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sordfysh 30 points ago +32 / -2

I'm for chicken-egg vaccines. They have been tried and tested for ages.

I'm not on board with these human cell or mRNA vaccines until the FDA proves that they have created a full set of tests to address new risks involved with the new vaccine production methods.

As of now, they still haven't properly tested any human cell vaccines, which include flu vaccines. They literally don't know if the vaccines are being contaminated with retroviruses. I would not expect HIV to be one of the retroviruses present, but retroviruses are very nasty but almost impossible to spread, since you would need direct transmission of plasma in such a way that preserves viroids. But the vaccines do it.

Chicken egg vaccines are safe, though, because you can't be infected by chicken retroviruses. Also, the chicken egg is not a great place for retroviruses to propagate, unlike a living, propagated human cell.

Lmk if any of you want the science behind this stuff. I used to be totally pro-vaxx until this last year when someone raised the concerns about the human-cell-line vaccines. I dug in, and the science is significantly lacking on safety for the new vaccines. The new vaccines since 2008 COULD scientifically cause autism, and the FDA doesn't even deny the potential causality in their science reports.

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FuckGovernment 9 points ago +9 / -0

Someone in my family has a newborn on the way.

Which vaccines are tried and true and moral to give to a newborn baby?

Which ones should be avoided?