess that's why they haven't offered me the job...
Nuremberg Code. They cannot force a medical procedure on you.
Until this gets approved by the FDA anyway. They've been legally forcing vaccinations on us in many areas for over a hundred years. This shot will get FDA approval and then it'll become mandatory under Jacobson v Massachusetts. We won't be allowed to have religious exemptions either using that case if they really want to make a point.
The Supreme Court ruled against individual rights in 1905 and our Supreme Cucks today will uphold it. Considering all the other unconstitutional crap that has happened recently as well as the last few decades, the passports won't be stopped if the ones pushing it play their cards right. It has push back now, but so did the lockdowns. Many areas are still shut down or mostly shut down and there hasn't been a single protest in months.
Don't trust in what you think they "can't" do. They have a commie mindset, yes, but they still grew up in America. Americans don't take kindly to being told what they can't do. We traditionally find a way to do it anyway out of spite if nothing else.
source on countries agreeing to follow Nuremburg Code?
It would really be a huge win for Bill Gates and the globalists if this "vaccine" ended up sterilizing most people.
Or kicking of a massive auto-immune attack as the programmed response to a virus outbreak.
Bear in mind that Gates and his family aren't participating in this project...
I would have considered the vaccine if they hadn't been so fucking weird about it. Now? Not a fucking chance.
Bill gates should stick to selling his stolen software.
I now have family members who are getting vaccinated and my unwillingness to do so is interpreted as a judgement of their actions. Annoying.
I got the vaccine, I am of an age where it made sense to me. I have no problem with anyone who declines. That is how a free and tolerant society is supposed to work.
We dont live in a free and tolerant society anymore, if you haven’t noticed
I said that it's how a free society is supposed to work
As a general rule, when people try to make me afraid I question their motives, instead of believing them.
I've found that to be a generally excellent test of intelligence. If you always believe people who are trying to scare you, chances are you're a stupid person.
I will literally go off in live in the ozarks like woody Harrelson in the movie 2012.
I like Woody Harrelson. But that movie has John CuckSack, the posterboy for cuck, and Danny Glover. Two communist faggots.
So the movie probably sucks.
Oh you will. Don't worry. They plan to deny anyone goods and services who don't get it.
The emails from HR and colleges pushing the vaccine are a clear sign I shouldn't.
Conservatives need to come out with their own 'Vaccine' and force it on leftists. Only then will they comprehend.
It's called lead
Lead as in the metal, not Lead as in the thing leaders do... Right?!
Yes. Like Pb known to some but I'm not talking sandwiches
It's the whole, "you legal EVIL AMERICANS, you have to be vaccinated.
You illegal immigrant horde, you're so precious. You get vacinnated with volunteer only."
That's the whole thing that gets me when they come out with these new Laws Law Abiding American Citizens gotta jump through hoops and Obey Or Else!
:/
I would rather go to jail than get vaccinated
what if they vaccinate you at the jail? freedom does not apply there
I'm already vaccinated for other things (especially having gone to southeast asia a few times). But I'll upvote for covid vaccine nonsense. Yeah, like I'm going to trust these officials that went around saying there's no human transmission, hug a chinese, and the CCP is awesome for half a year at the start. Then later on wear 4 masks and no one can go out to earn a living. What a joke.
Can't upvote.
If the vaccine ACTUALLY provides immunity to an ACTUALLY deadly disease during an ACTUAL pandemic and is ACTUALLY tested and ACTUALLY effective...
Then I'll still need to be able to hold the people who make it responsible if something goes wrong! Seriously, there's so much wrong with this so-called vaccine that I don't understand why people are throwing themselves under the bus in order to take it. The damn thing's more dangerous than the disease (not that this is a high standard...)
Tell normies that you want your vaccine to instead go to the poor worldwide who are at the bottom of the list.
Nothing makes sense with this vaccine so I won't be participating.
My spouse, a gibbering wreck of media-induced coviphobia, is planning on getting the jab and hailing it like the Second Coming of Christ. I won't touch that syringe of government-approved damnation with a ten foot pole. We don't talk about this subject anymore.
My parents are getting it so "we can have easter as a family" ... I've given up talking rationally on any of this. It's sad.
don't worry about it, let them do them and you do you.
I'm very live-and-let-live, and I don't blame them for getting it. I just wish we could talk honestly about everything.
The only vaccines I will ever take are the ones that have been proven safe with many years of data behind them.
As far as Covid goes... oh hell no.
you can stick that vaccine in my cold, dead body
Why would I take a "vaccine" for a disease I've already had, that has a death rate of 0.03%?
I do not trust the CDC, the WHO, Bill Gates, China, the pharmaceutical companies, the corporate doctors, the media, the government, etc, etc.
No vaccine for me.
I wrote this as a reply to another comment, I want others to see it.
Take a single semester of college biology and the technology and processes behind it make complete sense. I understand how these vaccines are supposed to woks and why. RNA is a single strand (DNA is double stranded) nucleic acid chain that is used to catalyze cell reactions and synthesize proteins. Different kinds of RNA exist, like mRNA, tRNA, and rRNA. mRNA is produced by our bodies cells after being transcribed from DNA, and when working in conjunction with tRNA and rRNA, mRNA is used as a translator tool for the creation of proteins that carry out cell functions. mRNA, as it’s used in these vaccines, is to replicate the spike protein, which is the appendages on the surface of the virus. The idea is that the mRNA will be taken up by our cells, and the protein synthesis process will occur, producing the spike protein. But our bodies don’t know what the spike protein is, so it triggers an immune response. This, in theory, should shield you from Covid.
But that’s just the theory. All that said, I still don’t trust it, and it’s not because I believe the nanobot conspiracies, or think an mRNA vaccine will alter your DNA (in short, it’s not possible). I don’t trust it because:
The amount of politicization behind the vaccine, and Covid at large. This is the most important factor for me. Between thinly veiled threats of restricting freedom of movement, to threatening to take children from parents who refuse to comply, the vaccine and its rollout seems more about public control than public safety. This cannot be overstated enough, given the “conspiracy” of vaccine passports and other tracking measures.
The fact that mRNA vaccines have previously yielded no results. Sure you can chalk this up to the billions spent on research, but I find it hard to believe that a vaccine was able to be produced in record time for a virus that previously didn’t exist, and have claims of 90-95% efficacy. Which leads me to...
Efficacy of the vaccine - it doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid, or spreading Covid if you catch it, but rather reduce your symptoms one you have it. It reduces the severity of the condition. Why is the vaccine being pushed so hard when it doesn’t even stop Covid?
The skipped human trials. There was a soft trial period of a few weeks, but no long term study on the long term effects of the vaccine. It received emergency authorization use by the FDA, which is basically a Hail Mary hope that the vaccine works and if it doesn’t, oh well.
The legal immunity from the companies that produced it. Let’s say there’s long term side effects that haven’t been uncovered yet. The government granted the biotech companies legal immunity so they can’t be sued for malpractice or mass harm caused by the vaccine.
Much of the conversation about Covid is “trusting the science”. Well if we trusted the science, masks wouldn’t be mandated (they don’t work unless the mask is rated to stop viral particles), and we wouldn’t have locked down economy in the name of a pandemic. We’re on day 380 of 15 days to slow the spread. The pandemic seems to be a Trojan horse for trusting the policy makers, who wave their Ministry of Truth wands to alter the information to fit whatever their current narrative is.
All in all, the vaccine seems to be more of a bandaid fix for a virus we still don’t have control over, and the government’s authoritarian approach and year-long blitzkrieg against personal freedom makes me believe the vaccine is the vehicle by which they implement communism. Full societal control, and weed out the dissidents with the vaccine’s rollout.
Same. I’ll wait until 2023 until AFTER the human trials are over. Then I still won’t.
I'm not touching this shit. Fauci can take my "vaccines" and use them as an enema.
If you’ve had Covid what is the purpose of getting vaccinated, maybe a booster? But it’s only been around 18 months.
I’ll take it when the risk of of the virus outweighs the risk of the vaccine, AND they stop trying to force me to take it.
There was something posted either here or on Gab recently where a virologist was on the Triggernometry podcast, and he said that the instance of death if you’re under 70 is so low that they can’t even tell if the vaccine saves lives, because basically it’d be within margin of error even if it did.
But yeah, if you try to force me into taking it, I’m not taking it. Even if it was proved 100% safe and effective. Because fuck them.
I have no problem with vaccines, vaccines have done a lot of good for the world...
What I do have a problem with is a "vaccine" that (apparently):
doesn't stop you from getting the disease
doesn't stop you from transmitting the disease
doesn't stop you from getting symptoms
was developed in an alarmingly short period of time
has lots of side effects
can cause anaphylaxis
can cause blood clots
was developed by companies that hold no liability
is being forced on me