That's true. It's also true that the existence of short women, or an average, doesn't tell you anything at all about the height of a specific women. More to the point, height is genetic, modified by nutrition and occasionally mutation. Conduct isn't. Hence, your analogy is stupid.
I never made any claim about the height of any specific woman, so you’re rebutting something I never said. And no, gender differences in height are not a result of “nutrition” - suggesting that women are shorter than men because they are universally fed less/worse than men is ridiculous. Women who are fed less/worse may well end up shorter than women who are well fed, but women who are fed just as well as men will still be, on average, shorter than men.
I also never claimed that “conduct” was defined by race, so again you’re rebutting something I never said. If conduct was defined by race then Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell could never exist. It’s a fact that black communities have different standards of “conduct” that results in different life outcomes. The cause for those different standards - like rates of single mothers, drug use, literacy, educational attainment, crime rates, employment/welfare - can be debated, but the fact that they are different cannot.
So I don’t think the stupidity is on my side of the fence, champ.
You're too fucking slow for this conversation. I was pointing out the problems with the analogy, but I didn't spell it out like children's poetry, so you don't understand. E.g., individual differences in height are a result of genes, nutrition, and mutation. Gender is a distribution for the population attribute, not a determinant for the individual. You're stupidly going the other way, e.g. "blacks are X." There aren't many things true that complete that statement, and conduct aren't any of those things. And I didn't say anything about "universally fed," but fuck it; I don't have time to respond to every single stupid tangent you fly off on.
My point, as you can see from the fucking comment, itself, was in response to grandfather_nurgle's OP (look at the labels on the graphic) and subsequent comment about his/her racism being well-informed, and then conservativeyuppie's comment re: rules vs. exceptions, "most blacks" "their own people," etc. Then you chimed in w/the "existence of tall women" inapplicable analogy. I didn't SAY you ever said anything about conduct being defined by race, but the inverse is the point you were responding to. And, fucking AGAIN, height is a genetic attribute, and conduct isn't. The people I named aren't "exceptions," they're obvious examples. "Black communities" DON'T "have different standards of conduct;" SOME do. Fuck sakes, have you ever been to Appalachia? Every "different standard" you listed is a CULTURAL-, not COLOR-dependent variable.
So...YEAH, the stupidity is squarely on YOUR side of the fence. Champ. In fact, you've got a whole, entire fucking yard and playset of it.
The existence of tall women doesn’t change the fact that as a group women are shorter than men.
That's true. It's also true that the existence of short women, or an average, doesn't tell you anything at all about the height of a specific women. More to the point, height is genetic, modified by nutrition and occasionally mutation. Conduct isn't. Hence, your analogy is stupid.
I never made any claim about the height of any specific woman, so you’re rebutting something I never said. And no, gender differences in height are not a result of “nutrition” - suggesting that women are shorter than men because they are universally fed less/worse than men is ridiculous. Women who are fed less/worse may well end up shorter than women who are well fed, but women who are fed just as well as men will still be, on average, shorter than men.
I also never claimed that “conduct” was defined by race, so again you’re rebutting something I never said. If conduct was defined by race then Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell could never exist. It’s a fact that black communities have different standards of “conduct” that results in different life outcomes. The cause for those different standards - like rates of single mothers, drug use, literacy, educational attainment, crime rates, employment/welfare - can be debated, but the fact that they are different cannot.
So I don’t think the stupidity is on my side of the fence, champ.
You're too fucking slow for this conversation. I was pointing out the problems with the analogy, but I didn't spell it out like children's poetry, so you don't understand. E.g., individual differences in height are a result of genes, nutrition, and mutation. Gender is a distribution for the population attribute, not a determinant for the individual. You're stupidly going the other way, e.g. "blacks are X." There aren't many things true that complete that statement, and conduct aren't any of those things. And I didn't say anything about "universally fed," but fuck it; I don't have time to respond to every single stupid tangent you fly off on.
My point, as you can see from the fucking comment, itself, was in response to grandfather_nurgle's OP (look at the labels on the graphic) and subsequent comment about his/her racism being well-informed, and then conservativeyuppie's comment re: rules vs. exceptions, "most blacks" "their own people," etc. Then you chimed in w/the "existence of tall women" inapplicable analogy. I didn't SAY you ever said anything about conduct being defined by race, but the inverse is the point you were responding to. And, fucking AGAIN, height is a genetic attribute, and conduct isn't. The people I named aren't "exceptions," they're obvious examples. "Black communities" DON'T "have different standards of conduct;" SOME do. Fuck sakes, have you ever been to Appalachia? Every "different standard" you listed is a CULTURAL-, not COLOR-dependent variable.
So...YEAH, the stupidity is squarely on YOUR side of the fence. Champ. In fact, you've got a whole, entire fucking yard and playset of it.