Stop it. It is a bad bill.
Many bills have good and bad parts.
She wants a good clean bill, and she's right.
Stop listening to Cucker Carlson!!
I'm a South Dakotan. She's right. Cucker is wrong.
People who understand that there will always be someone who thinks they can do things better. If you dont like what they sticky, go build your own site.
This, exactly. ^^^ Mods need to be a little more discriminatory about stickies too. Garbage-tier memes and shit that's not important is making it to the top.
Yes it includes mods. Mods == gods and fuck the mods for stickying this bullshit post. I got banned from Reddit for calling the admins fags, let’s see if our mods here still have big dicks like T_D or have become faggots too.
Stop being faggots mods. This is a stupid bullshit post to sticky.
Nothing bullshit about this post . Noem vetoed it and the only reason she gave for 2 weeks was because of the fallout with the NCAA.
This bill was debated for 10 weeks and not a peep out of her. It took 2 weeks for her to identify the language she supposedly had trouble with.
As far as Noem and this site is concerned, the issue is too many people simping for her.
RINO'S are crafty chameleanes rarely showing their stripes until it is too late. In this case Noem let the cat out of the bag and exposed herself. Just like Ted Cruz with his flip flopping on TPP.
These people can be allies, but never should be fully trusted. I can count the politicians I trust on 2 hands or less. Jim Jordan, Louis Gohmert, Matt Geatz, Ron Desantis, a few more, but not many.
Cuckery apologists like the fags in this subthread are why the Republican party has failed to accomplish anything it talks about for like 3 or 4 decades.
MUH OPTICS MUH CLEAN BILLS MUH PRETENDING ANY OF THIS SHIT IS REAL
Fuck you. I want to crush the opposition, not masturbate in public for another 3 decades.
Not only that, more controversial topics have more information in them, more sources get posted, and we can get closer to the bottom of things. For instance, did you know that Kristi Noem recommended changes that gutted this bill? The doubters here are actually right. But I only found out about that because this topic became argued about and information got posted.
Add in some Ideological Purity, that isn't that different from Cancel Culture, and you've got it.
We need to go back and learn about all of the disagreements the Founding Fathers had at the 1st Constitutional Conference, yet they still came together because they kept their eye on the common goal.
This is a good point. Over recently posted something about ted Cruz because a bunch of people were giving him unnecessary hate. A good MAGA person- someone we can get along with- didn't necessarily have to be for throwing commies out of choppers like some here. We can work with these people with out conceding our solid beliefs. No crossing the aisle! I'm not saying that, and I realize it's a fine line or perhaps I've already blurred the line; but we'll have to work with people who are 70% aligned with us. The movement will fail if we don't take everyone in.
Geotus himself has done this. His coalition isall sorts of people.
Got 2 points. The Dems have succeeded because they control the cultural narrative. A lot of the Dems strength and appeal for Socialism is because they have destroyed the nuclear family.
Dudes are not females, at some point, sanity needs to reign supreme.
Ted Cruz called everyone at the capital terrorists and repeatedly claimed they murdered police a month after we knew no police were murdered. He's a piece of shit throwing his own supporters under the bus so the left will give him favorable coverage. If he's the nominee in 2024 i'm not voting for him.
That is why Trump didn't achieve what he wanted.Trump was meant to rule like a strong man but he ruled like a centrist and ducked when needed.why do you advocate for cuckoldry?
Lmao, having fun going through my comment history? Typical redditor thing to do. I think you're the homeless one. I've been part of t_d since 2015, never heard of you.
I heard a Gov. Noem interview on Bongino's show a couple days ago. She has said unequivocatingly she wants to sign a bill that protects girls/womens sports, but this one has serious flaws. She and others are touting the Tenn. bill recently passed as the model for how she wants the S.Dak. one written.
So, the legislature didn't have enough to override Noem's veto.. So the frick what?! Maybe they should knock off the powerplay, and focus on passing a bill with either the suggested changes, or make it a direct copy of the Tennessee law. Work together to get it done. Republicans have trifecta-control of both chambers and the governorship in South Dakota; why are they being idiots and turning this into some kinda fight? Why are they giving Democrats ammo for the next election ("See, Republicans hate women/girls. Vote for us... <blah blah>")???
I'd love to go over that. Sounds like you're familiar with Noem's voting record. Post a link or two as to her record? If there is another (non-Leftist) site that's analyzed her voting record, I'd love to read that, too. Thanks in advance.
Sorry I am low tech and don't know how to link to other sites. A site named Revolver news had a informative piece on Noem. I was a supporter for her congressional run and was disappointed by her votes.
I keep hearing about these so called flaws but I haven't heard any specifics to explain what these flaws are that make this a bad bill. And when they dont get specific, I get suspicious...that its just an excuse. I know I heard Noem say she didn't want to pass it because NAACP would exclude S.D. from participating but that was all
Well, it would behoove us all to read:
(1) the bill that was sent to Gov Noem's desk;
(2) the specific suggestions she sent with the bill back to state legislature; and
(3) the bills passed by other states (like Tennessee's law that Noem and legal folks say are stronger and cleaner).
So... I take it then, you haven't read any of the things listed, right? And yet you have such a definite opinion of the situation and of Governor Noem... [I will gladly admit wrong, if you have.] If you have, then I'd love to hear specifics as to your objections to her not signing; vague, blanket non-specific comments don't count.
Good points 👏
We depend on others to do the digging and interpret things for us, understandably because there isn't that much time with everything that comes out tbh
(1) Did she veto the bill? Or just didn't sign it?
[Don't know SD's state constitution, but at the federal level
The Constitution grants the president 10 days to review a measure passed by the Congress. If the president has not signed the bill after 10 days, it becomes law without his signature. However, if Congress adjourns during the 10-day period, the bill does not become law.
The president's inaction on the legislation, while Congress is adjourned, represents a pocket veto.
(2) My understanding of it is that Gov Noem sent the bill back to the legislature with her objections and suggestions. Are you saying that she didn't include those objections and suggestions to the state legislature at the time she sent it back? And then 2 weeks later she added her reasons/suggestions? Or are you saying that she didn't explain it to her constituency til two weeks later?
Real annoyed with Bongino interview when he just didn't get it. She wants the bill written correctly, not just to do it. If you just pass some garbage written law, it will be struck down and waste everyone's time. Tennessee already has a bill to model after with good language, she wants that language. "we'll have to agree to disagree, I really want to at least start with garbage, so when it gets struck and you lose a lot of $$, everyone will feel defeated and give up. That's a good start."
She seems to be looking for more specificity in language used. She requested the specific revisions that would lead to her passing the bill. None of them seem prohibitive.
There is already legislation elsewhere in the country that has been passed which future legislation could be based on instead of a blank slate. This would also address her other concern regarding a “patchwork” approach which would effectively break collegiate athletics programs.
Yep. All the Faux Noise cocksuckers are out here shitting on conservatives to divide us. She's one of the few that refused to cuck on lockdowns and I think is on our side. This bill has shitty language and Idaho passed something like this and it's getting shot down in the courts as we speak. She wants a clean bill. If people just listened to her reasons and had nuance they'd understand.
This is why the right loses: we don't stick together and eat our own.
Weird, one of her tweets decried the following situation: Person doesn't make a football team. Person later finds out that a steroid user didn't disclose using steroids before joining the team. Person who didn't make the team can now sue the steroid user.
if you're talking about attending the inauguration, people like Hawley and Cruz attended too even though they objected to the electors on 1/6. They invite all members of Congress and governors to attend the event as dignitaries, regardless of whether it's a Dem or Rep getting sworn in. It's customary and goes way back. Doesn't mean she "endorses the fraud".
Hawley and Cruz are both frauds too, not the best example to set. One is apart of Conservative Inc, the other is apart of Populist Inc, and they're on a ship that is sailing nowhere, all talk, no game.
My point is that Pelosi went to Trump's inauguration and even joked around with him on 1/20/17. Does that make her "based"? No! She was simply there because it was tradition.
Does it make Noem "cucked" if she attended this one? No. It was simply tradition.
you will get thinking like this. The fact of the matter is you won we need votes. Your prize for being so red-pilled is your pride. You get to keep it even when locked in the gulag.
Language like this, being so hardlinee- even though correct- won't win. Again I defer to GEOTUS. His coalition comprises of many. He didn't say, " F you all! I'll win with 7 people who think EXACTLY like me."
You searching for the utopia where millions think exactly like us and GEPTUS will lead you no where.
I said something to this effect when it was reported that she wanted to review and consider the bill. The obligatory “get fucked shill” comments soon followed
Probably from the same people who were linking Cucker monologues and Faux News posts 4 years after the rest of us stopped watching that shit, if they were even OG meme war vets in the first place.
So that's all it takes for us to melt over a politician, doing the right thing when most are doing the wrong thing? Fuck politicians I'd rather drag my balls through broken glass than to trust any of the uniparty members until I am absolutely certain they walk the walk not just talk the talk.
The problem with republicans will always be they always search within the uniparty for their savior. I doubt a career politician can ever "save us" just keep the one step forward three step backwards shuffle they love to do.
Noam didn't do anything exceptional keeping her state open, the numbers were never alarming so why fuck the economy over? She also is in a state 90% of americans couldn't careless about. What you have to ask is if she was the governor of Florida would she have caved then? Well she attended Xiden's inauguration so I am sure the answer is between these lines somewhere.....
He provided the platform for her to explain herself and you can find it on his website of u wanna hear her explain it herself. He has the show broke down in to hours. She might have been on during the 2nd hour last Tuesday or Wednesday?
If beck isn't hardline enough for you on something don't forget; the leftists purge any voice who doesn't totally align with them too. Don't be like the left. If u think beck is a cuck on some issue you are mistaken if you think he's an enemy.
She wants to pass the same bill Tennessee just did but they wanted to add extra stuff in it that would for sure be taken to court and struck down by liberal judges.
She is totally in the right on this and it’s unreal that people are turning on her.
Yes, it would block trannies in girls sports, but it had all sorts of bad language.
Such as a player that failed to make any team could sue the school and all players that did make the team, up to two years later, if it were later determined a player that did make the cut, did so by cheating.
So imagine your some college kid that worked your ass off to make a team.
Later, and completely unknown to you, some player on your team admits to using steroids.
Every single person that tried out for, and didn't make the team, can now sue you personally because your didn't stop that person from cheating which denied someone else a rightful spot on roster.
I heard about Noem killing this bill and how is it bad just this morning, and I thought to myself "I need to wait at least a day or two before reacting, because I remember how much the Fake News lie and the truth will reveal itself in time."
Well, it looks like I was right again about waiting. It turns out that Fake News is not giving us the whole story and is lying by omission and misdirection, AGAIN.
That's the whole fucking point. This bill was dogshit since it would allow you to sue the school and other students on the team for steroid abuse. That's why this bill sucks cock and Noem was right to send it back.
Idaho wrote a bill with similar language to this bill and it's getting shot down in the 9th Circuit as we speak. Noem wanted to edit the language to make it "activist judge proof".
Ha ha. Like that exists. They stopped the travel ban despite the law stating "the president can stop immigration from anywhere, at any time, for any reason". Just rack up another L and try to convince yourself it was the right move.
Incorrect. She wanted the language of the bill to not be susceptible to court rulings that would strike the whole bill with the financial weight of the NCAA, NIKE, Under Armour, and a bunch of other child slavers behind it.
That’s their current ratings. Down 50% YoY. I’d say our people are doing a pretty damn good job of staying away. You should give them credit instead of complaining about something that isn’t happening.
It's all we got at the moment, Tucker, Hannity, Ingram, Maria Bartiromo, and Judge Janine. If it weren't for them the masses wouldn't have a clue as to what is going on. It's something and in this age where the 90% of the MSM is gaslighting us at every turn an ounce of opposition is deeply needed. Take them away and Biden's faggot run America would be 100% complete and unquestioned. Criticize them all you like but the reality is conservatives need every break they can catch in this spiraling clown world.
Listen up. Fox News is not today what it was 10, 20 years ago under Roger Ailes. I know because I was around then and have that contrast. It changed noticeably in 2017 when Paul Ryan joined Foxcorp, and perhaps even a bit before then. There's a concerted effort to change or water down what conservatism means in this country. Understand that no one is advocating that we take Carlson and the others you mentioned off the air without a suitably MAGA replacement. No one's trying to kill the voice of conservatism, we're trying to take it out of the hands of RINOs who work against Trump. Did you forget they hired Donna fuckin' Brazile and gave her a platform?
Yes we need voices in the news but they have to be the right voices, not MSM sellouts.
Thank you. We're getting as bad as the left about throwing people into the bus just because we don't like something on the surface. So again thank you for being reasonable about this. Sometimes shit is nuanced.
I think the "style and form veto" she used is a cop out. I defended her a couple of weeks ago thinking she just had issues with the wording or something, and wanted to make it stronger, but I don't think that's the case.
This is the best article I've read that explains it.
She wanted it reworded in a way that essentially renders it meaningless. For example,
Weakens Section 1 dramatically by changing the operative language of the bill. Previously the bill stated: “A team or sport designated as being female is available only to participants who are female, based on their biological sex…” She wants that edited to: "“A team or sport designated as being female is available only to participants who are female, based on their biological sex, as reflected on the birth certificate or affidavit provided upon initial enrollment…”
In other words, under Noem’s proposed changes, a biological male would easily be able to participate in women’s sports in South Dakota (even in K-12) as long as he files the proper paperwork.
Unbelievable pede look I'm not saying she's the wicked witch of the west but yeh take a dam look at her voting record I mean it's there to see thanks pede
I don't think there's anything wrong with using the birth certificate, since South Dakota is still recording biological sex on birth certificates. However, the "affidavit" part seems more concerning.
Good luck. Leftists are going birth certs and they play to win. They know how important word meanings are (laws, birth certs etc). They are running rings around everyone else. Noem is right to be concerned about the wording of bills etc.
But even “biological sex” isn’t remotely bulletproof. My professor for my psych nursing class, with a DNP, stated clearly multiple times that if they have a “sex change” then their biological sex has now changed. So if a dude who had testosterone running through his veins for half a decade gets his dick chopped off, there is now plenty of literature stating that his biological sex is now “female.” And some states would allow, and fund, this type of operation in children. An 18 year old dude gets his sex change and at 18 1/2 can go play women’s soccer in college under that original wording.
Your professor is wrong. A biological man remains a biological man until he dies, and there aren't any other kinds. We don't need to write our laws to work around professors' fantasyland pronouncements.
What I heard out of her own mouth was she was basically afraid of the Bill pissing off the NCAA and then pulling their support of SD university sports. So in my opinion, right wrong or indifferent, the reason why the bill was kill is because of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
You people don't understand why. The bill is poorly worded and she wanted it fixed so it doesn't get struck down by some activist Obama judge. She offered to send it back so they could correct the language but the legislature said no.
For reference Idaho passed a law with a similar language as this bill and they got sued and it's about to get shot down so hard in the 9th Circuit it's not even funny. That's what Noem wanted to prevent.
This is the problem with the right and why we lose: we never stick by our own. We abandon our people even at slight disagreements and get riled up over clickbait headlines without reading into WHY. The left wins because they stick together. Cucks here just want to shit on Noem without learning about why she did this -- it was to avoid a court challenge.
Also, I'm not ready to write her off yet. She's one of the few governors along with Ron DeSantis who refused to cuck on WuFlu lockdowns. She is on our side for sure.
I'm honestly more bothered that the state reps are being useless faggots:
"Fairness in Women’s Sports bill fails in the SD House,” State Rep. Fred Deutsch (R) announced on Monday. “Needed 47 votes to override the governors veto. We got 45. We’ll come back next year and try again.”
Or, here's an idea, you could FIX THE GODDAMN BILL AND RESUBMIT IT!
Republican politicians are the reason I no longer think there are any political solutions. Even in an almost completely red state, they'll take the most-likely-to-fail approach and then when it obviously doesn't work, they go "oh nooo that sucks, well we tried! Donate more!"
Noem's biggest mistake here was assuming that the state congress was also earnestly playing by the rules.
The role of the executive is to enforce the law. The executive has approval/veto power because they need to weigh in on whether a law is enforceable or not.
Oh, it's enforceable and defensible, but only if you want to put in the effort. She didn't want the fight. She has found her political ceiling. Give me someone who will fight.
“For example, Section 2 of House Bill 1217 requires a student athlete to verify, each year, that the student ‘is not taking and has not taken, during the preceding twelve months, any performance-enhancing drugs, including anabolic steroids,” Noem said. “Presumably, this requirement was included to address a student taking these drugs as a part of a gender transition, but House Bill 1217 is not limited in this way,” she continued. “Rather, if a male student athlete failed to make the football team, and later learned that another student on the team was taking steroids without disclosing it, the student who didn’t make the team would be entitled to sue both the school and the steroid-using student for damages.”
So in order to participate in sports, kids would be REQUIRED to have drug tests. As a parent, go fuck yourself. This is an invasion of privacy of my children. They should not be subjected to a drug test because we can't just look at someone and say, 'Uh fuck no, that's a dude'.
This is why it was killed. It was a shit bill that they refused to change. It allows all sorts of devious behavior by certain (((people))) in court.
Stop with the divide tactics. This bill was shit and deserved to die. We don't need laws for everything, and schools can make their own rules about this shit to keep sanity in check. Why do you cocksuckers think the government has to step in and answer every fucking question?
So in order to participate in sports, kids would be REQUIRED to have drug tests
No, that leap of logic is not in the law. And as a parent, feel free to tell the school to go fuck themselves if the are demanding to drug test your kid. This is a fake problem.
Stop with the roll over and give the trannies and the people destroying our society and our children whatever they demand. We the people are sick of this slide into hell. Noem failed. She's not qualified to lead. We need fighters.
Until the 5-4 ruling from the top, there is no recognized constitutional right for boys to compete with girls. The lesson here is not "I guess we better back off."
She can't "execute the will of the people" if the courts strike down the law. That's why she wants language that is "court proof" so to speak. You have to word it in a way so that an activist judge can't find an easy way to invalidate it, and make sure there is a pathway towards appeal and argumentation in the Supreme Court.
Just make the changes (or copy the Tenn. law) and resend it to Gov Noem for signature. If she were to not sign that which she asked for (or praised, in the case of the TN law), then I'd jump on the bandwagon against her.
For reference Idaho passed a law with a similar language as this bill and they got sued and it's about to get shot down so hard in the 9th Circuit it's not even funny. That's what Noem wanted to prevent.
And in the mean time, it's the law, and the left is wasting resources fighting it.
I remember a lot of people on this site holding her in higher esteem then Ron DeSantis. If you want a leader that knows how to conquer a swamp, look no further than a Florida man.
She vetoed it because big corporations threaten to pull out of SD. She has been bought. No amount of failure theater and glossing sugar over shit is going to cover up the fact she vetoed it.
You people don't understand why. The bill is poorly worded and she wanted it fixed so it doesn't get struck down by some activist Obama judge. She offered to send it back so they could correct the language but the legislature said no.
For reference Idaho passed a law with a similar language as this bill and they got sued and it's about to get shot down so hard in the 9th Circuit it's not even funny. That's what Noem wanted to prevent.
This is the problem with the right and why we lose: we never stick by our own. We abandon our people even at slight disagreements and get riled up over clickbait headlines without reading into WHY. The left wins because they stick together. Cucks here just want to shit on Noem without learning about why she did this -- it was to avoid a court challenge.
Also, I'm not ready to write her off yet. She's one of the few governors along with Ron DeSantis who refused to cuck on WuFlu lockdowns. She is on our side for sure.
sounds like trust the plan. Why not pass the bill and let them try, then pass another as needed. How the hell do you think things got to where they are now? Repubs don't even make 'em work for it.
There wouldn't be a Republican left without one. Mark my words, MTG and Huckabee Sanders will be just as RINO when it comes down to it. All talk until they have the opportunity to change the world for the better. That's when their inner libtard barbarian comes out in full force.
We have far more fighters than you truly realize, in both the House and the Senate. If you don't think so, stop complaining, and sign up to run for School Board, Legislature etc. At least run for GOP Precinct Committeeman. In my eyes, you shouldn't complain about something unless you're actively taking a role in fixing it.
This is nothing and a feel good bill. Noone cares about collegiate women's sports. If they wanted a real bill it would be targeted more towards kids and ensuring they couldn't be put on hormone blockers or even hormones. I feel like the reforms to women's college basketball will have to come from the NCAA who will reap the whirlwind once this shit boils over.
I really don't give a shit. Noem kept her state open when so many people closed there's and that's a trillion times more important than this. She's not perfect, but she's far better than most. This seems like a purity test and it's all for nothing. Let's focus on keeping our guns and freedoms, illegal immigration, protecting minors, keeping jobs in the US and creating jobs and wages that allow people to have kids.
I don't need feel good legislation in place of all that, but that's what RINOs are great at doing and when it gets struck down they can still act like they did something.
Just look at the glee with which the Leftist/MSM are trumpetting this. Who gains when we discard Noem for what we see as a mistake or a traitorous act (a wide spectrum, true). It won't be the Leftist/Dems destroying her; it'll be WE who will plunge the dagger. Kill off someone who has mostly done and said right. She's no Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, or many other easily-named RINOs out there. Maybe a little moderation/tempering of your all-or-nothing rhetoric is not a bad idea...
[I find the rabid emotionalism here is quite surprising, with this discussion board populated with obviously good thinkers and folks steeped in conservative principles.]
I think Prager articulates well what I'm trying to get at: Our side is oddly intolerant of any flaws in our [GOP] politicians, ready to scorch-Earth them for each mistake, great or small, even if we otherwise agree with them 80-90%. When we know that if a Leftist/Dem were to replace them, we'd disagree them with in the other direction, 80-90% (or more, these days).
Folks, can't we criticize and correct without talk of destroying someone? If we can't, we (almost) might as well start calling it Cancel Culture, conservative-style.
Because we are sick of being betrayed on EVERY ISSUE for DECADES and are not going to accept it anymore. The entire Republican office holding set needs to be replaced.
I agree with most of what you say. Now, are you ready to run for office? BTW, how many MAGA people, here and elsewhere, have we got firm commitments to run in the next election? And 2024?
Different tack (since I'm not even sure you answered my question...):
What exactly do you mean by "No more free passes"?
And what will you do as a consequence?
^^ Honest questions, I'm not being facetious or what.
I want to know what Noem was talking about with the "incorrect style or form." I saw her appearance on Tucker but she didn't give specifics about what she wanted changed. I'll happily dogpile her, but I want to know what the changes she wanted were. Or, if they are just made up excuses for deflection. She has never come across as a RINO before this, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, ONCE.
I don't know what's wrong with this bill but the fact that it died highlights the problems within the GOP. They control the house senate and gov but cant get a bill done. Democrats are painfully unified. GOP need to look at how they do it and take some notes.
fuck off cuck. she sent it back to edit the language to make it "court proof" if the aclu decides to sue. you cucks shit on noem but are fine with greg abbott and all the other republican governors cucking out on china virus.
And I'd rather shill for "Mommy Noem" than whichever Democrat is paying you to shill on here. Fuck off cuck. Learn to have some nuance (that is, if you're not a leftist shill). She sent it back to correct faulty language.
It would allow someone to sue the school and all the players on the team if they later found out one player on the team was abusing anabolic steroids. That is insane.
That's like passing a voter ID bill that also says down at the bottom "all elections shall henceforth be conducted exclusively by mail". Yes the voter ID part of it would be good, but it wouldn't be worth the other language in the bill.
DO SOME GODDAMN RESEARCH. BELOW IS A TWITTER THREAD WHERE SHE EXPLAINS WHY SHE SENT IT BACK
Unless is Tennis or maybe Volleyball, no one cares about Women Sports.
Women soccer is beyond trash. I'd rather watch the local mens league.
Also I want to see this play out for the lulz in pro sports.
Cant wait to have a roided ma'am slide tackle purple hair cunt Megan Rapinhoes into retirement.
“I have received your message that the House of Representatives failed to approve my recommendations as to changes of style and form of House Bill 1217,” Noem said in a letter to the South Dakota House of Representatives.
Noem cited a provision in the state’s Constitution that allows bills with “errors in style or form” to be returned to the State legislature, in a process that functions identically to a veto.
“Given the House action, I cannot certify that the bill conforms with my specific recommendations,” Noem wrote. “Therefore, my only option consistent with the constitution is the fail [sic] to certify the bill and return it you.”
This provision needs to be removed, she can basically veto anything she disagrees with so long as she can :cite and error." which is trivial when she'd more the likely issue a correction for something outlandish to be added to it.
I respectfully return to you House Bill 1217 with the following recommendations as to STYLE and FORM.
I believe that boys should play boys’ sports, and girls should play girls’ sports. As the legislative findings in the original version of the bill set out, “[w]ith respect to biological sex, one is either male or female[,]” and “[p]hysiological differences between males and females include ‘those most important for success in sport: categorically different strength, speed, and endurance.’”
That is why House Bill 1217 properly provides that females should have opportunities to play youth sports on teams comprised of females and against teams of females. Unfortunately, as I have studied this legislation and conferred with legal experts over the past several days, I have become concerned that this bill’s vague and overly broad language could have significant unintended consequences.
For example, Section 2 of House Bill 1217 requires a student athlete to verify, each year, that the student “is not taking and has not taken, during the preceding twelve months, any performance enhancing drugs, including anabolic steroids.”
Presumably, this requirement was included to address a student taking these drugs as a part of a gender transition, but House Bill 1217 is not limited in this way. Rather, if a male student athlete failed to make the football team, and later learned that another student on the team was taking steroids without disclosing it, the student who didn’t make the team would be entitled to sue both the school and the steroid-using student for damages.
In addition, Section 2 creates an unworkable administrative burden on schools, who under its terms must collect verification forms from every student athlete, every year, as to age, biological sex, and use of performance-enhancing drugs; and furthermore must monitor these disclosures throughout the year so that if “reasonable cause” is found of a false or misleading form, the school can take action to avoid civil liability.
I am also concerned that the approach House Bill 1217 takes is unrealistic in the context of collegiate athletics. In South Dakota, we are proud of our universities’ athletic programs, and in particular the great strides we have taken to gain national exposure and increase opportunities for our next generation over the past two decades.
South Dakota has shown that our student athletes can compete with anyone in the country, but competing on the national stage means compliance with the national governing bodies that oversee collegiate athletics. While I certainly do not always agree with the actions these sanctioning bodies take, I understand that collegiate athletics requires such a system – a fifty-state patchwork is not workable.
To achieve the legislative intent of protecting girls’ sports, while simultaneously avoiding potential unintended consequences, I recommend the following Style and Form changes to the Enrolled version of House Bill 1217:
Revise Section 1 to read:
13-67-1 Athletic teams and sports-–Designation by sex–Participation.
Any athletic team or sport that is sponsored or sanctioned by an accredited elementary or secondary school public school, a school district, or an association meeting the requirements of § 13-36-4, or an institution of higher education under the control of the Board of Regents or the South Dakota Board of Technical Education must be expressly designated as being:
(1) A male team or sport;
(2) A female team or sport; or
(3) A coeducational team or sport.
A team or sport designated as being female is available only to participants who are female, based on their biological sex, as reflected on the birth certificate or affidavit provided upon initial enrollment in accordance with verified in accordance with § 13-27-3.1 13-67-2.
Strike Section 2;
Revise former Section 3 to read:
13-67-2 3 Complaint—Investigation—Adverse Action.
A governmental entity, licensing or accrediting organization, or athletic association or organization may not entertain a complaint, open an investigation, or take any adverse action against an accredited elementary or secondary school, or a school district, or an association meeting the requirements of § 13-36-4 or an institution of higher education, or against any person employed by, or a governing board member of, such an elementary or secondary school, or school district, or institution, or an association meeting the requirements of § 13-36-4, for maintaining athletic teams or sports in accordance with § 13-67-1.
Strike Section 4.
The proposed revisions limit House Bill 1217 to elementary and secondary school athletics, which are primarily conducted among South Dakota schools and at the high school level are governed by the South Dakota High School Activities Association, a creature of South Dakota law. The proposed revisions will also remedy the vague language regarding civil liability and the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
Overall, these style and form clarifications protect women sports while also showing empathy for youths struggling with what they understand to be their gender identity. But showing empathy does not mean a biologically-female-at birth woman should face an unbalanced playing field that effectively undermines the advances made by women and for women since the implementation of Title IX in 1972. The Supreme Court of the United States has recognized that the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment allows for the law to treat women and men differently, and in this instance that equal protection afforded women absolutely should apply on our state’s elementary and high school playing fields.
I support this legislation and hope that House Bill 1217, with the changes I am proposing, becomes law. I respectfully request that you concur with my recommendations as to STYLE and FORM.
I can’t believe how quickly people here have completely turned on her based on click bait headlines. We are in real trouble right now and asking for more if we continue down this road.
You don't have to act like Noem is Judas to realize this is a bad decision. That's what it is, this doesn't mean I wouldn't support her or many of the things she did especially during lockdowns, because she was awesome on that.
It's possible to criticize without canceling someone.
She’s afraid SD will get the NC treatment and the NCAA will threaten to pull events out of SD.
Fuck the NCAA. Start your own sports org.
That’s the problem with everything in this country. Trying to adhere to the rules corrupt organizations for fear of being left out is just fucking insanity.
I still am going to reserve judgement on Noem. Based on the wording of her statement, it sounds like the assembly in SD got the bill back for correction, and instead of working on the bill to get it to conform with what Noem wanted, they tried to get the existing bill through on a super majority vote, which failed. She straight up said at one point, "Give me something that looks like Tennessee's bill." They just wouldn't do it.
Noem has to take a hit for being vague about what she objected to in the bill. She may be doing that in order to avoid legal complications. The assembly has to take a hit for trying and failing to take the easy way out.
I really don't like seeing this leftist-style railroading happening on our side. It's warranted when someone CLEARLY betrays our trust (see: Mike Pence, Amy Coney-Bullshit, Brett Kavanope, Fox News in general), but I don't think that's what's happened in South Dakota.
Im with you on that. Took a lot of digging through this thread to find out what her problem with the bill is. Too many people reacting without all the facts.
People like simply prove you didn't do any digging. Like how the 'suggestions' would allow biological males to play in female sports if they simply go through the proper paperwork and have their gender changed on the birth certificate.
Shes claiming it's just got bad verbiage but sounds line she specifically wants to exclude the NCAA bc they will sue according to her. Idk shes still saying she will pass one that's reworked.
It's all part of the plan, she's not bending over to the translobby because she's afraid of them when it comes to her inevitable presidential run, no don't say that, not about Kristi.
What? She wanted it so trans COULD participate at college level bc she didn't want to lose that NCAA (or Amazon) money. Her edits to make that happen were voted down.
This article completely leaves out the fact that she issued two executive orders, one banning biological males from competing in women's sports in any tax payer funded school, and the second EO is to draft a new bill that will do the same at the college level without it being vulnerable to NCAA lawsuits.
She had input before it got to her desk. SD doesn't have many major corporations, but it does have sports and that's the weakness of the corporatists. If she were governor of any other state, the state would have been locked down.
As far as corporations go, there aren't major ones headquartered in SD and their locations are extremely far from each other. SD consumes a lot of sports for entertainment. Retailers don't have much pull, SD has no major theme parks, and sports corporations have some influence. You don't need to have four or five major stadiums for people to consume sports.
Probably had k street write it up and even something so simple like only women play womens sports is bogged down with some shit about latvian rice tariffs included in it. Because thats how disgraceful our country is. Bureaucratic nonsense. Asking for a kleenex requires a 6 month application process. Fuck
Stop it. It is a bad bill. Many bills have good and bad parts. She wants a good clean bill, and she's right. Stop listening to Cucker Carlson!! I'm a South Dakotan. She's right. Cucker is wrong.
This site is full of anti Noam shills right now. They are left wingers disguised at trump supporters.
Noam has said repeatedly that she will pass a bill to stop men competing in women’s sports but this was the wrong bill.
This fucking site sometimes.
Does that include the mods? It is the mods that sticky stuff like this, isn't it?
I liked the idea of identifying the mod who stickies each post.
Lol who would downvote a suggestion like this?
The mods that sticky bad crap?
Democrats.
Frank, Bob, and Igor would. Charlie, Ivan, and Adam would. Who else?
People who understand that there will always be someone who thinks they can do things better. If you dont like what they sticky, go build your own site.
This, exactly. ^^^ Mods need to be a little more discriminatory about stickies too. Garbage-tier memes and shit that's not important is making it to the top.
Because this is no longer TDW. It's a fake look alike site.
Yes it includes mods. Mods == gods and fuck the mods for stickying this bullshit post. I got banned from Reddit for calling the admins fags, let’s see if our mods here still have big dicks like T_D or have become faggots too.
Stop being faggots mods. This is a stupid bullshit post to sticky.
Nothing bullshit about this post . Noem vetoed it and the only reason she gave for 2 weeks was because of the fallout with the NCAA.
This bill was debated for 10 weeks and not a peep out of her. It took 2 weeks for her to identify the language she supposedly had trouble with.
As far as Noem and this site is concerned, the issue is too many people simping for her.
RINO'S are crafty chameleanes rarely showing their stripes until it is too late. In this case Noem let the cat out of the bag and exposed herself. Just like Ted Cruz with his flip flopping on TPP.
These people can be allies, but never should be fully trusted. I can count the politicians I trust on 2 hands or less. Jim Jordan, Louis Gohmert, Matt Geatz, Ron Desantis, a few more, but not many.
Cuckery apologists like the fags in this subthread are why the Republican party has failed to accomplish anything it talks about for like 3 or 4 decades.
MUH OPTICS MUH CLEAN BILLS MUH PRETENDING ANY OF THIS SHIT IS REAL
Fuck you. I want to crush the opposition, not masturbate in public for another 3 decades.
mods are gay
totally gay. all the way gay.
It's in the mods best interest to sticky shit like this which is argued about. They want more talking/arguing, more views, more clicks.
Controversial topics are far more interesting to me than mundane ones.
Not only that, more controversial topics have more information in them, more sources get posted, and we can get closer to the bottom of things. For instance, did you know that Kristi Noem recommended changes that gutted this bill? The doubters here are actually right. But I only found out about that because this topic became argued about and information got posted.
This is actually a great take.
Add in some Ideological Purity, that isn't that different from Cancel Culture, and you've got it.
We need to go back and learn about all of the disagreements the Founding Fathers had at the 1st Constitutional Conference, yet they still came together because they kept their eye on the common goal.
This is a good point. Over recently posted something about ted Cruz because a bunch of people were giving him unnecessary hate. A good MAGA person- someone we can get along with- didn't necessarily have to be for throwing commies out of choppers like some here. We can work with these people with out conceding our solid beliefs. No crossing the aisle! I'm not saying that, and I realize it's a fine line or perhaps I've already blurred the line; but we'll have to work with people who are 70% aligned with us. The movement will fail if we don't take everyone in.
Geotus himself has done this. His coalition isall sorts of people.
I've got a slightly different take on crossing the aisle.
We are a MAGA movement, not a Republican movement. We will use the GOP because it's the most logical vessel.
But the MAGA movement welcomes independents and even disaffected Dems.
That's not crossing the aisle, it's recognizing that the aisle is a distraction of the Uniparty, and we're not playing their games anymore.
We can't fix the 2 party political system yet, but MAGA is a cultural movement, and politics is downstream from culture.
We need to coalesce around our common beliefs; Individual Liberty, Limited Government, and rooting out the corruption.
I like the way you think.
Got 2 points. The Dems have succeeded because they control the cultural narrative. A lot of the Dems strength and appeal for Socialism is because they have destroyed the nuclear family.
Ted Cruz called everyone at the capital terrorists and repeatedly claimed they murdered police a month after we knew no police were murdered. He's a piece of shit throwing his own supporters under the bus so the left will give him favorable coverage. If he's the nominee in 2024 i'm not voting for him.
That is why Trump didn't achieve what he wanted.Trump was meant to rule like a strong man but he ruled like a centrist and ducked when needed.why do you advocate for cuckoldry?
It'd be a lot cooler if they did.
No quarter for traitors and sackless cowards. Cruz cucked out when it mattered, when he could have made a difference.
When did it matter? The steal? When he was one of the ~5 who objected? How'd he cuck out?
Objected in his useless "strongly worded letter" way and then went in on the "shameful insurrection" like a good little uniparty cuck.
Pretty sure the founding fathers agreed unanimously that females do not have dicks
Also that they shouldn't be able to vote or hold office.
Operation Demoralization in full effect.
Lol they are occupying the fucking capital behind thousands of permanent military guards. It's fucking over, my dude.
Think Local, my dude
Thank you. As of the late, I was getting annoyed about the white-flag wavers too.
Dude the quality of people here has really decreased esp since Jan 6.
Lmao, having fun going through my comment history? Typical redditor thing to do. I think you're the homeless one. I've been part of t_d since 2015, never heard of you.
Sober up and take a second look. The rino gov. of Ark. signed basically the same bill. Gov. of Ten. signed an even tougher bill.
I heard a Gov. Noem interview on Bongino's show a couple days ago. She has said unequivocatingly she wants to sign a bill that protects girls/womens sports, but this one has serious flaws. She and others are touting the Tenn. bill recently passed as the model for how she wants the S.Dak. one written.
So, the legislature didn't have enough to override Noem's veto.. So the frick what?! Maybe they should knock off the powerplay, and focus on passing a bill with either the suggested changes, or make it a direct copy of the Tennessee law. Work together to get it done. Republicans have trifecta-control of both chambers and the governorship in South Dakota; why are they being idiots and turning this into some kinda fight? Why are they giving Democrats ammo for the next election ("See, Republicans hate women/girls. Vote for us... <blah blah>")???
She has always been a moderate more than a conservative.Check out her congressional voting record, and her position on refugee resettlement.
She went to Xiden's inauguration. 'Nuff said.
https://www.keloland.com/keloland-com-original/gov-noem-attending-president-elect-bidens-inauguration-wednesday/
Damn that hurts
It did. Now it just pisses me off.
This. They won't listen
I'd love to go over that. Sounds like you're familiar with Noem's voting record. Post a link or two as to her record? If there is another (non-Leftist) site that's analyzed her voting record, I'd love to read that, too. Thanks in advance.
Sorry I am low tech and don't know how to link to other sites. A site named Revolver news had a informative piece on Noem. I was a supporter for her congressional run and was disappointed by her votes.
I keep hearing about these so called flaws but I haven't heard any specifics to explain what these flaws are that make this a bad bill. And when they dont get specific, I get suspicious...that its just an excuse. I know I heard Noem say she didn't want to pass it because NAACP would exclude S.D. from participating but that was all
Well, it would behoove us all to read: (1) the bill that was sent to Gov Noem's desk; (2) the specific suggestions she sent with the bill back to state legislature; and (3) the bills passed by other states (like Tennessee's law that Noem and legal folks say are stronger and cleaner).
We agree: more information, GOOD. :-)
So no specifics. Got it
So... I take it then, you haven't read any of the things listed, right? And yet you have such a definite opinion of the situation and of Governor Noem... [I will gladly admit wrong, if you have.] If you have, then I'd love to hear specifics as to your objections to her not signing; vague, blanket non-specific comments don't count.
Good points 👏 We depend on others to do the digging and interpret things for us, understandably because there isn't that much time with everything that comes out tbh
It took her 2 weeks after she vetoed the bill to come up with an excuse why she didn't like it
(1) Did she veto the bill? Or just didn't sign it? [Don't know SD's state constitution, but at the federal level
(2) My understanding of it is that Gov Noem sent the bill back to the legislature with her objections and suggestions. Are you saying that she didn't include those objections and suggestions to the state legislature at the time she sent it back? And then 2 weeks later she added her reasons/suggestions? Or are you saying that she didn't explain it to her constituency til two weeks later?
Bongino's interview with her.
^^ Thx for finding that, and posting its link.
We do things based but quietly here.
Noem is correct on this.
Real annoyed with Bongino interview when he just didn't get it. She wants the bill written correctly, not just to do it. If you just pass some garbage written law, it will be struck down and waste everyone's time. Tennessee already has a bill to model after with good language, she wants that language. "we'll have to agree to disagree, I really want to at least start with garbage, so when it gets struck and you lose a lot of $$, everyone will feel defeated and give up. That's a good start."
Fox is the enemy. They’re trying to reshape the narrative for Patriots.
What else was in this bill that she disagreed with?
Here is her public statement:
She seems to be looking for more specificity in language used. She requested the specific revisions that would lead to her passing the bill. None of them seem prohibitive.
There is already legislation elsewhere in the country that has been passed which future legislation could be based on instead of a blank slate. This would also address her other concern regarding a “patchwork” approach which would effectively break collegiate athletics programs.
Why didn't she request that when they were working on the bill, why did it take her weeks to list her specific problems with it?
I don’t know actually. I sent her office an email to find out and I’ll report back if they respond. I’m also concerned about the timeliness.
This link and the clarification about why she rejected the bill should have been the sticky!
https://media.patriots.win/post/Fp57N0Nw.png
Funny, you call anyone who doesn’t agree 100% with you is a leftwing shill.. what’s up with that?
Well to those shills, Noem is literally the best governor in the US right now, and nothing you scream on here gonna change that
Yep. All the Faux Noise cocksuckers are out here shitting on conservatives to divide us. She's one of the few that refused to cuck on lockdowns and I think is on our side. This bill has shitty language and Idaho passed something like this and it's getting shot down in the courts as we speak. She wants a clean bill. If people just listened to her reasons and had nuance they'd understand.
This is why the right loses: we don't stick together and eat our own.
For all the talk of shitty language in the bill I’m still waiting for one of you Noem apologists to explain what that shitty language is.
It allows you to sue a person if they know of someone else on a school sports team taking steroids and didn't do anything to stop it.
More info here: https://media.patriots.win/post/Fp57N0Nw.png
She wrote a 22 thread twitter rant about why the bill was poorly worded and held a press conf explaining her decision.
Weird, one of her tweets decried the following situation: Person doesn't make a football team. Person later finds out that a steroid user didn't disclose using steroids before joining the team. Person who didn't make the team can now sue the steroid user.
Sounds good to me. Cheaters should sued.
Did you even read the tweet you just posted? It says nothing about any other person besides incompetent admin and cheaters
Cool, so she's not an idiot.
Explain why her endorsing the fraud still makes her based. We just conveniently forgetting about that?
if you're talking about attending the inauguration, people like Hawley and Cruz attended too even though they objected to the electors on 1/6. They invite all members of Congress and governors to attend the event as dignitaries, regardless of whether it's a Dem or Rep getting sworn in. It's customary and goes way back. Doesn't mean she "endorses the fraud".
Hawley and Cruz are both frauds too, not the best example to set. One is apart of Conservative Inc, the other is apart of Populist Inc, and they're on a ship that is sailing nowhere, all talk, no game.
They were members of Congress, Noem went out of her way to attend.
My point is that Pelosi went to Trump's inauguration and even joked around with him on 1/20/17. Does that make her "based"? No! She was simply there because it was tradition.
Does it make Noem "cucked" if she attended this one? No. It was simply tradition.
So the new shill tactic is saying everyone who doesn't like Noem is fox news?
Here comes a redpill
FUCK FOX. FUCK THE UNIPARTY. FUCK NOEM.
LONG LIVE TRUMP
I could get behind this. I’d also love to fuck Noem what a smokeshow.
Seems like a lot of people here feel the same way, that is the only way to make sense out of the nonsensical support she is getting here
100 PERCENT SIMPED UP
I’d tongue punch her balloon knot all night long.
you will get thinking like this. The fact of the matter is you won we need votes. Your prize for being so red-pilled is your pride. You get to keep it even when locked in the gulag.
Language like this, being so hardlinee- even though correct- won't win. Again I defer to GEOTUS. His coalition comprises of many. He didn't say, " F you all! I'll win with 7 people who think EXACTLY like me."
You searching for the utopia where millions think exactly like us and GEPTUS will lead you no where.
Lighten up.
Surprising coming from the people that wants a comfy train to the concentration camp
I said something to this effect when it was reported that she wanted to review and consider the bill. The obligatory “get fucked shill” comments soon followed
I bet you if she wasn't hot, there wouldn't be near as many people defending her. Lots of white knighting.
Probably from the same people who were linking Cucker monologues and Faux News posts 4 years after the rest of us stopped watching that shit, if they were even OG meme war vets in the first place.
GOP / Uniparty is going to have operatives here downvoting and trying to sway opinion.
We need look no further than the downvotes on your own comment for evidence.
So that's all it takes for us to melt over a politician, doing the right thing when most are doing the wrong thing? Fuck politicians I'd rather drag my balls through broken glass than to trust any of the uniparty members until I am absolutely certain they walk the walk not just talk the talk.
The problem with republicans will always be they always search within the uniparty for their savior. I doubt a career politician can ever "save us" just keep the one step forward three step backwards shuffle they love to do.
Noam didn't do anything exceptional keeping her state open, the numbers were never alarming so why fuck the economy over? She also is in a state 90% of americans couldn't careless about. What you have to ask is if she was the governor of Florida would she have caved then? Well she attended Xiden's inauguration so I am sure the answer is between these lines somewhere.....
Yes. Glenn beck- who I know everyone here hates- had her on to explain it all. Good stuff. Just have to listen before flying off the handle.
Fuck cheeto-faced Glenn Beck.
He provided the platform for her to explain herself and you can find it on his website of u wanna hear her explain it herself. He has the show broke down in to hours. She might have been on during the 2nd hour last Tuesday or Wednesday?
If beck isn't hardline enough for you on something don't forget; the leftists purge any voice who doesn't totally align with them too. Don't be like the left. If u think beck is a cuck on some issue you are mistaken if you think he's an enemy.
Bruh he literally put crushed cheetos on his face to make fun of Trump.
What's wrong with it?
She wants to pass the same bill Tennessee just did but they wanted to add extra stuff in it that would for sure be taken to court and struck down by liberal judges.
She is totally in the right on this and it’s unreal that people are turning on her.
Pass it. Let them blow money in courts. Then pass another one.
This is what the left does and why they win. Fuck a "clean bill", the goal is to get YOUR BILL. POWER.
These people are still playing the game by the rule book while the other team just keeps Space Jam monster slam jam gigadunking on them.
Will to power is a hellava thing. Can't argue with their results to date.
Pass sixteen bills that all cover the same thing but worded slightly differently so they have to take out each one, one at a time.
Yup. Chaffe and flares.
It's shills that are trying to divide. The Faux Noose shills on here want us on the "Romney/Haley 2024" train. They're shilling extra hard tonight.
Never Haley
Never Romney
2 liddle McStains they are
NO WOMEN NO MORMONS NO FAGS 2024
why are people still voting? Voting doesnt work.
Then help me man these deport buttons extra hard then! The shills won't yeet themselves out!
Yes, it would block trannies in girls sports, but it had all sorts of bad language.
Such as a player that failed to make any team could sue the school and all players that did make the team, up to two years later, if it were later determined a player that did make the cut, did so by cheating.
So imagine your some college kid that worked your ass off to make a team. Later, and completely unknown to you, some player on your team admits to using steroids. Every single person that tried out for, and didn't make the team, can now sue you personally because your didn't stop that person from cheating which denied someone else a rightful spot on roster.
That's stupid, why should people who got on the team be liable?
That's how the bill was written. Which is exactly why she sent it back and said "fix it".
But headlines like "Noem kills tranny bill" sell better than "Noem asks legislature to fix stupid bill and they refused"
I heard about Noem killing this bill and how is it bad just this morning, and I thought to myself "I need to wait at least a day or two before reacting, because I remember how much the Fake News lie and the truth will reveal itself in time."
Well, it looks like I was right again about waiting. It turns out that Fake News is not giving us the whole story and is lying by omission and misdirection, AGAIN.
Because it's wrong, it would allow people to sue the school for failing to ensure there was no cheating
lol. There's always cheating. What's the school to do?
That's the whole fucking point. This bill was dogshit since it would allow you to sue the school and other students on the team for steroid abuse. That's why this bill sucks cock and Noem was right to send it back.
It took Noem 2 weeks to figure out why she opposed the bill.
“u MuSt sUpPoRt ChiLd AbOoOse!!” 🤪
Idaho wrote a bill with similar language to this bill and it's getting shot down in the 9th Circuit as we speak. Noem wanted to edit the language to make it "activist judge proof".
Ha ha. Like that exists. They stopped the travel ban despite the law stating "the president can stop immigration from anywhere, at any time, for any reason". Just rack up another L and try to convince yourself it was the right move.
It was an outright ban and kristi wanted exceptions to the rules
Incorrect. She wanted the language of the bill to not be susceptible to court rulings that would strike the whole bill with the financial weight of the NCAA, NIKE, Under Armour, and a bunch of other child slavers behind it.
So what about the college athletes?
Jesus fuckin' Christ, are people here still listening to Cucker Carlson?
Yep, and watching Fox in general and still using Twitter and and and
*Edited to add that Fox watchers are faggots
Not very many. https://ctv.kwayisi.org/networks/fox/
That’s their current ratings. Down 50% YoY. I’d say our people are doing a pretty damn good job of staying away. You should give them credit instead of complaining about something that isn’t happening.
I've moved to news max. Best decision I've ever made
It's all we got at the moment, Tucker, Hannity, Ingram, Maria Bartiromo, and Judge Janine. If it weren't for them the masses wouldn't have a clue as to what is going on. It's something and in this age where the 90% of the MSM is gaslighting us at every turn an ounce of opposition is deeply needed. Take them away and Biden's faggot run America would be 100% complete and unquestioned. Criticize them all you like but the reality is conservatives need every break they can catch in this spiraling clown world.
Listen up. Fox News is not today what it was 10, 20 years ago under Roger Ailes. I know because I was around then and have that contrast. It changed noticeably in 2017 when Paul Ryan joined Foxcorp, and perhaps even a bit before then. There's a concerted effort to change or water down what conservatism means in this country. Understand that no one is advocating that we take Carlson and the others you mentioned off the air without a suitably MAGA replacement. No one's trying to kill the voice of conservatism, we're trying to take it out of the hands of RINOs who work against Trump. Did you forget they hired Donna fuckin' Brazile and gave her a platform?
Yes we need voices in the news but they have to be the right voices, not MSM sellouts.
People here still watched faux news leading up to the election like we didn’t warn them back in 2015.
Even Trump tried warning them. Unbelievable.
Too bad he can't keep off their fucking network either.
Thank you. We're getting as bad as the left about throwing people into the bus just because we don't like something on the surface. So again thank you for being reasonable about this. Sometimes shit is nuanced.
Wasn't her objection to this bill more about how it was written and not the intent?
I understand that might be bullshit. I'm not 100% spun up on this one.
The language of bills can spell disaster down the line.
I think the "style and form veto" she used is a cop out. I defended her a couple of weeks ago thinking she just had issues with the wording or something, and wanted to make it stronger, but I don't think that's the case.
This is the best article I've read that explains it.
https://jonschweppe.substack.com/p/the-kristi-noem-veto-explained
She wanted it reworded in a way that essentially renders it meaningless. For example,
Weakens Section 1 dramatically by changing the operative language of the bill. Previously the bill stated: “A team or sport designated as being female is available only to participants who are female, based on their biological sex…” She wants that edited to: "“A team or sport designated as being female is available only to participants who are female, based on their biological sex, as reflected on the birth certificate or affidavit provided upon initial enrollment…”
In other words, under Noem’s proposed changes, a biological male would easily be able to participate in women’s sports in South Dakota (even in K-12) as long as he files the proper paperwork.
Best explanation yet. Thanks. Compromising with the lunatics does not work.
Ever well said pede
FUCKING THIS WELL SAID we still got hopium addiction to the GOP here you think they would have learned by now FFS 👍👍
They're too lazy to look up her voting record as a us congressman.
www.govtrack.us for all her votes
Unbelievable pede look I'm not saying she's the wicked witch of the west but yeh take a dam look at her voting record I mean it's there to see thanks pede
This is my impression of Noem's approach and the bill's situation as well.
In Tasmania, Australia...they are apparently already not recording biological sex on birth certs.
I don't think there's anything wrong with using the birth certificate, since South Dakota is still recording biological sex on birth certificates. However, the "affidavit" part seems more concerning.
Good luck. Leftists are going birth certs and they play to win. They know how important word meanings are (laws, birth certs etc). They are running rings around everyone else. Noem is right to be concerned about the wording of bills etc.
Noem is the one who want to change the wording to include the words "birth certificate" and "affidavit". Those were not in the original bill.
But even “biological sex” isn’t remotely bulletproof. My professor for my psych nursing class, with a DNP, stated clearly multiple times that if they have a “sex change” then their biological sex has now changed. So if a dude who had testosterone running through his veins for half a decade gets his dick chopped off, there is now plenty of literature stating that his biological sex is now “female.” And some states would allow, and fund, this type of operation in children. An 18 year old dude gets his sex change and at 18 1/2 can go play women’s soccer in college under that original wording.
Your professor is wrong. A biological man remains a biological man until he dies, and there aren't any other kinds. We don't need to write our laws to work around professors' fantasyland pronouncements.
What I heard out of her own mouth was she was basically afraid of the Bill pissing off the NCAA and then pulling their support of SD university sports. So in my opinion, right wrong or indifferent, the reason why the bill was kill is because of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
super
Yeah, it doesn't matter what she says in her official statements. She specifically said it was because of the NCAA when she was live-interviewed.
It was a ban all the way to college. She wanted an exception in colleges. Some say that it was a donation issue
It was the NCAA getting ready to wag-their-female-dick-around problem.
ty
There's another comment elsewhere though that makes a fantastic point.
Pass it anyway.
So it will be struck down.
So?
In the mean time it's the law, and the left has to waste money and resources fighting it.
Use that time to solidify a better bill that is ironclad and can be passed a few years later if necessary, but get your law on the books NOW.
If you skip it waiting for a perfect bill, you have allowed the left to win without even fighting.
You people don't understand why. The bill is poorly worded and she wanted it fixed so it doesn't get struck down by some activist Obama judge. She offered to send it back so they could correct the language but the legislature said no.
For reference Idaho passed a law with a similar language as this bill and they got sued and it's about to get shot down so hard in the 9th Circuit it's not even funny. That's what Noem wanted to prevent.
This is the problem with the right and why we lose: we never stick by our own. We abandon our people even at slight disagreements and get riled up over clickbait headlines without reading into WHY. The left wins because they stick together. Cucks here just want to shit on Noem without learning about why she did this -- it was to avoid a court challenge.
Also, I'm not ready to write her off yet. She's one of the few governors along with Ron DeSantis who refused to cuck on WuFlu lockdowns. She is on our side for sure.
I'm honestly more bothered that the state reps are being useless faggots:
Or, here's an idea, you could FIX THE GODDAMN BILL AND RESUBMIT IT!
Republican politicians are the reason I no longer think there are any political solutions. Even in an almost completely red state, they'll take the most-likely-to-fail approach and then when it obviously doesn't work, they go "oh nooo that sucks, well we tried! Donate more!"
Noem's biggest mistake here was assuming that the state congress was also earnestly playing by the rules.
There's nothing wrong with the bill. Noem wants to neuter it.
Is it her job to execute the will of the people or stand in the way because we might lose a case in court?
The role of the executive is to enforce the law. The executive has approval/veto power because they need to weigh in on whether a law is enforceable or not.
Oh, it's enforceable and defensible, but only if you want to put in the effort. She didn't want the fight. She has found her political ceiling. Give me someone who will fight.
So in order to participate in sports, kids would be REQUIRED to have drug tests. As a parent, go fuck yourself. This is an invasion of privacy of my children. They should not be subjected to a drug test because we can't just look at someone and say, 'Uh fuck no, that's a dude'.
This is why it was killed. It was a shit bill that they refused to change. It allows all sorts of devious behavior by certain (((people))) in court.
Stop with the divide tactics. This bill was shit and deserved to die. We don't need laws for everything, and schools can make their own rules about this shit to keep sanity in check. Why do you cocksuckers think the government has to step in and answer every fucking question?
No, that leap of logic is not in the law. And as a parent, feel free to tell the school to go fuck themselves if the are demanding to drug test your kid. This is a fake problem.
Stop with the roll over and give the trannies and the people destroying our society and our children whatever they demand. We the people are sick of this slide into hell. Noem failed. She's not qualified to lead. We need fighters.
Stop with the "everything must have a law attached to it" mentality. Stop letting politicians think for you.
She is absolutely qualified to fight for us, and she stands her ground on what she believes.
No it's not. See Idaho's legal problems for one thing. She said if the Tennessee bill of this exact same kind was brought to her desk she'd pass it.
Until the 5-4 ruling from the top, there is no recognized constitutional right for boys to compete with girls. The lesson here is not "I guess we better back off."
So you want to double down on stupid?
She can't "execute the will of the people" if the courts strike down the law. That's why she wants language that is "court proof" so to speak. You have to word it in a way so that an activist judge can't find an easy way to invalidate it, and make sure there is a pathway towards appeal and argumentation in the Supreme Court.
but if the language change doesnt happen that means there is no bill. i'd take the poorly worded bill over no bill any day
Just make the changes (or copy the Tenn. law) and resend it to Gov Noem for signature. If she were to not sign that which she asked for (or praised, in the case of the TN law), then I'd jump on the bandwagon against her.
And in the mean time, it's the law, and the left is wasting resources fighting it.
9 shills disagree with you and want you to remove your comment
I remember a lot of people on this site holding her in higher esteem then Ron DeSantis. If you want a leader that knows how to conquer a swamp, look no further than a Florida man.
Based Florida man, literally too much of a chad to cuck.
Is there a transgender sports bill in Florida?
Watch Ron do one thing wrong and the whole site will go “Ron cucked out reeee”
Get a life, you guys
She vetoed it because big corporations threaten to pull out of SD. She has been bought. No amount of failure theater and glossing sugar over shit is going to cover up the fact she vetoed it.
We really need a Traitorous Rino Flair.
You people don't understand why. The bill is poorly worded and she wanted it fixed so it doesn't get struck down by some activist Obama judge. She offered to send it back so they could correct the language but the legislature said no.
For reference Idaho passed a law with a similar language as this bill and they got sued and it's about to get shot down so hard in the 9th Circuit it's not even funny. That's what Noem wanted to prevent.
This is the problem with the right and why we lose: we never stick by our own. We abandon our people even at slight disagreements and get riled up over clickbait headlines without reading into WHY. The left wins because they stick together. Cucks here just want to shit on Noem without learning about why she did this -- it was to avoid a court challenge.
Also, I'm not ready to write her off yet. She's one of the few governors along with Ron DeSantis who refused to cuck on WuFlu lockdowns. She is on our side for sure.
Who needs facts when we have emotions?
https://gray-ksfy-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/2021/01/20/gov-kristi-noem-attending-bidens-inauguration-ceremony/
Call me jaded, but this fucking bothers me. Sure, rock star with keeping her state running but full-on cucked for Potato Brain and the Curry Whore.
You can frame where she didn't cuck all you want. Noem is all about Noem.
Grab yer pitchforks! This user is trying to argue his position with facts!
sounds like trust the plan. Why not pass the bill and let them try, then pass another as needed. How the hell do you think things got to where they are now? Repubs don't even make 'em work for it.
This is the problem with the left, and it has leaked into here and affected the weaker ones.
Just look for those who attended the fake inauguration.
There wouldn't be a Republican left without one. Mark my words, MTG and Huckabee Sanders will be just as RINO when it comes down to it. All talk until they have the opportunity to change the world for the better. That's when their inner libtard barbarian comes out in full force.
We have far more fighters than you truly realize, in both the House and the Senate. If you don't think so, stop complaining, and sign up to run for School Board, Legislature etc. At least run for GOP Precinct Committeeman. In my eyes, you shouldn't complain about something unless you're actively taking a role in fixing it.
This is nothing and a feel good bill. Noone cares about collegiate women's sports. If they wanted a real bill it would be targeted more towards kids and ensuring they couldn't be put on hormone blockers or even hormones. I feel like the reforms to women's college basketball will have to come from the NCAA who will reap the whirlwind once this shit boils over.
Talk about moving the goalposts
I really don't give a shit. Noem kept her state open when so many people closed there's and that's a trillion times more important than this. She's not perfect, but she's far better than most. This seems like a purity test and it's all for nothing. Let's focus on keeping our guns and freedoms, illegal immigration, protecting minors, keeping jobs in the US and creating jobs and wages that allow people to have kids. I don't need feel good legislation in place of all that, but that's what RINOs are great at doing and when it gets struck down they can still act like they did something.
They are calling demands by constituents bullying now. These people don't represent us, they rule over us.
Can't wait to hear her whine about cancel culture after refusing to hear her constituents
She wants the bill rewritten only to make it toothless and pointless. Stop defending her. She's a RINO.
Bongino interviewed her and she did not, in my opinion do a good job responding.
I want women's sports ruined by men the same way women ruined everything men had.
Perfect is the enemy of the Good.
Just look at the glee with which the Leftist/MSM are trumpetting this. Who gains when we discard Noem for what we see as a mistake or a traitorous act (a wide spectrum, true). It won't be the Leftist/Dems destroying her; it'll be WE who will plunge the dagger. Kill off someone who has mostly done and said right. She's no Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, or many other easily-named RINOs out there. Maybe a little moderation/tempering of your all-or-nothing rhetoric is not a bad idea...
[I find the rabid emotionalism here is quite surprising, with this discussion board populated with obviously good thinkers and folks steeped in conservative principles.]
I think Prager articulates well what I'm trying to get at: Our side is oddly intolerant of any flaws in our [GOP] politicians, ready to scorch-Earth them for each mistake, great or small, even if we otherwise agree with them 80-90%. When we know that if a Leftist/Dem were to replace them, we'd disagree them with in the other direction, 80-90% (or more, these days).
Folks, can't we criticize and correct without talk of destroying someone? If we can't, we (almost) might as well start calling it Cancel Culture, conservative-style.
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Because we are sick of being betrayed on EVERY ISSUE for DECADES and are not going to accept it anymore. The entire Republican office holding set needs to be replaced.
I agree with most of what you say. Now, are you ready to run for office? BTW, how many MAGA people, here and elsewhere, have we got firm commitments to run in the next election? And 2024?
No more free passes.
Your alternative to replace Noem is?
Battered spouse mentality.
Different tack (since I'm not even sure you answered my question...): What exactly do you mean by "No more free passes"? And what will you do as a consequence?
^^ Honest questions, I'm not being facetious or what.
Florida man it is then. He's my second favorite politician now.
The noem simps are in damage control mode right now.
Noem cucked to NCAA and Amazon. Worthless.
The simps are the ones who want government control of sports cus muh wahmen.
"The simps are the ones who think men should compete against women in sports"
Ok retard
How many republicans gotta betray y’all till you see our platform is not part of their plans in that party?
She's wrong. Her requests to change the bill are wrong.
I agree. It's time to abolish women's sports and just have sports. If they cannot compete with men, get back in the kitchen.
I want to know what Noem was talking about with the "incorrect style or form." I saw her appearance on Tucker but she didn't give specifics about what she wanted changed. I'll happily dogpile her, but I want to know what the changes she wanted were. Or, if they are just made up excuses for deflection. She has never come across as a RINO before this, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, ONCE.
Here ya go -
Governor Noem Returns HB 1217 to Legislature, Suggests Style and Form Changes
https://news.sd.gov/newsitem.aspx?id=27820
This is also a good article explaining and summarizing it:
https://jonschweppe.substack.com/p/the-kristi-noem-veto-explained
I don't know what's wrong with this bill but the fact that it died highlights the problems within the GOP. They control the house senate and gov but cant get a bill done. Democrats are painfully unified. GOP need to look at how they do it and take some notes.
Time for the shills to come from the cuckshed
mommy Kristi needs your shilling now!
Judging by the downvotes everywhere, they're already here.
Yeah, they came within seconds of each other
And like clockwork they did appear.
They're here already.
fuck off cuck. she sent it back to edit the language to make it "court proof" if the aclu decides to sue. you cucks shit on noem but are fine with greg abbott and all the other republican governors cucking out on china virus.
FUCK THE UNIPARTY
FUCK WEAKNESS
FUCK THE RONA
FUCK COLLEGE TRANNIES FUNDING NOEM CAMPAIGN
And I'd rather shill for "Mommy Noem" than whichever Democrat is paying you to shill on here. Fuck off cuck. Learn to have some nuance (that is, if you're not a leftist shill). She sent it back to correct faulty language.
Faulty language like not allowing trannies on college sports which would endanger her donations
DUDE FFS DO SOME RESEARCH
It would allow someone to sue the school and all the players on the team if they later found out one player on the team was abusing anabolic steroids. That is insane.
That's like passing a voter ID bill that also says down at the bottom "all elections shall henceforth be conducted exclusively by mail". Yes the voter ID part of it would be good, but it wouldn't be worth the other language in the bill.
DO SOME GODDAMN RESEARCH. BELOW IS A TWITTER THREAD WHERE SHE EXPLAINS WHY SHE SENT IT BACK
https://media.patriots.win/post/Fp57N0Nw.png
YOUR OWN LINK DISPROVES YOUR CLAIM
Are shills this low on energy?
She didn't kill it. The edits she wanted made were voted down.
https://ibb.co/4NG6zck
Unless is Tennis or maybe Volleyball, no one cares about Women Sports.
Women soccer is beyond trash. I'd rather watch the local mens league.
Also I want to see this play out for the lulz in pro sports. Cant wait to have a roided ma'am slide tackle purple hair cunt Megan Rapinhoes into retirement.
“I have received your message that the House of Representatives failed to approve my recommendations as to changes of style and form of House Bill 1217,” Noem said in a letter to the South Dakota House of Representatives.
Noem cited a provision in the state’s Constitution that allows bills with “errors in style or form” to be returned to the State legislature, in a process that functions identically to a veto.
“Given the House action, I cannot certify that the bill conforms with my specific recommendations,” Noem wrote. “Therefore, my only option consistent with the constitution is the fail [sic] to certify the bill and return it you.”
This provision needs to be removed, she can basically veto anything she disagrees with so long as she can :cite and error." which is trivial when she'd more the likely issue a correction for something outlandish to be added to it.
Governor Noem’s Full Letter:
Dear Legislators,
I respectfully return to you House Bill 1217 with the following recommendations as to STYLE and FORM.
I believe that boys should play boys’ sports, and girls should play girls’ sports. As the legislative findings in the original version of the bill set out, “[w]ith respect to biological sex, one is either male or female[,]” and “[p]hysiological differences between males and females include ‘those most important for success in sport: categorically different strength, speed, and endurance.’”
That is why House Bill 1217 properly provides that females should have opportunities to play youth sports on teams comprised of females and against teams of females. Unfortunately, as I have studied this legislation and conferred with legal experts over the past several days, I have become concerned that this bill’s vague and overly broad language could have significant unintended consequences.
For example, Section 2 of House Bill 1217 requires a student athlete to verify, each year, that the student “is not taking and has not taken, during the preceding twelve months, any performance enhancing drugs, including anabolic steroids.”
Presumably, this requirement was included to address a student taking these drugs as a part of a gender transition, but House Bill 1217 is not limited in this way. Rather, if a male student athlete failed to make the football team, and later learned that another student on the team was taking steroids without disclosing it, the student who didn’t make the team would be entitled to sue both the school and the steroid-using student for damages.
In addition, Section 2 creates an unworkable administrative burden on schools, who under its terms must collect verification forms from every student athlete, every year, as to age, biological sex, and use of performance-enhancing drugs; and furthermore must monitor these disclosures throughout the year so that if “reasonable cause” is found of a false or misleading form, the school can take action to avoid civil liability.
I am also concerned that the approach House Bill 1217 takes is unrealistic in the context of collegiate athletics. In South Dakota, we are proud of our universities’ athletic programs, and in particular the great strides we have taken to gain national exposure and increase opportunities for our next generation over the past two decades.
South Dakota has shown that our student athletes can compete with anyone in the country, but competing on the national stage means compliance with the national governing bodies that oversee collegiate athletics. While I certainly do not always agree with the actions these sanctioning bodies take, I understand that collegiate athletics requires such a system – a fifty-state patchwork is not workable.
To achieve the legislative intent of protecting girls’ sports, while simultaneously avoiding potential unintended consequences, I recommend the following Style and Form changes to the Enrolled version of House Bill 1217:
Revise Section 1 to read: 13-67-1 Athletic teams and sports-–Designation by sex–Participation.
Any athletic team or sport that is sponsored or sanctioned by an accredited elementary or secondary school public school, a school district, or an association meeting the requirements of § 13-36-4, or an institution of higher education under the control of the Board of Regents or the South Dakota Board of Technical Education must be expressly designated as being:
(1) A male team or sport;
(2) A female team or sport; or
(3) A coeducational team or sport.
A team or sport designated as being female is available only to participants who are female, based on their biological sex, as reflected on the birth certificate or affidavit provided upon initial enrollment in accordance with verified in accordance with § 13-27-3.1 13-67-2.
Strike Section 2; Revise former Section 3 to read: 13-67-2 3 Complaint—Investigation—Adverse Action.
A governmental entity, licensing or accrediting organization, or athletic association or organization may not entertain a complaint, open an investigation, or take any adverse action against an accredited elementary or secondary school, or a school district, or an association meeting the requirements of § 13-36-4 or an institution of higher education, or against any person employed by, or a governing board member of, such an elementary or secondary school, or school district, or institution, or an association meeting the requirements of § 13-36-4, for maintaining athletic teams or sports in accordance with § 13-67-1.
Strike Section 4. The proposed revisions limit House Bill 1217 to elementary and secondary school athletics, which are primarily conducted among South Dakota schools and at the high school level are governed by the South Dakota High School Activities Association, a creature of South Dakota law. The proposed revisions will also remedy the vague language regarding civil liability and the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
Overall, these style and form clarifications protect women sports while also showing empathy for youths struggling with what they understand to be their gender identity. But showing empathy does not mean a biologically-female-at birth woman should face an unbalanced playing field that effectively undermines the advances made by women and for women since the implementation of Title IX in 1972. The Supreme Court of the United States has recognized that the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment allows for the law to treat women and men differently, and in this instance that equal protection afforded women absolutely should apply on our state’s elementary and high school playing fields.
I support this legislation and hope that House Bill 1217, with the changes I am proposing, becomes law. I respectfully request that you concur with my recommendations as to STYLE and FORM.
Respectfully submitted,
Governor Kristi Noem
Oh no she’s Mitt Romney now! /s
I can’t believe how quickly people here have completely turned on her based on click bait headlines. We are in real trouble right now and asking for more if we continue down this road.
i really don’t give a fuck
They are all crooked
You don't have to act like Noem is Judas to realize this is a bad decision. That's what it is, this doesn't mean I wouldn't support her or many of the things she did especially during lockdowns, because she was awesome on that.
It's possible to criticize without canceling someone.
She bent to the will of Amazon and the NCAA, and the corporatist Commerce. If she broke on this, she will break on anything.
She cowered out. Probably still thinks this cancel culture tranny army are nice people and not child molesters. So out of touch with reality.
Do some research.
Is this the based Kraken I heard so much about or was that a different disappointment?
I look forward to all young girls learning that they have no place on the field because biological males in wigs comprise every "womens" team.
Shekels. It's all about shekels.
Now she'll try to pass-the-buck and blame the Conservative legislature for "not revising and re-submitting" legislation which had no errors.
That's actually worse.
Was it?
Quit spreading misinformation.
Yes, it was filled with bad language. It wasn't a single issue bill.
It was. And it would've been shot down by an Obama judge had it passed in its current form.
She’s afraid SD will get the NC treatment and the NCAA will threaten to pull events out of SD.
Fuck the NCAA. Start your own sports org.
That’s the problem with everything in this country. Trying to adhere to the rules corrupt organizations for fear of being left out is just fucking insanity.
So DeSantis is the chosen one. I hope he doesn’t turn out to be yet another disappointment.
No kidding. DeSantis 2024. I'll probably get crucified for saying this here, but I think he'd be even better than Trump.
You’re damn right he would. Based Florida man gives 0 fucks.
Trump is the chosen one. And don't you forget it.
I still am going to reserve judgement on Noem. Based on the wording of her statement, it sounds like the assembly in SD got the bill back for correction, and instead of working on the bill to get it to conform with what Noem wanted, they tried to get the existing bill through on a super majority vote, which failed. She straight up said at one point, "Give me something that looks like Tennessee's bill." They just wouldn't do it.
Noem has to take a hit for being vague about what she objected to in the bill. She may be doing that in order to avoid legal complications. The assembly has to take a hit for trying and failing to take the easy way out.
I really don't like seeing this leftist-style railroading happening on our side. It's warranted when someone CLEARLY betrays our trust (see: Mike Pence, Amy Coney-Bullshit, Brett Kavanope, Fox News in general), but I don't think that's what's happened in South Dakota.
Im with you on that. Took a lot of digging through this thread to find out what her problem with the bill is. Too many people reacting without all the facts.
People like simply prove you didn't do any digging. Like how the 'suggestions' would allow biological males to play in female sports if they simply go through the proper paperwork and have their gender changed on the birth certificate.
Did you read this? https://news.sd.gov/newsitem.aspx?id=27820
https://jonschweppe.substack.com/p/the-kristi-noem-veto-explained
The question is why would she add verbiage to stipulate a birth cert? Definitely a big red flag there.
Epsteined?
This was an easy thing to do! Kristi nope!
Shes claiming it's just got bad verbiage but sounds line she specifically wants to exclude the NCAA bc they will sue according to her. Idk shes still saying she will pass one that's reworked.
Good. You get what you deserve. Enough simping.
Shitty bill...quit signing shitty bills.
She’s being very naughty. And we all know what naughty girls get.
It's all part of the plan, she's not bending over to the translobby because she's afraid of them when it comes to her inevitable presidential run, no don't say that, not about Kristi.
What? She wanted it so trans COULD participate at college level bc she didn't want to lose that NCAA (or Amazon) money. Her edits to make that happen were voted down.
This article completely leaves out the fact that she issued two executive orders, one banning biological males from competing in women's sports in any tax payer funded school, and the second EO is to draft a new bill that will do the same at the college level without it being vulnerable to NCAA lawsuits.
This is why we need to allow the Line Item Veto.
She had input before it got to her desk. SD doesn't have many major corporations, but it does have sports and that's the weakness of the corporatists. If she were governor of any other state, the state would have been locked down.
What sports? I can't think of one pro sports team in the Dakotas. I can't think of any popular college teams either.
As far as corporations go, there aren't major ones headquartered in SD and their locations are extremely far from each other. SD consumes a lot of sports for entertainment. Retailers don't have much pull, SD has no major theme parks, and sports corporations have some influence. You don't need to have four or five major stadiums for people to consume sports.
Noem lacks testicular fortitude. That is all.
Probably had k street write it up and even something so simple like only women play womens sports is bogged down with some shit about latvian rice tariffs included in it. Because thats how disgraceful our country is. Bureaucratic nonsense. Asking for a kleenex requires a 6 month application process. Fuck