Agree. Fauci and Birx should have been gone within the first month. Trump couldn't have "opened the economy" nationwide, but he should have put pressure on states to do it.
You saw he recognized the bullshit when he decided to hire Atlas. Fauci's a conniving piece of shit. Birx is a fucking retard.
I would say out of the two Birx defended Trump much more though. I don't think Trump should've shit on her as much as Fauci since she actually tended to defend him sometimes on the news.
EDIT: this is the quote I'm talking about:
“He’s been so attentive to the scientific literature and the details and the data,” Birx said. “I think his ability to analyze and integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit during these discussions about medical issues.”
I sort of agree. I thought Trump's criticism of Birx was well done, but he definitely needed to go after Fauci more. I did like that he snuck in the connection to the Wuhan lab, though.
Whenever Trump used to say he "got along with Fauci", I wanted to puke.
We all saw that Fauci was a fraud at the beginning of this crap last year. We all wanted Fauci fired. Trump kept him on for one obvious reason that we could all see plain as day: OPTICS. He was too concerned with how the left/media would portray the firing. They would run 24/7 campaigns like it was the end of the world that Trump is literally killing people with this decision. Trump was being too much of a nice guy. They already do this anyway, so might as well give them something real to whine about.
The entire covid agenda (lockdowns, voter fraud, socialism) could’ve been stopped by this one man. But instead he left fauci in power, pushed for a rushed vaccine, and let the voter fraud stand without declaring martial law. At this point I don’t know what if anything he’d be willing to actually do.
No one seems to understand this. They somehow think the President has ultimate powers. In some ways, DJT has more power out of office without conflicts of interest. We as all know the power of corporations after this last year. Time he unleashed his.
No he didn't. There are laws which make bureaucrats like Fauci almost immune from being fired. That's why he's been around since the Reagan administration.
It showed with Bush following 9/11 and being forced into Iraq by the Military Industrial Complex and big US Corporations .... or commit a coup. Then, Obama was also forced to bail out the corrupt banks because Citi Group got him there in the first place according to Wiki.
Also, there was an Act in 1871 which created the Corporate United States of America as well. Trump is still OUR President of the REPUBLIC and sitting in Mar-A-Lago which was the original summer's retreat for Presidencies.
martial law with what army? military refused to follow DJT's IA orders in june and said they would drag his ass out of office if he invoked IA on election fraud.
This + a million. I hear so many people say " Trump should have fired this person" or "Trump should have sent the military in" etc, etc.
They don't realize that the whole of the government, media, military, both parties and many of his staff were actively working to hurt, embarrass, impair and destroy President Trump. Trump gave many orders that were outright ignored or refused. Trump never stood a chance.
It is amazing that he was as successful as he was with everyone out to hurt him. It was however a fucking miracle that he and his family are still alive.
The martial law thing I’ll just assume I don’t know the details as to why he didn’t declare it. But as far as fauci, the vaccine and all the covid nonsense, there was nothing stopping him from replacing fauci with an actual doctor, and nothing stopping him from setting up S.W.A.T. teams at the battleground polling locations to keep watch overnight. The voter fraud could’ve easily been stopped. It was carried out by slimy amoeba people. Trump and his supporters could’ve easily crushed them.
Elections are spelled out in the constitution to be controlled by the states. The President would not be able to do such a thing as what you are describing on election night.
The U.S. population is the largest armed force on the planet, many of which are prior service, extremely patriotic, and were mostly loyal to Trump at the time. Look how many he had come to the capitol unarmed ready to do whatever he said. He could have told everyone show up armed and ready to hang treasonous commies and half the military with twice the numbers of civilians would have showed up and got real work done. They used to hang traitors to the country, now we just hide in our house and stubbornly do what they say. All he had to do was give the orders and shit woulda got messy as fucken hell, but it would be a thousand times better than this slow road to disarmament and communism we are on now.
There's a reason why this place changed its name. When we needed him most, Trump left us high and dry and for all of his talk about never giving up, well, he did just that with the fraudulent election.
Dude, it's been nearly 3 months and the Supreme Court doesn't give a shit. Not a single state has overturned their corrupt results and any re-counts you see talked about will be done solely so the left can point to them and say "See! The election was totally secure!" Yeah, I'd love for a miracle comeback that sees the traitors arrested, justice served, and I'd gladly eat my words about Trump, but I am not going to turn into one of those deranged denialists who kept saying that Trump was going to be arrested any day now. The left said that shit for over 4 fucking years. I'm not gonna be like those psychopaths.
And yes, I know the election was stolen. I watched it happen live. I'm not trusting Sessions. I'm not trusting Barr. I'm not trusting Kavanaugh or Barret. I'm not trusting Pence. I'm not trusting the plan for just 2 more weeks Q and I'm not buying into the theory that the military is in control, which by the way, would actually be the worst case scenario and I'm convinced that only people who have never served would say that as if it's a good thing.
Things are back to the "normal" of 5 years ago, except worse in every conceivable way and most people seem to have forgotten just how awful "normal" was, but at least the liars on the news aren't saying mean things now! FUCK! Shit sucks and I will not engage with any more of this blind false hope bullshit!
And I've had to swallow my pride because I was clearly wrong about that. I was also in DC on the 6th. He told us where to march to and then he didn't march with us.
So let's get something straight, right here, right now. I've never been at this party for Trump. I've been here for America and the ideals that it was founded upon. When Trump supported fighting for them and for me, I supported him. When he stop doing that, I stopped supporting him. So yeah, I'm not going to go around engaging in the idol worship and pretending that his reality television was any better than any of the other shitty reality television out there. Being upset with him also doesn't mean that I support the fraud in chief biden, his whore of babylon vice fraud Kamal on her knees Harris, or Mike 30 pieces of silver Pence. I just recognize that Trump isn't going to save this country. It's easy for him to bail with his billions of dollars and still live life on easy street. There's a whole bunch of us who aren't that lucky.
True, while he was in office. As soon as he was out she was acting like everything he did was a mess, which her and Fauci were advising him to do at the time. Still have no idea why Trump didn't fire them on the spot, something going on there we dont know about for sure.
Birx came out about a month ago saying Trump ignored the "experts" and often had data that no one knew gave him. She was alluding to him being a stupid meat heat with ulterior motives.
She cucked definitely, but you'd never catch Fauci saying something like this in a million years:
“He’s been so attentive to the scientific literature and the details and the data,” Birx said. “I think his ability to analyze and integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit during these discussions about medical issues.”
The would not have done that because then they couldn't give the vaccine. The condition for emergency use authorization is that there is no other medical treatment. That's why they shat on every alternative that wasn't "wait for the vaccine". It was a dual narrative. Maybe there were people that knew this and thought the vaccine would be a better solution that got held back due to that rule but more than likely it was a disinformation campaign paid for by pharmaceutical companies. I'm inclined to believe the latter because how obvious the shilling on the "news" is towards Pfizer and Moderna.
He rolled the dice on white suburb Karens and lost. That's the truth (outside of the steal) He wanted to win over the suburb moms and didn't realize white Karens are enemy #1 -- lost to us -- and the mom demo like me in the suburbs is low key as a survival tactic. He got bad polling advice. I am the PTA, the school board if I want; his camp misread that aspect and now we're here, locally (he won nationally of course).
Those white "Karens" aren't enemy #1. Suburban white moms still voted for Trump at a rate much higher than black women. Black women are 96% against Trump. And black men, what, 83%?
Yes he could have. It was unconstitutional to “close” the economy. Those governors and mayors and city councils should’ve been arrested. They violated the Constitution, shredded the constitutional rights of their constituents. That’s illegal and they should’ve been arrested.
I don't disagree that it's unconstitutional, and I agree that they should have been arrested. That doesn't give the President the constitutional authority to do anything in this scenario, though.
What people seem to miss is that you would need someone to execute the arrest. And anyone who attempted it would be stalled, then ganged up on and relentlessly attacked, the way Trump is.
You see how they are still going after him and everyone associated with him, looking for potential tax violations or whatever? The reality is that almost all of the federal and state governments are totally captured by corrupt and cowardly people. Trump can goad them into doing the right thing, but he can't make them do it.
Oh they violated the Constitution huh? Why didn't the military arrest them then? Every service member swears to uphold it, don't they? Do they need Trump's authorization to do their sworn duty?
He could have lifted his emergency orders which gave the governors the power to act like tyrants. Without the lockdowns there would have been no need for the mass mail in voting. Trump would have kept his victory because they needed the ability to commit massive election fraud. Far more widespread than their usual antics.
No way Fauci only makes 400k this clown is a multi millionaire easily makes millions off pharma relationships and sits on board of several international organizations.
100,000+ destroyed small business owners and their families don't give a fuck about muh optics either. 6+ weeks of standing behind Fauci and Birx nodding in agreement, on camera, aren't just wiped away with this press release BTW.
The same excuse we were given for why it was perfectly fine not to crush riots.
I’m still furious at the people who absolutely refused to hear any criticism of an otherwise good president. It’s astonishing to think of the damage done.
I want to go back and find each and every single one of the people who convinced millions not to worry about the lack of arrests in Spygate and Obamagate and how justice was right around the corner and I was a communist shill if I didn’t see it.
I hate them.
Fauci closed every baseball park in the country with his shit policy demands, then sits and enjoys a game without a mask on after throwing out the first pitch.
I lost a lot of respect for Trump when Fauci wasn’t nuked immediately when that photo hit the wire.
Unacceptable.
And every single motherfucker that told me it was perfectly fine, and every cunt bag who told me the election was safe, needs to be dragged out into the street.
That's it for me. I loved what he stood for... America First. He took that a long way with trade agreements, fighting China, holding NATO financially responsible, the border wall and getting Mexico to help with the migrant hoards. But 2020 was a complete shit show of bad decisions based on optics. If he would've held firm and stayed the Trump of 2015 and 2016, we would not be where we are now. I think he would've gotten even more votes if we had 2016 Trump in 2020.
I still like Trump. He's a hundred times better than any other of these douchebag career politicians. Should he have put cup a dirtier fight? Perhaps. But then so many people would still be blaming everything on him. And it wouldnt be apparent to so many now that the democrats are straight demonic pedophile vampires.
Well, maybe. End of the day, the election was stolen and the optics ended up not mattering one bit. We're even back to morons pushing for gun control when the race riots of last year happened. We've passed the 1 year anniversary of 2 weeks to flatten the curve.
I have been an America 1st person my entire life. So when Trump came along in 2015, gunning for President, I supported him because he was supporting me. I was ridiculed and outcast by most of my family because I dared to stand up for him while the media filled their head with lies. Yet now that Trump has decided he's done supporting me I'm still supposed to support him? No. It doesn't work that way.
I'm in this for the country. For America and I don't even know why I still care at this point. It's not like the ideals I cared so much for even exist in it anymore as witnessed by half the people here still caring more about Trump than America itself.
It's partly this and also partly the fact that Trump is a businessman at the end of the day, and a good guy. He doesn't want to see people get hurt. He was getting fed all kinds of contradictory information when the COVID psyop began and unfortunately went along with it. What he should have done was just plainly state to the American people that this was a mild respiratory illness, stop whining, and get back to work. He let bad faith actors control too much of the messaging, I think out of genuine concern at first. Then he lost control of the narrative.
People complaining about election optics are ignoring the economic ramifications of optics during a pandemic. It would not be good for the nation’s economic health to be cutting off the heads of all the top health officials during the middle of a pandemic.
Yes, they gave a lot of bad advice and did a lot of stupid shit. Ultimately Trump kept us out of many calamities. This pandemic was a total fucking shitstorm of an attack waged by the CCP and globalists interests... The man was being attacked on all sides, with traitors all around. I doubt any of you would have navigated better!
He was the best guy we could have hoped for, at the time. Imagine having a POTUS like Hillary who would be totally in on the scam, locking us down mercilessly. At least Trump tried to assess all the contradictory information he was getting and make rational decisions. COVID was supposed to be a pretext to throw all our rights away, permanently. They almost succeeded.
Yep. Good example of Fauci at the baseball game. If the roles were reversed and Fauci was a conservative under a Democrat president, the Dems would've used that to force him to step down. Trump had the most powerful Twitter account in the world. He should've gone off on him. And not some stupid fucking quip - "hope Fauci enjoyed the game!!" No, something like "while millions of Americans lost their jobs due to unconstitutional lockdowns...etc."
Trump was just too scared to fight against the bullshit narrative they were gonna use against him. "Every covid death is on his hands." He stood up against the covid nonsense for about a month, and I thought he was gonna have our back. Then he said wearing a mask can be patriotic and gave billions to Big Pharma to fast track an experimental vaccine. Disappointing to say the least.
One of Trump's faults (not necessarily a fault) but he's a good guy and doesn't like seeing people get hurt. When COVID was initially blown out of proportion I think he got suckered into it and played along until it was too late. He should have made a statement early that this was a mild respiratory illness and everyone can continue living their lives as normal.
While the vaccine is entirely needless, make sure you refer to it as the Trump vaccine. Rub it in the faces of the normies that the vaccine they craved was pushed through by him. And that pedo Joe lost 20million doses.
The idiots in charge were pushing for a great depression and had the weight of the media, the DNC and the RINOs behind them and Trump navigated it extremely well. This man will always be my president and there isn't anyone who can take someone deservingly remotely close as he does it. He always goes for the jugular and its beautiful and hilarious.
Pushed for a depression that they could lay at Trump's feet along with all the other shit they were pushing for. With their media control no matter the crisis they'd aim to pin it on Trump and advance their cause.
“Navigated it really well” is probably the most fucking blatantly horribly wrong thing I’ve ever seen. No. He did not navigate it really well. Hundreds of thousands of businesses are closed and children, precious children, are terrified in their masks sitting behind glass partitions in their public schools. No. He goddamn fucking did not navigate that well.
There was only one response to liars trying to destroy our nation and that was to fight back and resist, not cave-in and compromise. Our. Republic. Is. Dead. They were able to use this as a cover to steal the fucking election. No, he did not navigate it really well.
He was up against the might of most of the powers in this country. They'd have impeached him like they did twice and we'd have idiots that would have locked us down even harder.
Bitch just go the fuck outside! It doesn't matter what they say about lockdowns. Been ignoring them and mask mandates for a whole year now and surprise, surprise, everything is fine.
I'm out having a drink, Bitch, so I don't know who you're whiney ass is talking to. I'm not a small business owner and I'm not being targeted by a state government that has no qualms about squashing people's livelihoods when being a small business is tough enough.
Well I'm sure you could do better. I'm sure your local community is a shining city on a hill and if we just followed you, imploring everyone and insulting everyone, we would be hunky dory. Because you fought back and resisted not just these past 4 years but the past 40 as our Republic was chipped away. Go ahead slugger and step up and right the ship if you've got the answers. Trump was flawed but in my near 40 years nobody else who gave a damn has done as much as him. So yeah warts and all I'll stand with him and not some tough talking nobody on the internet.
It isn't a question of whether he could do better. It's a question of how Trump did when in that position. And everything he said is true. It's 90 degrees in March a year later and you have masses of zombies wearing masks even in deep red states. Small businesses are destroyed and Amazon is flying high. Yeah, we totally owned the libs!
Remember when the virus first came on the scene we were told millions would die, it was deadly, Trump lost a friend with Covid...it is easy to judge now, and good points are being made, but it is easy to Monday morning quarterback, while Trump was in the middle of it all and trying to make sound decisions on the information he was being given by people who were considered experts in their fields.
Also this: Everyone seems to be forgetting that he put Mike Pence in charge of the task force. He also put Pence in charge of Space Force. He may have expected loyalty -- I sure would have.
All that time, Pence was acting the part of a loyal VP only to betray President Trump and our country when it counted the most.
In my opinion, Pence is the worst snake traitor in all of America's history. Even Benedict Arnold had the decency to leave the country.
People like me said in great detail, point by point, exactly what was going to happen. This isn’t hindsight. Many of us were furious at the time and a lot of us actually got banned from this community for pointing out exactly what ended up happening.
The mistakes that were made were egregious and obvious to millions of people. But they weren’t allowed to criticize, they weren’t allowed to stop
TEh 24/7 RaLLy draGON EnErrGy MEME PEPE KEK!!!!!!!!! spIcY tWEEt!!!!! fucking bullshit for five minutes to have a real conversation.
Those motherfuckers - you want your fucking rally? Go have it. Thanks for the help faggots. Thanks for sitting there and taking it up the ass while the rest of us were trying to stop the ship before it hit the iceberg.
Thanks for convincing millions of Trump voters it was perfectly fine to allow these governors to rape their own citizens and not pay for it, not be arrested, and for there to be absolutely no fight back from the executive branch.
Those dumb motherfuckers screamed about states rights because I didn’t want to criticize the president, the state doesn’t have a right to violate the Constitution, state don’t have the right to take away the constitutional rights of their own citizens you dumb motherfuckers. Keep making excuses, well, I guess it’s too late now, you made excuses until he’s no longer even in office. Thanks for that, too. Heaven forbid we try to pressure him into securing a fucking election instead of waiting to the last minute and then hiring the dumbest lawyers on Earth to do a horrible job.
Thanks you motherfuckers. You sat there and watched our republic die, you motherfuckers, and I hope each and every one of you gets hauled away when the time comes. I won’t help you.
Dude, everybody on here hated on Fauci, Birx and Redfield. They knew they were scum after the 1st presser. Trump got a lot of slack because it was supposed to be a part of ‘draining the swamp’. Maybe everybody got too caught up in that heuristic, as it was supposed to ‘awaken the masses’.
But we won the election hugely and these fuckers were supposed to get the comeuppance at the beginning of the second term. But it didn’t happen that way, because they stole it.
You sat here too dumbass. Unless you have one of those standing desks. For somebody berating everyone else you sure do comment here a lot instead of "taking the fight to the enemy!!!!!!".
Well, then step forward as a new leader and I'll be glad to follow and consider what you're saying! Share a link(s) aside from here where you post your ideas.
Regardless of the lethality we should have considered this an act of war by China and immediately blown up the Three Gorges Dam. Also expel all chinese nationals from the country. We don't need them
Totally agree, and you can see his predicament now on the vax.
They had it all lined up ahead of time to release after Trump to make him look bad. If he didn’t have it made, they would pull theirs out of the closet immediately after and kill him on it forever.
Agree. I think Fauci had the vax ready to go and downplayed it. He was in on it IMO. Why else advocate FOR travel with China? Why else downplay the threat when he was funding gain of function research at the Wuhan lab...he knew what an accidental or purposeful release would do and he fucking enabled the spread. And surprise! We actually CAN do a vaccine in less than a year--who knew??? Fauci knew...he set it up with the CCP, imo.
As great as this statement is, he kept them around. For a guy famous for the “You’re fired” line, he allowed a lot of bad actors around in important positions.
Yes, he did that well. But he should have taken interviews from Alex Jones rather than Chris Wallace. He shouldn't have given the MSM the legitimacy he did.
His undoing was stingy and lazy “supporters” like you who are incredibly quick to blame while having 0 understanding of Washington 101
He can’t just go around firing whoever he wants. The political repercussions would have sunk any re-election chances he had. You can’t just fire the top epidemiologist in the country during a pandemic... are you guys seriously this clueless?
He single-handedly exposed the deep state and the corrupt media. Every single aspect of his life was trashed constantly 24/7. He knew that going in and yet he still did better than anyone else.
I'd argue his undoing was people like you feeding him bad advice. You don't lead by worrying about optics you lead by doing what is right and necessary. That was his whole campaign in 2016, saying things he was not supposed to. "Some bad hombres".
Trump should never have put any one or two people on camera to be the face of the pandemic response. He should have had a team of credible people advising him.
You’re a retard that couldn’t win a city council election or pass a political science 101 class with your life depended on it. Nobody cares about your uninitiated takes on politics kiddo
You're the one getting downvoted? He listened to your advice and now we have a dementia patient and a quack epidemiologist running the country. Also personal attacks online are cowardly, be a man and say that to peoples face.
If he listened to your retarded advice he would have been impeached or lost reelection by July. Stfu you arrogant cunt, I’ve forgotten more about politics than little shits like you will ever know.
You're too smooth brain. Go watch Hannity, cuckservative faggot.
And you won't reply to this. But you don't even know that plenty of people on the left current think that Trump silenced Fauci and abused his power. Your cucked worship of optics is the reason our country has passed the point of no return. But hey, at least Trump didn't get the media mad at him! Moron.
Yeah that last sentence of Trump's is 100% bullshit. Love the guy, but "I kept them because they've been in government for a long time" is a bullshit reason.
Bright side: He must realize completely, now, how much of the country was never behind the scamdemic and all the bullshit in the first place. Hopefully he realizes that putting as much distance between himself and this greatest sham ever is the best thing he can do going forward.
You’re delusional or you have the memory of a gold fish. If you think firing Fauci in March 2020 would have done anything except destroy Trump’s reeelction chances you’re an idiot
People fail to realize that the majority of Trump supporters are normies who are somewhat easily swayed too, just like a lot of Biden normies. I know hardcore Trump supporters who are enthusiastic about the vaccine. They still watch the news, even though they complain about it every night. Not everyone is like us here, posting and commenting on the intricacies of every political maneuver.
President Trump understood that some decisions will upset US, his strong supporters who will vote for him through broken glass, but appease the "on the fence" types into voting for him. In politics, winning is everything. It worked too; President Trump got like 10 million more votes this time around, but we all know what happened anyway.
About how many people do you think went from voting from Trump in 2016 to voting for Biden in 2020? I don't believe it's even more than a few thousand at most. I don't see how anyone could make that big of change in their views; in 2015 and '16, his words and actions were the subject of intense frenzied attention all across TV and the Internet and print media every single day.
As for Trump's relation to vaccines, I don't think he could be described as having been anti-vaccine as president or now. He made a few comments before the 2016 election about giant needles, and said in an interview a few months ago that he never got a flu vaccine before becoming president, but that's nothing like the staunch absolute anti-covid-vaccine stance expressed in top posts on here every day. In fact, it's in the 2nd top post of the past 7 days:
Wikipedia doesn't even name him in the entire intro of this article, but he has repeatedly said that he's the one who led the effort and made it a success:
People fail to realize that the majority of Trump supporters are normies who are somewhat easily swayed too
Yeah, swayed by Trump's charisma. Trump could've given his little speech about firing Fraud Fauci at some rallies and his supporters would be frenzied anti-Fauci people overnight. We had his back and we went to bat for him over and over again. This wouldn't have been anything new.
I never understood why Trump just clean house top to bottom and put in qualified MAGA people. If you worked under Obama and didn't resign, you probably shouldn't be in government anyway. I can't imagine that wouldn't have helped with the deep state / leakers / swamp dwellers.
I've said a few times now he could have walked out into the crowd of any MAGA rally ever held and picked out a cabinet full of people who would have been the most loyal and hard working to ever exist in politics.
You can only be Acting for a certain time period. Schumer did his part to drag out confirmations as long as possible then if the person was able to hang in there that long, they still had to go through the final confirmation and that meant navigating the multiple RINOs.
Rick Grennell is a perfect example of over a year to confirm him as the German ambassador.
FFS stop being so naive" He tried! TRAITOR PENCE recommended anti-MAGA people for critical positions such as personnel hiring who kept MAGA people out.
Then there is the Senate confirmations. It is not the private sector!
Ah yes all those “qualified MAGA people” just laying around. I can’t imagine why he didn’t hire any of THEM.
Look around doofus. We are all there is. Most of us don’t even live near a city. There aren’t just MAGA lawyers laying around willing to work for the most controversial President ever. Most of you wouldn’t even give 5 fucking dollars to his campaign... but let him just pull a “qualified MAGA” Vice President out of his ass....
You guys are retards. Honestly. Were none of you paying attention at all in the last 4 years? You are such so disloyal.
Lol any redneck illiterate fat trump diehard fan is infinitely more qualified to run this country than another D.C. snake lizard who will sell us out. Give me Mike Lindell the pillow man for SCOTUS and he would've definitely heard the election fraud far better than those fuckheads with countless qualifications and gay swamp experience.
Thanks to lazy, worthless, stingy “supporters” such as yourself who bitch and moan about everything with 0 understanding how politics or Washington actually works
Your argument is that Trump couldn't fire Fauci because optics. So you apparently think the media was fair to him otherwise. Which is obviously retarded.
And go search for "Trump censors fauci" and "Trump silences fauci". They ran hit pieces about Trump basically firing him anyway. You're stuck on a point that's just dumb. And you're a cuck faggot who was scared of covid. Lol
I said they were qualified and much more better in positions of power. Getting them in office is another discussion. "Trump would do a good job during his second term." "You realize for Trump to serve a second term, he has to win 2020. Right? Right...?" Yeah no shit retard. Wait, wait a minute. We're talking about Trump hiring people. Last time I checked, those kind of things doesn't require an electoral process of some kind. Or did your smugness faggot attitude got so up your ass you forgot which topic are we talking about?
Anways, I'll give your out-of-topic response a chance. We already have the base which is the Trump base. In the current political climate, people are going towards both ends of the spectrum and there's barely any moderates anymore. It's literally "us" versus "them" nowadays. Also, that is assuming that we are still living in a democratic political society. That isn't the case anymore.
You're telling me that if Trump supporters were to choose between someone who's from the blood of this country and an outsider of D.C. and someone who's going to sell their country and infringe on their rights all while being wealthy doing so, they would have a hard time deciding who to vote for?
You have anger issues and really aren't contributing anything positive to this site. "Most of us don't live anywhere near a city " wow, what an ignorant statement. I'm here in the heart of shit hole , lib tard ran PA. I also have purchased over a hundred dollars worth of merchandise from his store that contributed to his campaign as well as his election fraud fund. Which, seeing now as nothing happened. I am disappointed with that decision.
Fed firings seem to be incredibly hard to do. I can only think his hands were tied. The last line, about keeping them around because they're like a bad habit just does not ring true, considering the context of the two frauds.
But, looking back at how hard even his cabinet fought him, I'm not surprised.
We need to stop making excuses for him in this regard. Trump fucked up by keeping so many bad actors aboard. Even if he couldn’t replace them with better people he should have at least tried.
Look at all the things he did that actually made sense. They tried to impeach him for nothing. They attacked him for logical moves. Imagine he did something like fire Fauci.
So you want him to live in fear of bullshit charges that never stick? Trumps biggest mistake was trying to appease these psychos and it cost him the election.
This seems to be what a lot of people here don't get. Fearing the leftist narrative is exactly how they win. At some point you have to say fuck them, and Trump should've been the guy for that job. He says he's the guy for that job, but he really wasn't. Not to the extent needed anyway. And people here of all places defending it, come on. We can admit mistakes when they are obvious.
He did try. Were you even paying attention? All of his choices were either rejected by the Senate or bullied into withdrawing their nominations. (or accepted, those are the ones you are complaining about)
How easy do you think it is to appoint people when they all have to be approved by the swamp?
Nobody. They were accepted because they were swamp approved. Do you understand what I'm saying yet? The only people that could pass the senate test are those people that would not implement the MAGA agenda. So how is he supposed to replace the bad actors?
Maybe he won’t be successful. But he needs to at least try rather than let them continue running the show. Like I said, an empty position would be better than what we got.
I think he was unprepared in the sense that he didn't know just how corrupt it was. I didn't know the extent of it myself. I mean it's the military, the courts, the police, mayors, governors, etc. Everyone is in on it.
The reason he didn't attempt to arrest anyone is that imo, no one would prosecute. It would be an "emperor has no clothes" situation. The media would then begin to circulate the idea that Trump has gone mad with power and that people around him are highly concerned about how unstable he is...
The only leverage he had, if you can even call it leverage, is the sheer number of supporters who love him. He called everyone on Jan 6th as an attempt to persuade lawmakers that it's better to go along with him than against him, but obviously that was weaponized against him by the media and used to demonstrate how he was unfit for office. Even people on here parrot the narrative that Jan 6th was violent. I just had a guy tell me that Cruz was right to call it violent because "violence happened there", even though it was a handful of people relative to the thousands of patriots who showed up. That's the reach the media has.
The way I see it, it's basically a no-win situation until you can get MAGA people into critical positions like the senate, judiciary, governorships, etc. His administration was doomed from the start since he was forced to allow people who were against him into his inner circle to watch over him. People like to comment "why didn't he replace everyone like Obama?" but Obama had the approval of the cabal, he was their pick. It's not like Obama personally selected his cabinet. They were chosen for him by the same people who put him into office.
There are too many corrupt interests and people willing to sell their souls for a few bucks, and not enough people who are interested in holding them accountable, especially not people in a position of power to be able to do so. I think it will take a cultural shift and move back towards some kind of morality before we can do anything about the government.
The temptation of wealth and power is too great for most people, which is why we have come to this point. I don't disagree with you about what should happen, I just don't think there is a quick solution here. It will take generations to fix.
He did try to replace them, you idiot. There is literally a phone call of Trump trying to replace Fauci but saying he can’t possibly do it because of the blowback and the election.
Agreed. People here seem to be growing bitter and delusional. It’s easy to look back and judge, but people don’t seem to remember how much hell he went through just trying to nominate people, much less get them confirmed.
Even in cases where he did get people in, it took months or years. And all of those people were already vetted by the Senate, aka the swamp.
People here who think they would have done a better job really do not see how corrupt the whole system is yet.
Nice argument, dipshit. Going to shit because not everyone blindly worships trump? He made a lot of mistakes dude. A lot of them because he was more concerned with optics than doing what was right. Just look at who is sitting in the White House right now if you want an example of those mistakes.
He didn't need to fire FauXi or Berks. It was HIS covid task force and he could've staffed it with anyone he chose. Late in the game, they actually did bring some based people on-board but by then, it was too late and the damage was done.
A family member of mine worked in government. Had employees that laid about. Had to record every interaction and action, and still took around a couple of weeks for union reps to get in and look at the full record. Those employees got transferred. One did good, but the other got fired after 3 months.
Essentially, everything has to be recorded and go through hoops. Unions in government is a big part of that problem(most of them anyways since a extremely small one might[I use this very reservedly here] be okay).
The other part is its completely backwards from the private sector.
It was hard to do? His hands were tied? The alternative is watching the republic die. Holy fucking shit. No, enough excuses. It’s incompetence. On the night of the election the Democrats might as well have broadcasted the exact precincts and the exact counties and the exact polling places were they were about to steal the election.
In fact, they pretty much did!
No. I’m tired of hearing about how hard it was. Because there are way too many issues that apparently were “too hard“ for him to handle. We are allowed to recognize patterns. We couldn’t even arrest low level employees who were caught red-handed trying to frame a president for purposes of impeachment. We caught them red-handed, the proof is in their own hand written notes, and they completely got away with it. No. No excuses. No.
I’m grateful for some of the things he did, but at this point he needs to go away. He got the ball rolling we need someone better after this. Putting him back in in 2024 makes no sense. None.
2015 Trump- ban Muslims, MAGA, not sending their best
2019 Trump - wearing masks can be patriotic, here's Dr. Fauci to talk about the scary pandemic, pardons for Lil Wayne, based black unemployment check!?!
Don't forget the people telling you to wear masks because of this very deadly lung sickness are the same ones pulling theirs down to puff a cigarette or vape.
So many here shilled for the Middle East "peace treaties". They were basically agreements between two non-fighting countries to work together via funding from the United States. Based!?!? America First!? Let us build infrastructure in some shithole country if you sign an imaginary peace treaty! Fucking joke.
I'm convinced people like Kushner just can't help it. It must be genetic. I'm not a rabid Bannon fan but give me Bannon and Miller over damn Kushner any day.
Finally, Dr. Birx says she can't hear very well, but I can. There was no "very difficult" phone call, other than Dr. Birx's policies that would have led us directly into a COVID caused depression. She was a very negative voice who didn't have the right answers. Time has proven me correct. I only kept Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx on because they worked for the U.S. government for so long—they are like a bad habit!
So that accounts for Wray, Barr, Haspel, and many others.
Because they had worked for the government for so long.
Because they were part of the long term problem.... I felt I needed to be nice and keep them.
He couldn't just directly fire Fauci since there are laws which protect bureaucrats from being fired like political appointees can be. It's subject to Congressional approval I believe.
The "Schedule F" executive order was supposed to change some aspects of that, but it only went into activation on Jan 19, 2021 (the second to last day of his presidency). Biden repealed it on Day 1.
Weird. I voted for Trump to get rid of all those bureaucrats precisely because they had worked for the gummint for so many fucking years .. and I thought that firing pukes like this is what Trump meant when he rain in 2016 on a platform of draining the swamp.
Spin: “They are like a bad habit.”
Instead of personal responsibility: “I have a bad habit.”
He really wants to follow it up with a “You understand.”
No....we don’t. We were led to believe he relished firing Problems, and that he was NOT a softie with overriding feelz as the determinant in decision-making.
So yeah, “conned” feels not too far off the mark, unfortunately.
You can't fire bureaucrats like that. There's a lengthy process that takes months if not years and is subject to Congressional approval. There are laws that make most bureaucrats immune from being fired by the POTUS like political appointees can be.
The release would have had decent reception had he not written the last paragraph. The last paragraph opens up a 2024 “shoe-in” can of worms for himself. He may have opened the floodgates for doubt with that.
He predicted the steal many months in advance. He had loads of time to set multiple traps to catch it. He did nothing. I find it hard to believe, but he really blew it. I still wish him the best for 2024, but he needs to stop caring what the worthless Congress politicians think about him.
I really assumed he had something planned. It was hard not to. When the President says "they are going to use mail in voting to try to steal the election", you just kinda assume he was gonna do something about it. But I guess it's really my fault, according to some here.
You keep long term employees because you think they are loyal to the company. He thought they might be loyal to America. You and everyone else that criticizes him is such a fucking loser to think that a man making the hardest decisions on the PLANET made a few mistakes. For 4 years he fought the best he could but you in hindsight you are judging him.
Vaccine Passports have been planned since 2018 and guess when they said they wanted them implemented by? That's right 2021. This whole "pandemic" has been manipulated for that end goal.
I'll find the source and post it later unless someone else knows it
I know that the left has been bashing anti-vaxxers since about 2018 .. very likely for the purpose of setting up the shame motivation to shove this poison into our veins. Trump took the bait and is running with it like a fucking Marlin.
The right used to bash on this one too. At a certain point I didn’t even really have an opinion on the issue, but I noticed that just asking very basic, common sense questions about vaccines would cause meltdowns in people on the left and the right. That’s when I knew something was up. It’s not normal to fanboy for vaccines.
Ya I dont know why...I guess because they constantly bashed about that just like everything else and said it couldn't be done and we wouldn't have any vaccines until the summer 2021 so he holds it as an accomplishment. Funny how you're downvoted cuz you said something negative about him that IS a negative. Sorry to the dissenters but these vaccines are not for our benefit our our health, they are part of a push to get vaccine passports out, and should NOT be praised at all. The part where he got it done when they said he couldn't, that's different.
Didn’t Fauci predict that Trump would have a pandemic durning his presidency? Or was that BG... can’t recall, but no way PDJT didn’t know they were “predicting a pandemic”
To the first part, yes that was extremely fishy but wasn't picked up very much. Fauci said in 2017 "this administration" will face a pandemic. How the hell would he know THIS administration (Trump's) would face a pandemic meaning definitely....How can anyone say such a thing with a specific time frame and with such certainlty???
Look I am as biased as they come but I'll say it anyway:
I get what you're both saying and ultimately you're right, Trump made the decision. But if I had to guess, I'd bet Trump said something to the effect of "Are you fucking nuts? Close the country? Are you faggots insane?" And had about 30 cucks talk him out if it.
Totally. I remember standing there thinking: Dude fucking do something about fauci!!!! He's stabbing us all in the back!! Like watching a wrestling match and the bad guy gets an object from his shorts and the audience is screaming at the ref!!!! I have never felt so helpless. Trump was really the only one between us and fauci and he let fauci ass rape everybody in this country. I get teary eyed thinking about it.
Avoiding responsibility for actions of your employee never makes for good leadership .. and everyone can see it, whether you think you're fooling them or not.
Trump was Fauci's and Birx's boss. Pretty weasel of him to blame these assholes now when he could have fired them on their first inconsistent statement while the country was shut down.
That has been there since thedonald was on Reddit. That was the original point of this site, I agree it has morphed because times have changed but to say it should be removed is not very conservative of you.
That has been there since thedonald was on Reddit. That was the original point of this site
no shit
not very conservative of you
I want to conserve the Constitution and vision of the Founding Fathers, not the Trump worship. We are the spirit of MAGA - Trump served his purpose, but unfortunately wasn't the leader we elected him to be.
Which founding fathers? They had a diverse opinion on the development of America.
MAGA goes against a lot of the founding fathers principles of economic development. I'll be the first in line to support and defend economic nationalism but manufacturing wasn't all of their prerogative. Hell industrialism was barely a thing.
Sure Bill of Rights Freedom of Speech and Assembly but if anything both of those happen with Antifa daily compared to conservative groups and this site criticizes them.
The issue is 2A gives the right to keep and bear arms. Not use arms. The left uses their Speech and Assembly more effectively than the right uses their arms.
Trump might have not been the leader you hoped for but the citizens who support the movement arent the citizenship you hope for either.
If Trump had really done what the fictional one did in Inuyashiki and told everyone to kill and rape, you would defend that statement. You are a sheep. When we get hurt by these things, we must acknowledge them rather than live in La La Land. Look at where we ended up.
What does this even mean? Your comment is nonsense. Who would defend killing and raping? Because you support someone based on their policies doesn't mean you would support them if all of a sudden their policies switch to violence and pillage.
Yep, he really needs to stop overhyping it. His vaccine is not saving the world from imminent destruction. Covid is like a paper cut compared to an actual dangerous pandemic. We won’t be prepared next time because they all cried wolf with this one. Even Trump.
yup, its a crying shame because after 2016 he said we need to clean up the elections, and he kept yapping about all the illegals voting, and he won the popular, and then he did absolutely NOTHING to fix the problems. And assholes like Mr. CIA Pompeo completely abdicated his responsibility. The entire gov. despised Trump, and basically removed him at all costs.
sure, for starters Sign an EO stating you can not vote without state issued ID, sign another EO prohibiting all machine tabulation systems, that only hand ballots with verifiable addresses can be used. After showing the ID you have to fill out your address in a legible way, if your ballot can not later be verified your vote might be tossed. Sign an EO that each voter has the right and ability to check his her vote online within 1 week after all voting has stopped. The moment he stepped into office he could have done that, and today he would still be in office.
Sorry but that's voter suppression and a total violation of the Civil Rights Act. You're going to have to go to court to prove you're not a racist, and we own the courts, so GL with that.
Edit: Oh another thing, you are interfering in a state's right to conduct its own elections. The state legislature is the only entity that can determine the appropriate procedures to follow. I know this does not apply in the case that Democrats running the local elections want to invent new rules on how to handle mail-in ballots, but you're a Republican and you need to strictly follow the laws of our great country. Sorry bigot.
Didn't even fight for internet freedom. He used Alex Jones and let them tear Jones apart. Notice how he spoke about globalism a lot and suddenly stopped. All his supporters told him to do something about Big Tech and he ignored everyone.
I really think it's to collapse the mask/lockdown agenda and it's working. Yeah the vaccine is garbage, but it blows a hole them keeping us locked down for years.
He honestly believes it will help. He doesn't know about and hasn't read all the stories about the possible negative effects, and nobodies telling him either.
Which is what ruined his 1st term. He is like a goldfish in the ocean when it comes to Washington and they were all out to eat him but, now he knows who is who and is running shit from Florida. He holds the cards now for the majority of the Republican Party and they have to come to him and he will destroy you if you show up with empty promises!
You do realize that Trump won in a landslide though, right? If the election was about votes, then obviously Trump was successful because he won the most votes, by a lot. But cheating puts the whole thing on another level. It doesn’t make sense to blame “conspiracy theories” or “spicy memes” or “coronovirus response” for the election loss, since it was a fraud. And yeah, I cannot understand why Trump didn’t secure the election, since everyone saw this coming. So I think it is fair to say he didn’t secure the election, but the idea that he did something to not win the votes? No. He won the votes.
How does he “secure the election”? At some level this requires a cooperative court or law enforcement, right? Or agreeable governors and state legislators, at least.
I agree that if the entire machine is against you as President, and people refuse to follow your orders, then yeah, there isn’t much you could do. But I really thought before the Election that Trump should use the military to fortify it. Use “Russia” as the excuse. “We cannot let Putin hack the election again.” And then order two soldiers to monitor every polling place on Election Day. They do not touch the ballots, they do not count the ballots, they do not do anything but observe, but they have full access to go anywhere and keep an eye on it all. This could be naive, but I feel like the military would have had the authority to keep things under control. And I think it would have been harder to cheat when the military is standing right there, watching. Trump even said in a rally after the election that he considered doing this but was advised against it. He even said that might have been a mistake.
I know but it's the same thing there imo. The "military leaders", the Obama-appointed joint chiefs, etc. would start complaining to the media about how Trump was abusing the military and how they would "not stand" for the use of the military for political purposes.
I think the rank and file are fine, but they won't be calling the shots. Then various governors and state officials that are in the pocket of the deep state will come out of the woodwork and reject the federal interference in their local election process.
And I think it would have been harder to cheat when the military is standing right there, watching. Trump even said in a rally after the election that he considered doing this but was advised against it. He even said that might have been a mistake.
I read the same account of Patrick Byrne. He seems like a very intelligent man, but a bit naive. I recall him saying that the lawyers who opposed the plan of he and Flynn suggesting that it be the FBI or DHS to oversee the process instead of the national guard, and they AGREED. I was thinking, "wow they could not be even more telegraphic if they tried". The only reason some obstructionist lawyers would suggest DHS or FBI oversight instead of the national guard is because they know those agencies are in their pocket.
There was no way Trump was going to overcome that situation. He simply did not have the support he needed in the key places that were required. I think his goal now is sound though. He's trying to get trustworthy people elected so that this won't happen again. I just don't think it will be done within four years, personally speaking. I did not realize the extent of the corruption until this election. It is massive and at nearly every level of government. It tells me that people are getting filthy rich from the status quo and don't want it to be changed. Zuckerburg literally paid out $500 million to local officials in probably the most brazen bribery I've ever seen... I mean it was actually ADVERTISED by the media and no one blinks.
It will take generations to undo the corruption if at all. People are too brainwashed and pliable to change anything right now.
What is conspiracy about him hosting up and coming Republicans? What is the conspiracy about him helping up and comers rally against the swamp in office? Perhaps you misunderstand my "running shit" comment.
I get it, they are individuals he talks to every day...
But I remember when he was asked to disavow the Proud Boys and he said that he did not even know who they were, but he disavowed them.
He called everyone to DC on the 6th, and then he and his people called us all the same things that the left did. The whole event, not just the people who went into the Capitol. I expected it from the left.
I expected it from the rinos. I never expected it from him. Felt like being stabbed in the back with a twisted blade.
He disavows American patriots at the behest of those who would see America burn.
Again. I get it. He had everyone against him. He was up against the wall.
He did a lot of good. He showed so many people just how bad it was. He showed people that government can get things done, they just choose not to.
I truly believe that he loved America, and I would give about anything to get him back.
But the 3 things that I think he dropped the ball on are getting conned into the Covid/ vaccine scam, trusting the wrong people to have around him, and disavowing his supporters when he was pressed to.
He called everyone to DC on the 6th, and then he and his people called us all the same things that the left did. The whole event, not just the people who went into the Capitol. I expected it from the left. I expected it from the rinos. I never expected it from him.
I think we all new this vaccine was going to a bad place, but I forgive him for thinking it would like the flu vaccine, where the most afraid would take it and it would act as a placebo for the public.
I can’t even go to a theme park with my family because these morons require 2 year olds to wear a mask. That doesn’t happen and I would never do that to my toddler! We live in bizarro world.
I have to weigh in on this. I absolutely LOVE DJT. HOWEVER, why is he bashing these two people now? Where was his criticism when he had them up there EVERY F&*^% DAY? He put them out there as experts and we all listened to them as we were locked down in our homes in fear.
Monday morning quarterbacking about these two idiots is not productive and it's actually pissing me off. Sometimes, we have to criticize the criticizer.
As much as I enjoyed reading this, it was also partly frustrating. One of the worst aspects of the Trump administration was its failure to utilize the power it held.
I wouldnt brag about being responsible for getting the vaccines approved quickly (w/o even rat tests).... that could bite him in the butt when ppl start growing 8 extra limbs...
If Trump didn't push for a vaccine they would've fully fucked the economy. He slowed the spread of communism but I don't know if we can wait 3 more years.
No, at all. Not one school child should be sitting behind a glass barrier with a mask on their fucking little precious face. None of this should’ve happened. None of it. Governors destroyed their own states and violated the Constitution radically to do so. They should’ve been arrested. We should not have been talking about “states rights” to justify what happened. It was illegal and unconstitutional. They should be sitting in prison.
The election went unprotected and it was stolen and the people who told concerned conservatives just shut the fuck up when they brought up the completely wide-open security system of the election should be shamed out of this community. Completely. Anyone that told us to shut up and sit down instead of pressuring the president to do the right thing should be driven out of places like this. They are beyond useless, they are less than worthless. Qfags and morons should have no place here.
The people who ended up being right, right all along, were banned instead.
Any one of you motherfucking cuts who called those people “doomers” should be beaten.
Guess you forgot how even people here were crying in terror at the start of the pandemic? Oh it’s easy to talk trash now about how “it’s just a cold”, but I remember when doing that on this board would invite attack.
Even here people follow a herd mentality, and out there it’s far worse. Trump’s own supporters would have crucified him if he pretended like the pandemic was no big deal.
yeah. the whole statement is like making excuses and petty sniping. i mean we all have 20-20 hindsight but the things he's said after his term have me shaking my head.
They get congressional appropriations for AIDS and vaccines in Africa, pay off the local mayors or dictator to funnel the money back into, foundations or bank accounts and whoever else they need to bribe.
It’s one of the backbones of the deep state.
Coreys Digs has done a lot of research on it, as well as Amazing Polly
It's been super clear that Fauci is a bullshitter, a longtime Deep State asset, and probably knowingly acted to set up the Great Reset. In short, a traitor working for the elite or whoever deliberately set up the plandemic. I'm fairly sure he knew the covid tests produced unreliable phony results but he pushed it to move the agenda along.
They based the Covid scam off of the AIDS scam, PCR test and all.
AIDS was ‘supposed’ to cross over into the general population, and create the NWO ‘pandemic’. It didn’t work out because half of the population was monogamous and didn’t give a shit and the other half that was promiscuous saw it partially for the the scam that it was. ‘Ooh just wear a condom’
Meanwhile the AIDS vaccine was garbage and Birx and Redfield were caught fibbing the data.
You have the right idea but you need to ratchet up your recognition of evil by about 1000x.
15 years ago Fauci knew how to beat this. He opposed doing what was best for the public health. He's in on it, part of big pharma. And they're killing as many of us as possible.
Fraudci and Scarf-Lady BTFO, which is great, but the god emperor needs to start distancing himself from these Franken-shots. They are an untested gene therapy, not a vaccine. When shit hits the fan even worse than it already has President Trump is going to wish he let these globohomo pharma-peddlers take all the credit.
I think one of Trump's biggest mistakes was giving Dr. Fauci a platform to begin with. He should have had a team of doctors together rather than a single one, because the MSM clung to Fauci immediately and it would have been horrible optics for Trump to get rid of him which is why he ultimately kept him on.
I haven't looked into if it is possible for a president to fire a bureaucrat that isn't appointed or not, but I would imagine it is quite difficult. Assuming he couldn't fire him, which I am willing to accept, his statement should have said as much instead of "I kept them on because they served in government so long". That line just looks stupid and I am fairly certain Trump would have fired Fauci if he was told it was legally possible, so why not just admit it.
It’s totally fine to be wrong. Most of us had bad predictions early on in the pandemic. The data was a mess. Models were useless.
Problem with Fauci is the hubris and self-promotion. Guy is loving the attention and it’s gone to his head, especially when CNN started cutting Trump’s speeches but showing Fauci’s.
In a rare move, President Trump pulls the curtain aside to reveal how the two paragons of Medical Establishment virtue are actually nothing more than incompetent, self-serving mini-tyrants around whom he had to navigate to successfully fight the pandemic. God how I love our President 45.
this is the one thing that pisses me off about Trump. He knew the scamdemic was a hoax from the start. He also knew that HCQ, and other medicines are perfectly fine remedies. When you have remedies, and you make them available you eradicate the virus, no need for lock-downs, no need for masks, no need for any of it, and especially NO NEED for experimental vaccines. I understand now that the vaccine is out he wants to take credit for it, if it restores sanity, but I am thinking he doesn't fully understand the agenda behind the vaccines, complete medical tyranny and control.
Trump was almost completely an outsider to DC circles. So he had to try to trust somebodies in the system to get things done at least partly. Very often that somebody was corrupted, self-serving pos. Then the corrupt system threw him out via the fraudulent elections.
I heard Fuck Face Fauci trying to take credit for the vaccine today. I’m not a fan of the shot and think I will rely on my T-Cells to protect me but Trump was the one who got the vaccine out not Fuck Face!!! What a Joke!
You know Trump, we all agree with you on this. But you hired them, and kept them on board. Shouldn't you of fired them, and got better people in their spots? And why the phuck do you keep that slimy back stabber son in law of yours around? If you run again, please for the love of all keep him away from anything to do with your new administration, or any political dealings. The buck stopped with you, some of the people you keep around I just don't get it. Am I wrong guys? Geez.
He hired them but I don't blame him. He acted unimpeachably, bringing in the most reputable (in DC) scientific advisors for a delicate moment in history. But, as usual, everyone was a traitor and useless in their job.
I think I'm starting to like these letters even more than his tweets. He is able to really detail an issue and it gets a lot of coverage. It also lets slugs know he will not be silent or accept their BS but will in fact speak up and correct the record.
he should have fired Fauci last year and re-opened the country tbh.
Fuck optics. Get people with real science to give correct information on what to do, not some quack who hasn't had a patient in over 30 years.
Agree. Fauci and Birx should have been gone within the first month. Trump couldn't have "opened the economy" nationwide, but he should have put pressure on states to do it.
You saw he recognized the bullshit when he decided to hire Atlas. Fauci's a conniving piece of shit. Birx is a fucking retard.
I would say out of the two Birx defended Trump much more though. I don't think Trump should've shit on her as much as Fauci since she actually tended to defend him sometimes on the news.
EDIT: this is the quote I'm talking about:
“He’s been so attentive to the scientific literature and the details and the data,” Birx said. “I think his ability to analyze and integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit during these discussions about medical issues.”
~ Dr. Birx
I sort of agree. I thought Trump's criticism of Birx was well done, but he definitely needed to go after Fauci more. I did like that he snuck in the connection to the Wuhan lab, though.
Whenever Trump used to say he "got along with Fauci", I wanted to puke.
We all saw that Fauci was a fraud at the beginning of this crap last year. We all wanted Fauci fired. Trump kept him on for one obvious reason that we could all see plain as day: OPTICS. He was too concerned with how the left/media would portray the firing. They would run 24/7 campaigns like it was the end of the world that Trump is literally killing people with this decision. Trump was being too much of a nice guy. They already do this anyway, so might as well give them something real to whine about.
The entire covid agenda (lockdowns, voter fraud, socialism) could’ve been stopped by this one man. But instead he left fauci in power, pushed for a rushed vaccine, and let the voter fraud stand without declaring martial law. At this point I don’t know what if anything he’d be willing to actually do.
You need to consider how weak the office of the president really is - go read Eisenhower’s departure speech in 1961. It will explain how it works.
Trump was powerless
No one seems to understand this. They somehow think the President has ultimate powers. In some ways, DJT has more power out of office without conflicts of interest. We as all know the power of corporations after this last year. Time he unleashed his.
At the same time, Trump had powers that he didn’t use.
He should've made better appointments then.
The pardons sucked ass. But I heard that's because Jared auctioned the pardons off to the highest bidder and gave Trump a list.
U/halcyondream Agree with these sentiments to the fullest.
Yes he had to throw the capitol protestors under the bus because he had nothing to gain by supporting them.
The establishment has control over all communication, media, law enforcement, military, intelligence, etc... everything.
Literally anything he does could only hurt him, or at best do nothing, when the enemy controls the entire narrative.
Trump had the power to fire Fauci. That's just a fact.
No he didn't. There are laws which make bureaucrats like Fauci almost immune from being fired. That's why he's been around since the Reagan administration.
Ike's farewell speech is a must read. Very eloquently worded.
It showed with Bush following 9/11 and being forced into Iraq by the Military Industrial Complex and big US Corporations .... or commit a coup. Then, Obama was also forced to bail out the corrupt banks because Citi Group got him there in the first place according to Wiki.
Also, there was an Act in 1871 which created the Corporate United States of America as well. Trump is still OUR President of the REPUBLIC and sitting in Mar-A-Lago which was the original summer's retreat for Presidencies.
martial law with what army? military refused to follow DJT's IA orders in june and said they would drag his ass out of office if he invoked IA on election fraud.
This + a million. I hear so many people say " Trump should have fired this person" or "Trump should have sent the military in" etc, etc.
They don't realize that the whole of the government, media, military, both parties and many of his staff were actively working to hurt, embarrass, impair and destroy President Trump. Trump gave many orders that were outright ignored or refused. Trump never stood a chance.
It is amazing that he was as successful as he was with everyone out to hurt him. It was however a fucking miracle that he and his family are still alive.
I thought on Jan 6 him and his entire family got taken out tbh
The martial law thing I’ll just assume I don’t know the details as to why he didn’t declare it. But as far as fauci, the vaccine and all the covid nonsense, there was nothing stopping him from replacing fauci with an actual doctor, and nothing stopping him from setting up S.W.A.T. teams at the battleground polling locations to keep watch overnight. The voter fraud could’ve easily been stopped. It was carried out by slimy amoeba people. Trump and his supporters could’ve easily crushed them.
Elections are spelled out in the constitution to be controlled by the states. The President would not be able to do such a thing as what you are describing on election night.
The U.S. population is the largest armed force on the planet, many of which are prior service, extremely patriotic, and were mostly loyal to Trump at the time. Look how many he had come to the capitol unarmed ready to do whatever he said. He could have told everyone show up armed and ready to hang treasonous commies and half the military with twice the numbers of civilians would have showed up and got real work done. They used to hang traitors to the country, now we just hide in our house and stubbornly do what they say. All he had to do was give the orders and shit woulda got messy as fucken hell, but it would be a thousand times better than this slow road to disarmament and communism we are on now.
When they killed his brother, I think thats when he capitulated
First I've heard of this. .
You don’t remember?
There's a reason why this place changed its name. When we needed him most, Trump left us high and dry and for all of his talk about never giving up, well, he did just that with the fraudulent election.
no the name changed since the owner of the last domain was a cuck and took it down
also btw i think that the owner of the last domain lurks and posts on this new site. i'm pretty sure i've interacted with that guy on here LMAO.
Trump has not given up on the stolen election.
What is he working on? Genuinely curious.
Only given up on the most important parts of it, like dominion and smartmatic and let his patriots rot without pardons
Just like OJ Simpson in 1995 promised he would find the real killers. Don’t hold your breath.
Dude, it's been nearly 3 months and the Supreme Court doesn't give a shit. Not a single state has overturned their corrupt results and any re-counts you see talked about will be done solely so the left can point to them and say "See! The election was totally secure!" Yeah, I'd love for a miracle comeback that sees the traitors arrested, justice served, and I'd gladly eat my words about Trump, but I am not going to turn into one of those deranged denialists who kept saying that Trump was going to be arrested any day now. The left said that shit for over 4 fucking years. I'm not gonna be like those psychopaths.
And yes, I know the election was stolen. I watched it happen live. I'm not trusting Sessions. I'm not trusting Barr. I'm not trusting Kavanaugh or Barret. I'm not trusting Pence. I'm not trusting the plan for just 2 more weeks Q and I'm not buying into the theory that the military is in control, which by the way, would actually be the worst case scenario and I'm convinced that only people who have never served would say that as if it's a good thing.
Things are back to the "normal" of 5 years ago, except worse in every conceivable way and most people seem to have forgotten just how awful "normal" was, but at least the liars on the news aren't saying mean things now! FUCK! Shit sucks and I will not engage with any more of this blind false hope bullshit!
WTF! Meaning who the fuck are you?
I'm the person who was saying this months ago.
https://patriots.win/p/11QlYR01zw/from-the-art-of-the-deal-a-remin/c/
And I've had to swallow my pride because I was clearly wrong about that. I was also in DC on the 6th. He told us where to march to and then he didn't march with us.
So let's get something straight, right here, right now. I've never been at this party for Trump. I've been here for America and the ideals that it was founded upon. When Trump supported fighting for them and for me, I supported him. When he stop doing that, I stopped supporting him. So yeah, I'm not going to go around engaging in the idol worship and pretending that his reality television was any better than any of the other shitty reality television out there. Being upset with him also doesn't mean that I support the fraud in chief biden, his whore of babylon vice fraud Kamal on her knees Harris, or Mike 30 pieces of silver Pence. I just recognize that Trump isn't going to save this country. It's easy for him to bail with his billions of dollars and still live life on easy street. There's a whole bunch of us who aren't that lucky.
COLD HARD TRUTH.
True, while he was in office. As soon as he was out she was acting like everything he did was a mess, which her and Fauci were advising him to do at the time. Still have no idea why Trump didn't fire them on the spot, something going on there we dont know about for sure.
Can't just fire the highest-paid federal employee. DS must approve
It was his presidential covid task force. He could put anyone he wanted on there.
Birx came out about a month ago saying Trump ignored the "experts" and often had data that no one knew gave him. She was alluding to him being a stupid meat heat with ulterior motives.
She cucked definitely, but you'd never catch Fauci saying something like this in a million years:
“He’s been so attentive to the scientific literature and the details and the data,” Birx said. “I think his ability to analyze and integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit during these discussions about medical issues.”
It’s called ‘sucking up to keep your job’
Birx is an incredibly corrupt person. PEPFAR, GLOBAL FUND etc
I bet this whole year would have gone much better had they just used the HCQ cocktail of meds, which India sells OTC for a few bucks.
The would not have done that because then they couldn't give the vaccine. The condition for emergency use authorization is that there is no other medical treatment. That's why they shat on every alternative that wasn't "wait for the vaccine". It was a dual narrative. Maybe there were people that knew this and thought the vaccine would be a better solution that got held back due to that rule but more than likely it was a disinformation campaign paid for by pharmaceutical companies. I'm inclined to believe the latter because how obvious the shilling on the "news" is towards Pfizer and Moderna.
Remember, big pharma is owned by (and created by) the same people who owned MSM and then created the Fed to bring us to our knees economically.
The fake Lancet study killed HCQ
Between impeachment attempts and assassination attempts, he decided to yield on HCQ and go for a vaccine. Normally a vaccine would be a great idea.
He rolled the dice on white suburb Karens and lost. That's the truth (outside of the steal) He wanted to win over the suburb moms and didn't realize white Karens are enemy #1 -- lost to us -- and the mom demo like me in the suburbs is low key as a survival tactic. He got bad polling advice. I am the PTA, the school board if I want; his camp misread that aspect and now we're here, locally (he won nationally of course).
This is a truthful, if not unfortunate take.
Those white "Karens" aren't enemy #1. Suburban white moms still voted for Trump at a rate much higher than black women. Black women are 96% against Trump. And black men, what, 83%?
Yeah, but you don’t want to rely on blacks for anything.
Yes he could have. It was unconstitutional to “close” the economy. Those governors and mayors and city councils should’ve been arrested. They violated the Constitution, shredded the constitutional rights of their constituents. That’s illegal and they should’ve been arrested.
There is now nothing they can't get away with in the name of public health.
"Emergency Powers" will be abused and will eventually destroy America by seizing rights of free Americans.
My personal prediction.
Will be? It’s been happening for a year already, we’re in the fight of our lives no exaggeration
Some States have removed emergency powers from their Governor. We should all bombard our State legislators to do this (and many other things)
PA had three new resolutions to step power from our POS governor this upcoming election.
"General welfare"
Or "Public Safety". Just look at DUI checkpoints as an example.
I don't disagree that it's unconstitutional, and I agree that they should have been arrested. That doesn't give the President the constitutional authority to do anything in this scenario, though.
What people seem to miss is that you would need someone to execute the arrest. And anyone who attempted it would be stalled, then ganged up on and relentlessly attacked, the way Trump is.
You see how they are still going after him and everyone associated with him, looking for potential tax violations or whatever? The reality is that almost all of the federal and state governments are totally captured by corrupt and cowardly people. Trump can goad them into doing the right thing, but he can't make them do it.
Oh they violated the Constitution huh? Why didn't the military arrest them then? Every service member swears to uphold it, don't they? Do they need Trump's authorization to do their sworn duty?
He could have lifted his emergency orders which gave the governors the power to act like tyrants. Without the lockdowns there would have been no need for the mass mail in voting. Trump would have kept his victory because they needed the ability to commit massive election fraud. Far more widespread than their usual antics.
Any professional can get it wrong sometimes.
But there's a limit to this.
Nowhere but in the public sector can someone like fucking Fauci get it so wrong so many times and STILL have a job making $400K+ a year.
No way Fauci only makes 400k this clown is a multi millionaire easily makes millions off pharma relationships and sits on board of several international organizations.
His government salary is just a small portion of his income
400k as a “doctor” who sees zero patients.
Dude made bank.
$150k/year for the vaccine plus a multimillion dollar award plus books and shit.
Guy had a banner year.
He doesn’t even do surgical procedures. He’s a paper shuffler!
He’s a hobgoblin.
100,000+ destroyed small business owners and their families don't give a fuck about muh optics either. 6+ weeks of standing behind Fauci and Birx nodding in agreement, on camera, aren't just wiped away with this press release BTW.
Ahhh, election optics.
The same excuse we were given for why it was perfectly fine not to crush riots.
I’m still furious at the people who absolutely refused to hear any criticism of an otherwise good president. It’s astonishing to think of the damage done.
I want to go back and find each and every single one of the people who convinced millions not to worry about the lack of arrests in Spygate and Obamagate and how justice was right around the corner and I was a communist shill if I didn’t see it.
I hate them.
Fauci closed every baseball park in the country with his shit policy demands, then sits and enjoys a game without a mask on after throwing out the first pitch.
I lost a lot of respect for Trump when Fauci wasn’t nuked immediately when that photo hit the wire.
Unacceptable.
And every single motherfucker that told me it was perfectly fine, and every cunt bag who told me the election was safe, needs to be dragged out into the street.
You make some solid points
2020 Trump was not the same as 2016-2019 Trump. I loved that guy. Don't much care for 2020 Trump though.
That's it for me. I loved what he stood for... America First. He took that a long way with trade agreements, fighting China, holding NATO financially responsible, the border wall and getting Mexico to help with the migrant hoards. But 2020 was a complete shit show of bad decisions based on optics. If he would've held firm and stayed the Trump of 2015 and 2016, we would not be where we are now. I think he would've gotten even more votes if we had 2016 Trump in 2020.
You're just swallowing MSM propaganda. Snap out of it!
I still like Trump. He's a hundred times better than any other of these douchebag career politicians. Should he have put cup a dirtier fight? Perhaps. But then so many people would still be blaming everything on him. And it wouldnt be apparent to so many now that the democrats are straight demonic pedophile vampires.
Well, maybe. End of the day, the election was stolen and the optics ended up not mattering one bit. We're even back to morons pushing for gun control when the race riots of last year happened. We've passed the 1 year anniversary of 2 weeks to flatten the curve.
I have been an America 1st person my entire life. So when Trump came along in 2015, gunning for President, I supported him because he was supporting me. I was ridiculed and outcast by most of my family because I dared to stand up for him while the media filled their head with lies. Yet now that Trump has decided he's done supporting me I'm still supposed to support him? No. It doesn't work that way.
I'm in this for the country. For America and I don't even know why I still care at this point. It's not like the ideals I cared so much for even exist in it anymore as witnessed by half the people here still caring more about Trump than America itself.
Fuck off! How many attempts on your & your family's life have you hsf to deal with since 2015?
I'll wait🤡.
It's partly this and also partly the fact that Trump is a businessman at the end of the day, and a good guy. He doesn't want to see people get hurt. He was getting fed all kinds of contradictory information when the COVID psyop began and unfortunately went along with it. What he should have done was just plainly state to the American people that this was a mild respiratory illness, stop whining, and get back to work. He let bad faith actors control too much of the messaging, I think out of genuine concern at first. Then he lost control of the narrative.
Which included Pence because up until his overt betrayal, most supporters including on this site, believed in Pence.
More than zero. Oh, what? Did you think those of us regular people didn't have to deal with the violent left? How about you fuck off!
People complaining about election optics are ignoring the economic ramifications of optics during a pandemic. It would not be good for the nation’s economic health to be cutting off the heads of all the top health officials during the middle of a pandemic.
Yes, they gave a lot of bad advice and did a lot of stupid shit. Ultimately Trump kept us out of many calamities. This pandemic was a total fucking shitstorm of an attack waged by the CCP and globalists interests... The man was being attacked on all sides, with traitors all around. I doubt any of you would have navigated better!
He was the best guy we could have hoped for, at the time. Imagine having a POTUS like Hillary who would be totally in on the scam, locking us down mercilessly. At least Trump tried to assess all the contradictory information he was getting and make rational decisions. COVID was supposed to be a pretext to throw all our rights away, permanently. They almost succeeded.
Yep. Good example of Fauci at the baseball game. If the roles were reversed and Fauci was a conservative under a Democrat president, the Dems would've used that to force him to step down. Trump had the most powerful Twitter account in the world. He should've gone off on him. And not some stupid fucking quip - "hope Fauci enjoyed the game!!" No, something like "while millions of Americans lost their jobs due to unconstitutional lockdowns...etc."
Trump was just too scared to fight against the bullshit narrative they were gonna use against him. "Every covid death is on his hands." He stood up against the covid nonsense for about a month, and I thought he was gonna have our back. Then he said wearing a mask can be patriotic and gave billions to Big Pharma to fast track an experimental vaccine. Disappointing to say the least.
One of Trump's faults (not necessarily a fault) but he's a good guy and doesn't like seeing people get hurt. When COVID was initially blown out of proportion I think he got suckered into it and played along until it was too late. He should have made a statement early that this was a mild respiratory illness and everyone can continue living their lives as normal.
don't accept defeat quite yet
Is that what Q told you?
whatever, accept defeat if you want to faggot
Tick tock...
Dude. It’s been months. Stop with the Q psyop LARPing you gullible fool.
Go sniff some kids, commie
Dr. Tenpenny
Dr. Buttar
Dr. Kaufman
Dr. Shiva
Dr. Mikovitz
These are real physicians
Don’t forget Rand Paul, Simone Gold.
Simone was one of the first to lose her career because she was very effective with her group of doctors.
I don’t think she’s lost it yet. You can go on Frontline doctors and contribute to her defense regarding the Capitol on January 6.
Dr. Zelinko - HCQ PROTOCOL
Moneypenney? What's she got to do with this?
Rock and a hard place IMO.
He might have actually been removed from office.
While the vaccine is entirely needless, make sure you refer to it as the Trump vaccine. Rub it in the faces of the normies that the vaccine they craved was pushed through by him. And that pedo Joe lost 20million doses.
The idiots in charge were pushing for a great depression and had the weight of the media, the DNC and the RINOs behind them and Trump navigated it extremely well. This man will always be my president and there isn't anyone who can take someone deservingly remotely close as he does it. He always goes for the jugular and its beautiful and hilarious.
Yep. They were pushing for a depression. This is how strong we are. The threw everything at us and still are.
Pushed for a depression that they could lay at Trump's feet along with all the other shit they were pushing for. With their media control no matter the crisis they'd aim to pin it on Trump and advance their cause.
“Navigated it really well” is probably the most fucking blatantly horribly wrong thing I’ve ever seen. No. He did not navigate it really well. Hundreds of thousands of businesses are closed and children, precious children, are terrified in their masks sitting behind glass partitions in their public schools. No. He goddamn fucking did not navigate that well.
There was only one response to liars trying to destroy our nation and that was to fight back and resist, not cave-in and compromise. Our. Republic. Is. Dead. They were able to use this as a cover to steal the fucking election. No, he did not navigate it really well.
He was up against the might of most of the powers in this country. They'd have impeached him like they did twice and we'd have idiots that would have locked us down even harder.
Bitch just go the fuck outside! It doesn't matter what they say about lockdowns. Been ignoring them and mask mandates for a whole year now and surprise, surprise, everything is fine.
I'm out having a drink, Bitch, so I don't know who you're whiney ass is talking to. I'm not a small business owner and I'm not being targeted by a state government that has no qualms about squashing people's livelihoods when being a small business is tough enough.
"We have the Senate..." You must be a troll to say such nonsense like this.
Yes, enough of the RINOs in the senate absolutely would. Where have you been? They just needed an excuse.
Well I'm sure you could do better. I'm sure your local community is a shining city on a hill and if we just followed you, imploring everyone and insulting everyone, we would be hunky dory. Because you fought back and resisted not just these past 4 years but the past 40 as our Republic was chipped away. Go ahead slugger and step up and right the ship if you've got the answers. Trump was flawed but in my near 40 years nobody else who gave a damn has done as much as him. So yeah warts and all I'll stand with him and not some tough talking nobody on the internet.
It isn't a question of whether he could do better. It's a question of how Trump did when in that position. And everything he said is true. It's 90 degrees in March a year later and you have masses of zombies wearing masks even in deep red states. Small businesses are destroyed and Amazon is flying high. Yeah, we totally owned the libs!
Underrated comment.
Trump folded under the pressure and didn't follow his instincts.
Hindsight is 20/20
Remember when the virus first came on the scene we were told millions would die, it was deadly, Trump lost a friend with Covid...it is easy to judge now, and good points are being made, but it is easy to Monday morning quarterback, while Trump was in the middle of it all and trying to make sound decisions on the information he was being given by people who were considered experts in their fields.
Also this: Everyone seems to be forgetting that he put Mike Pence in charge of the task force. He also put Pence in charge of Space Force. He may have expected loyalty -- I sure would have.
All that time, Pence was acting the part of a loyal VP only to betray President Trump and our country when it counted the most.
In my opinion, Pence is the worst snake traitor in all of America's history. Even Benedict Arnold had the decency to leave the country.
You aren’t wrong.
I think being a germaphobe is his Achilles' heel. Just my two cents.
His ego is his achilles heel .. and the left exploited it.
I think Trump folded when they killed his brother.
I wouldn't do that. It'll make us look bad when the guinea pigs start dropping like flies from exaggerated immune responses next flu season.
He should have arrested them as soon as it was apparent it was a fraud
I hate that we're in the "shoulda coulda woulda" timeline already.
People like me said in great detail, point by point, exactly what was going to happen. This isn’t hindsight. Many of us were furious at the time and a lot of us actually got banned from this community for pointing out exactly what ended up happening.
The mistakes that were made were egregious and obvious to millions of people. But they weren’t allowed to criticize, they weren’t allowed to stop TEh 24/7 RaLLy draGON EnErrGy MEME PEPE KEK!!!!!!!!! spIcY tWEEt!!!!! fucking bullshit for five minutes to have a real conversation.
Those motherfuckers - you want your fucking rally? Go have it. Thanks for the help faggots. Thanks for sitting there and taking it up the ass while the rest of us were trying to stop the ship before it hit the iceberg.
Thanks for convincing millions of Trump voters it was perfectly fine to allow these governors to rape their own citizens and not pay for it, not be arrested, and for there to be absolutely no fight back from the executive branch.
Those dumb motherfuckers screamed about states rights because I didn’t want to criticize the president, the state doesn’t have a right to violate the Constitution, state don’t have the right to take away the constitutional rights of their own citizens you dumb motherfuckers. Keep making excuses, well, I guess it’s too late now, you made excuses until he’s no longer even in office. Thanks for that, too. Heaven forbid we try to pressure him into securing a fucking election instead of waiting to the last minute and then hiring the dumbest lawyers on Earth to do a horrible job.
Thanks you motherfuckers. You sat there and watched our republic die, you motherfuckers, and I hope each and every one of you gets hauled away when the time comes. I won’t help you.
Dude, everybody on here hated on Fauci, Birx and Redfield. They knew they were scum after the 1st presser. Trump got a lot of slack because it was supposed to be a part of ‘draining the swamp’. Maybe everybody got too caught up in that heuristic, as it was supposed to ‘awaken the masses’.
But we won the election hugely and these fuckers were supposed to get the comeuppance at the beginning of the second term. But it didn’t happen that way, because they stole it.
Trump either failed, or was in on it somehow.
You sat here too dumbass. Unless you have one of those standing desks. For somebody berating everyone else you sure do comment here a lot instead of "taking the fight to the enemy!!!!!!".
Well, then step forward as a new leader and I'll be glad to follow and consider what you're saying! Share a link(s) aside from here where you post your ideas.
https://americafirst.live/
Yeah, I said for about a year leading up to the election "we need to talk about what we're gonna do if the Dems successfully steal the election".
Gtfo of here commie shill! No low energy faggots allowed!! LANDSLIDE INCOMING
It was pretty maddening. So I quit talking about it.
I agree. There are some solid points being made, but at the same time, hindsight is 20/20
We're not in any timeline.
If shills spam a message across this board, do they dictate what timeline we're in?
Choose for yourself. Remember, there's like 1 out of 4 shills now since the Phony Election. Trying to subdue, dominate the Trump Movement.
Yeah, probably around March or April of last year at the latest XD
Yep but to the retards on here it's muhhh 99.8% non lethal
Regardless of the lethality we should have considered this an act of war by China and immediately blown up the Three Gorges Dam. Also expel all chinese nationals from the country. We don't need them
Unfortunately that's not how things work. Would have been nice though.
WHO was going to arrest them? The FBI? DOJ? the military?
Every one of these institutions had leadership working AGAINST PDJT WAKE UP!
True dat
Totally agree, and you can see his predicament now on the vax.
They had it all lined up ahead of time to release after Trump to make him look bad. If he didn’t have it made, they would pull theirs out of the closet immediately after and kill him on it forever.
Agree. I think Fauci had the vax ready to go and downplayed it. He was in on it IMO. Why else advocate FOR travel with China? Why else downplay the threat when he was funding gain of function research at the Wuhan lab...he knew what an accidental or purposeful release would do and he fucking enabled the spread. And surprise! We actually CAN do a vaccine in less than a year--who knew??? Fauci knew...he set it up with the CCP, imo.
As great as this statement is, he kept them around. For a guy famous for the “You’re fired” line, he allowed a lot of bad actors around in important positions.
His undoing ultimately
and treating the MSM seriously.
And not sueing the states on mail in voting BEFORE the election.
Would it really have mattered if the Supreme Court ignored the evidence earlier as opposed to later?
I disagree with this. He was the only political figure in my life that knew how to trash the media to great effect.
Yes, he did that well. But he should have taken interviews from Alex Jones rather than Chris Wallace. He shouldn't have given the MSM the legitimacy he did.
He basically ruined Chris Wallace. No one takes him seriously anymore.
I'm sure there was a lot in his camp worried about optics if he started canning doctors in the midst of a pandemic.
No, ours.
His undoing was stingy and lazy “supporters” like you who are incredibly quick to blame while having 0 understanding of Washington 101
He can’t just go around firing whoever he wants. The political repercussions would have sunk any re-election chances he had. You can’t just fire the top epidemiologist in the country during a pandemic... are you guys seriously this clueless?
But see, he could, because he was the president and he had that power.
He "lost" anyways, so what the fuck. I wanted him to fire everyone on day 1.
I was expecting a wave of firings after election day. He had nothing to lose yet he left so many snakes in positions to backstab him and the country.
And he didn’t pardon Snowden. Or Assange. That one was tough for me, I just don’t understand. He released nothing, he fired no one.
My understanding was that McConnell threatened to have the republicans go along with impeachment if he did.
But yo my nigga lil wizayne got dat pardon g bess belee dat got dat weapons charges pardon hell yeh bruh
I mean I do love me some Weezy. Don’t forget he got ASAP Rocky out of Swedish prison, too 😂😂
You think like a child
Pelosi is and adult. What’s the fucking difference, asshole?
You’re a clueless whiny idiot. Stop wasting my time
Compelling argument. Trump said his biggest mistake was not during comey on day 1.
We can't all be as level headed and mature as you
I never said anything about Comey you dumbfuck
Trump did though. Why are you so angry? You need to get laid
Yes you can.
He should have just blown the entire place up for four years, even more than he did.
Instead we got a Jew Embassy and Low BLM unemployment so I guess it was all worth it, right?
He single-handedly exposed the deep state and the corrupt media. Every single aspect of his life was trashed constantly 24/7. He knew that going in and yet he still did better than anyone else.
Shill
I'd argue his undoing was people like you feeding him bad advice. You don't lead by worrying about optics you lead by doing what is right and necessary. That was his whole campaign in 2016, saying things he was not supposed to. "Some bad hombres". Trump should never have put any one or two people on camera to be the face of the pandemic response. He should have had a team of credible people advising him.
You’re a retard that couldn’t win a city council election or pass a political science 101 class with your life depended on it. Nobody cares about your uninitiated takes on politics kiddo
You're the one getting downvoted? He listened to your advice and now we have a dementia patient and a quack epidemiologist running the country. Also personal attacks online are cowardly, be a man and say that to peoples face.
If he listened to your retarded advice he would have been impeached or lost reelection by July. Stfu you arrogant cunt, I’ve forgotten more about politics than little shits like you will ever know.
You seem like a true faggot
You’d forget a lot more if you said that to me in person. Coward.
You've done neither.
2:1 says you're a college kid who took a PoliSci class and now you think you're an expert.
Shows what you know, retard
Muh optics!
You kinda need optics to win elections, retard
How many times do I have to say this to you.
Trump lost in 2020.
You're too smooth brain. Go watch Hannity, cuckservative faggot.
And you won't reply to this. But you don't even know that plenty of people on the left current think that Trump silenced Fauci and abused his power. Your cucked worship of optics is the reason our country has passed the point of no return. But hey, at least Trump didn't get the media mad at him! Moron.
You’re a fucking retard that couldn’t win a city council election with your life depended on it. Your braindead opinions are irrelevant. Stop talking.
Imagine defending keeping Fauci around.
Cucked little bitch. Go watch Hannity.
Oh I get it. You were scared to death of covid when it first started. While most of us here were skeptical. Haha, what a scared little faggot.
Yup, we all gotta own our bad decisions, even him.
He didn’t. He said it as if everyone understands that long term problems are unfortunately needed to be kept around, for reasons of FEELZ.
“You understand.”
NO. WE FUCKING DON’T.
Yeah that last sentence of Trump's is 100% bullshit. Love the guy, but "I kept them because they've been in government for a long time" is a bullshit reason.
Bright side: He must realize completely, now, how much of the country was never behind the scamdemic and all the bullshit in the first place. Hopefully he realizes that putting as much distance between himself and this greatest sham ever is the best thing he can do going forward.
Oh I agree with you 100%.
You’re delusional or you have the memory of a gold fish. If you think firing Fauci in March 2020 would have done anything except destroy Trump’s reeelction chances you’re an idiot
People fail to realize that the majority of Trump supporters are normies who are somewhat easily swayed too, just like a lot of Biden normies. I know hardcore Trump supporters who are enthusiastic about the vaccine. They still watch the news, even though they complain about it every night. Not everyone is like us here, posting and commenting on the intricacies of every political maneuver.
President Trump understood that some decisions will upset US, his strong supporters who will vote for him through broken glass, but appease the "on the fence" types into voting for him. In politics, winning is everything. It worked too; President Trump got like 10 million more votes this time around, but we all know what happened anyway.
As to how anyone who supports Trump could watch the news every night is completely beyond me
About how many people do you think went from voting from Trump in 2016 to voting for Biden in 2020? I don't believe it's even more than a few thousand at most. I don't see how anyone could make that big of change in their views; in 2015 and '16, his words and actions were the subject of intense frenzied attention all across TV and the Internet and print media every single day.
As for Trump's relation to vaccines, I don't think he could be described as having been anti-vaccine as president or now. He made a few comments before the 2016 election about giant needles, and said in an interview a few months ago that he never got a flu vaccine before becoming president, but that's nothing like the staunch absolute anti-covid-vaccine stance expressed in top posts on here every day. In fact, it's in the 2nd top post of the past 7 days:
https://patriots.win/p/12i3uaJpjR/under-no-circumstance-will-i-eve/c/
https://patriots.win/top
Wikipedia doesn't even name him in the entire intro of this article, but he has repeatedly said that he's the one who led the effort and made it a success:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed
I call this the “Hannity Crowd.”
I realized this when no one else in PA wouldn’t take their mask off. This is a very underrated perspective.
Yeah, swayed by Trump's charisma. Trump could've given his little speech about firing Fraud Fauci at some rallies and his supporters would be frenzied anti-Fauci people overnight. We had his back and we went to bat for him over and over again. This wouldn't have been anything new.
he didn’t fire him. And we still lost.
You know Trump lost the 2020 election, right?
My only problem with him is that he always gave people several chances to do the right thing. He is a very compassionate guy, too nice.
I never understood why Trump just clean house top to bottom and put in qualified MAGA people. If you worked under Obama and didn't resign, you probably shouldn't be in government anyway. I can't imagine that wouldn't have helped with the deep state / leakers / swamp dwellers.
I've said a few times now he could have walked out into the crowd of any MAGA rally ever held and picked out a cabinet full of people who would have been the most loyal and hard working to ever exist in politics.
The Senate must CONFIRM THE CABINET!
PLEASE learn how government works!
I understand - but isn't that what "acting" positions are for? Pre-confirmation? Acting secretary of this, etc.
You can only be Acting for a certain time period. Schumer did his part to drag out confirmations as long as possible then if the person was able to hang in there that long, they still had to go through the final confirmation and that meant navigating the multiple RINOs.
Rick Grennell is a perfect example of over a year to confirm him as the German ambassador.
Well, TRYING with the right people is better than doing nothing at all OR picking the WRONG people.
FFS stop being so naive" He tried! TRAITOR PENCE recommended anti-MAGA people for critical positions such as personnel hiring who kept MAGA people out.
Then there is the Senate confirmations. It is not the private sector!
Ah yes all those “qualified MAGA people” just laying around. I can’t imagine why he didn’t hire any of THEM.
Look around doofus. We are all there is. Most of us don’t even live near a city. There aren’t just MAGA lawyers laying around willing to work for the most controversial President ever. Most of you wouldn’t even give 5 fucking dollars to his campaign... but let him just pull a “qualified MAGA” Vice President out of his ass....
You guys are retards. Honestly. Were none of you paying attention at all in the last 4 years? You are such so disloyal.
Lol any redneck illiterate fat trump diehard fan is infinitely more qualified to run this country than another D.C. snake lizard who will sell us out. Give me Mike Lindell the pillow man for SCOTUS and he would've definitely heard the election fraud far better than those fuckheads with countless qualifications and gay swamp experience.
This. They were out there.
You realize to win elections you gotta appeal to a broad base of 70 million+ people right, not just you and your friends who like the pillow guy??
Right? Right...?
He lost in 2020.
Thanks to lazy, worthless, stingy “supporters” such as yourself who bitch and moan about everything with 0 understanding how politics or Washington actually works
Your argument is that Trump couldn't fire Fauci because optics. So you apparently think the media was fair to him otherwise. Which is obviously retarded.
And go search for "Trump censors fauci" and "Trump silences fauci". They ran hit pieces about Trump basically firing him anyway. You're stuck on a point that's just dumb. And you're a cuck faggot who was scared of covid. Lol
He had 40-50% approval for most of his presidency you braindead fucking idiot.
I said they were qualified and much more better in positions of power. Getting them in office is another discussion. "Trump would do a good job during his second term." "You realize for Trump to serve a second term, he has to win 2020. Right? Right...?" Yeah no shit retard. Wait, wait a minute. We're talking about Trump hiring people. Last time I checked, those kind of things doesn't require an electoral process of some kind. Or did your smugness faggot attitude got so up your ass you forgot which topic are we talking about?
Anways, I'll give your out-of-topic response a chance. We already have the base which is the Trump base. In the current political climate, people are going towards both ends of the spectrum and there's barely any moderates anymore. It's literally "us" versus "them" nowadays. Also, that is assuming that we are still living in a democratic political society. That isn't the case anymore.
You're telling me that if Trump supporters were to choose between someone who's from the blood of this country and an outsider of D.C. and someone who's going to sell their country and infringe on their rights all while being wealthy doing so, they would have a hard time deciding who to vote for?
Ahahahahahahahahahaha gasp AHAHAHAHAHA. That was a good laugh, thanks.
https://news.yahoo.com/senate-blocks-confirmation-trump-fed-000215349.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/30/anthony-tata-trump-nominee-pentagon-fox-news-obama-terrorist/5543918002/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/04/misconduct-claims-may-derail-confirmation-of-trumps-va-pick.html
https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/the-short-sad-career-of-patrick-shanahan/
you make some good points.
It took a little while for me to realize that there are wayyyy more immature 20-somethings on this site than I had ever realized.
It’s sad. This site is becoming a mirror image of Reddit. These people are trash.
You have anger issues and really aren't contributing anything positive to this site. "Most of us don't live anywhere near a city " wow, what an ignorant statement. I'm here in the heart of shit hole , lib tard ran PA. I also have purchased over a hundred dollars worth of merchandise from his store that contributed to his campaign as well as his election fraud fund. Which, seeing now as nothing happened. I am disappointed with that decision.
You think buying $100 worth of merchandise is enough to save your country? Holy shit you are a fucking retard
Fed firings seem to be incredibly hard to do. I can only think his hands were tied. The last line, about keeping them around because they're like a bad habit just does not ring true, considering the context of the two frauds.
But, looking back at how hard even his cabinet fought him, I'm not surprised.
We need to stop making excuses for him in this regard. Trump fucked up by keeping so many bad actors aboard. Even if he couldn’t replace them with better people he should have at least tried.
Look at all the things he did that actually made sense. They tried to impeach him for nothing. They attacked him for logical moves. Imagine he did something like fire Fauci.
So you want him to live in fear of bullshit charges that never stick? Trumps biggest mistake was trying to appease these psychos and it cost him the election.
This seems to be what a lot of people here don't get. Fearing the leftist narrative is exactly how they win. At some point you have to say fuck them, and Trump should've been the guy for that job. He says he's the guy for that job, but he really wasn't. Not to the extent needed anyway. And people here of all places defending it, come on. We can admit mistakes when they are obvious.
The transportation secretary was a huge scam
Who has the backing of Pelosi. Another impeachment.
He did try. Were you even paying attention? All of his choices were either rejected by the Senate or bullied into withdrawing their nominations. (or accepted, those are the ones you are complaining about)
How easy do you think it is to appoint people when they all have to be approved by the swamp?
Who did he choose before Wray and Barr that were rejected?
Nobody. They were accepted because they were swamp approved. Do you understand what I'm saying yet? The only people that could pass the senate test are those people that would not implement the MAGA agenda. So how is he supposed to replace the bad actors?
Maybe he won’t be successful. But he needs to at least try rather than let them continue running the show. Like I said, an empty position would be better than what we got.
I think he was unprepared in the sense that he didn't know just how corrupt it was. I didn't know the extent of it myself. I mean it's the military, the courts, the police, mayors, governors, etc. Everyone is in on it.
The reason he didn't attempt to arrest anyone is that imo, no one would prosecute. It would be an "emperor has no clothes" situation. The media would then begin to circulate the idea that Trump has gone mad with power and that people around him are highly concerned about how unstable he is...
The only leverage he had, if you can even call it leverage, is the sheer number of supporters who love him. He called everyone on Jan 6th as an attempt to persuade lawmakers that it's better to go along with him than against him, but obviously that was weaponized against him by the media and used to demonstrate how he was unfit for office. Even people on here parrot the narrative that Jan 6th was violent. I just had a guy tell me that Cruz was right to call it violent because "violence happened there", even though it was a handful of people relative to the thousands of patriots who showed up. That's the reach the media has.
The way I see it, it's basically a no-win situation until you can get MAGA people into critical positions like the senate, judiciary, governorships, etc. His administration was doomed from the start since he was forced to allow people who were against him into his inner circle to watch over him. People like to comment "why didn't he replace everyone like Obama?" but Obama had the approval of the cabal, he was their pick. It's not like Obama personally selected his cabinet. They were chosen for him by the same people who put him into office.
There are too many corrupt interests and people willing to sell their souls for a few bucks, and not enough people who are interested in holding them accountable, especially not people in a position of power to be able to do so. I think it will take a cultural shift and move back towards some kind of morality before we can do anything about the government.
The temptation of wealth and power is too great for most people, which is why we have come to this point. I don't disagree with you about what should happen, I just don't think there is a quick solution here. It will take generations to fix.
Ok Monday Morning QB.
He did try to replace them, you idiot. There is literally a phone call of Trump trying to replace Fauci but saying he can’t possibly do it because of the blowback and the election.
You mean the election he lost? So he was more worried about appeasing rabid leftists than doing the right thing?
Except he didn't lose.
He failed to take any meaningful action to prepare for voter fraud everyone knew was coming
Too bad he didn't care about appeasing rabid right wingers.
Sigh. You’re either a total moron or a shill. And either way this site is going to shit
Agreed. People here seem to be growing bitter and delusional. It’s easy to look back and judge, but people don’t seem to remember how much hell he went through just trying to nominate people, much less get them confirmed.
Even in cases where he did get people in, it took months or years. And all of those people were already vetted by the Senate, aka the swamp.
People here who think they would have done a better job really do not see how corrupt the whole system is yet.
These idiots can barely hold a 9-5 minimum wage job and love to tell the president what he did wrong.
Nice argument, dipshit. Going to shit because not everyone blindly worships trump? He made a lot of mistakes dude. A lot of them because he was more concerned with optics than doing what was right. Just look at who is sitting in the White House right now if you want an example of those mistakes.
You have no idea how government actually works or are a shill.
You’re a fucking retard and I doubt you graduated highschool
Yeah it's disgusting how hard it is (if even possible) to fire a federal employee. Their pensions and benefits are way too much too
He didn't need to fire FauXi or Berks. It was HIS covid task force and he could've staffed it with anyone he chose. Late in the game, they actually did bring some based people on-board but by then, it was too late and the damage was done.
A family member of mine worked in government. Had employees that laid about. Had to record every interaction and action, and still took around a couple of weeks for union reps to get in and look at the full record. Those employees got transferred. One did good, but the other got fired after 3 months.
Essentially, everything has to be recorded and go through hoops. Unions in government is a big part of that problem(most of them anyways since a extremely small one might[I use this very reservedly here] be okay).
The other part is its completely backwards from the private sector.
It was hard to do? His hands were tied? The alternative is watching the republic die. Holy fucking shit. No, enough excuses. It’s incompetence. On the night of the election the Democrats might as well have broadcasted the exact precincts and the exact counties and the exact polling places were they were about to steal the election.
In fact, they pretty much did!
No. I’m tired of hearing about how hard it was. Because there are way too many issues that apparently were “too hard“ for him to handle. We are allowed to recognize patterns. We couldn’t even arrest low level employees who were caught red-handed trying to frame a president for purposes of impeachment. We caught them red-handed, the proof is in their own hand written notes, and they completely got away with it. No. No excuses. No.
I’m grateful for some of the things he did, but at this point he needs to go away. He got the ball rolling we need someone better after this. Putting him back in in 2024 makes no sense. None.
It makes sense if his presence means more MAGA based patriots rubbing their individual elections
STFU Sting! You are a shill or naive about how government actually works and how corrupt it had become.
You people still don’t get how captured the government is huh?
Put as many new guys in as you want. They won’t get half as far as Trump did.
Holy FUCK, I love these statements. 1000x more savage than any tweet (due to no character limit) except maybe the Barney Frank one.
Bring back 2016 era Trump savagery to save America plz GEOTUS
I really liked Trump after the pussy tapes. He was a different man after that announcement.
2015 Trump was best Trump.
2015 Trump- ban Muslims, MAGA, not sending their best
2019 Trump - wearing masks can be patriotic, here's Dr. Fauci to talk about the scary pandemic, pardons for Lil Wayne, based black unemployment check!?!
God I miss him so much!
Disrespectful!
Very Disrespectful.
edit: 2 downvotes from smoothie brains who don't understand the context.
Fuck the vaccine. Fuck the Covid hysteria. Its just a normal cold.
BRO - Do you not care about obese alcoholics with heart disease and asthma? They are like 3% chance of dying.
Don't forget the people telling you to wear masks because of this very deadly lung sickness are the same ones pulling theirs down to puff a cigarette or vape.
Thats my favorite
Vape naish, bish, you can't stop us!!
Lol accurate
No, it does not exist.
Been noticing he's a lot more blunt ever since those Kushner rumors went around. One can only hope.
What happened? He finally decided to stop letting that fuck whisper in his ear.
Well thats going to make for awkward family holidays. Kushner was never in it for America, he was making Israel great again and nothing else.
Fact
Welll what happened then? Other guy never answered.
I have no idea what happened for the Kushner falling out, first I've heard of such. Hope its true though.
Him and his whore wife can burn in hell for sabotaging Trumps first term.
So many here shilled for the Middle East "peace treaties". They were basically agreements between two non-fighting countries to work together via funding from the United States. Based!?!? America First!? Let us build infrastructure in some shithole country if you sign an imaginary peace treaty! Fucking joke.
I'm convinced people like Kushner just can't help it. It must be genetic. I'm not a rabid Bannon fan but give me Bannon and Miller over damn Kushner any day.
The public may have opened Trump's eyes to the poisonous snake in his midst.
what kushner rumors?
that kushner got shitcanned as an advisor.
And yet he still seems to be calling the moves on Trump going/ not going to social media platforms.
He should have fired that queer from being his daughter’s husband.
And appointed me to that position
He supposedly dumped the guy but there's been no proof or anything. Only time will tell.
Trump no longer needs (((advisors))).
OY VEY
Last part REALLY bothered me:
So that accounts for Wray, Barr, Haspel, and many others.
Because they had worked for the government for so long.
Because they were part of the long term problem.... I felt I needed to be nice and keep them.
What a god awful reason. Holy goddamn.
I hope to fuck he is realizing what he's done by not firing these faggot traitors at the same time.
He couldn't just directly fire Fauci since there are laws which protect bureaucrats from being fired like political appointees can be. It's subject to Congressional approval I believe.
The "Schedule F" executive order was supposed to change some aspects of that, but it only went into activation on Jan 19, 2021 (the second to last day of his presidency). Biden repealed it on Day 1.
Weird. I voted for Trump to get rid of all those bureaucrats precisely because they had worked for the gummint for so many fucking years .. and I thought that firing pukes like this is what Trump meant when he rain in 2016 on a platform of draining the swamp.
Feeling pretty conned, if I'm honest.
Spin: “They are like a bad habit.” Instead of personal responsibility: “I have a bad habit.”
He really wants to follow it up with a “You understand.”
No....we don’t. We were led to believe he relished firing Problems, and that he was NOT a softie with overriding feelz as the determinant in decision-making.
So yeah, “conned” feels not too far off the mark, unfortunately.
You can't fire bureaucrats like that. There's a lengthy process that takes months if not years and is subject to Congressional approval. There are laws that make most bureaucrats immune from being fired by the POTUS like political appointees can be.
That's why the deep state is so...well...deep.
Ignorant and bad advisors versus con job.
I vote ignorance.
Too much was exposed for it to be a con job.
I get it.
Sure does look like it from that "bad habit" statement.
The release would have had decent reception had he not written the last paragraph. The last paragraph opens up a 2024 “shoe-in” can of worms for himself. He may have opened the floodgates for doubt with that.
Yep.
If Trump was a contestant on his own show, he would've been fired. The manager/team leader is 90% at fault when the team loses.
Our team lost (from cheating) but Trump is to blame. At the end of the day, covid killed his presidency and now we are all going to suffer.
He predicted the steal many months in advance. He had loads of time to set multiple traps to catch it. He did nothing. I find it hard to believe, but he really blew it. I still wish him the best for 2024, but he needs to stop caring what the worthless Congress politicians think about him.
Exactly! I love the guy. One of the greatest (if not THE greatest) presidents we've ever had, but he let his guards down with this covid crap.
I don't think there will be a 2024. They got away with stealing 2020.
Let’s say he did catch it. Many people brought forth evidence of fraud in the individual states. What then?
Who will put those people in prison? The courts? Congress? The military? The police? The FBI? Are you seeing a pattern yet?
I really assumed he had something planned. It was hard not to. When the President says "they are going to use mail in voting to try to steal the election", you just kinda assume he was gonna do something about it. But I guess it's really my fault, according to some here.
We elected him to ‘drain the swamp’
FAIL
You keep long term employees because you think they are loyal to the company. He thought they might be loyal to America. You and everyone else that criticizes him is such a fucking loser to think that a man making the hardest decisions on the PLANET made a few mistakes. For 4 years he fought the best he could but you in hindsight you are judging him.
You should’ve fired them.
Bad habits are hard to drop.
Vaccine Passports have been planned since 2018 and guess when they said they wanted them implemented by? That's right 2021. This whole "pandemic" has been manipulated for that end goal.
I'll find the source and post it later unless someone else knows it
I know that the left has been bashing anti-vaxxers since about 2018 .. very likely for the purpose of setting up the shame motivation to shove this poison into our veins. Trump took the bait and is running with it like a fucking Marlin.
The right used to bash on this one too. At a certain point I didn’t even really have an opinion on the issue, but I noticed that just asking very basic, common sense questions about vaccines would cause meltdowns in people on the left and the right. That’s when I knew something was up. It’s not normal to fanboy for vaccines.
Ya I dont know why...I guess because they constantly bashed about that just like everything else and said it couldn't be done and we wouldn't have any vaccines until the summer 2021 so he holds it as an accomplishment. Funny how you're downvoted cuz you said something negative about him that IS a negative. Sorry to the dissenters but these vaccines are not for our benefit our our health, they are part of a push to get vaccine passports out, and should NOT be praised at all. The part where he got it done when they said he couldn't, that's different.
Didn’t Fauci predict that Trump would have a pandemic durning his presidency? Or was that BG... can’t recall, but no way PDJT didn’t know they were “predicting a pandemic”
To the first part, yes that was extremely fishy but wasn't picked up very much. Fauci said in 2017 "this administration" will face a pandemic. How the hell would he know THIS administration (Trump's) would face a pandemic meaning definitely....How can anyone say such a thing with a specific time frame and with such certainlty???
Pretty decent amount of revisionist history in this press release. Glad I'm not the only one who sees it.
Look I am as biased as they come but I'll say it anyway:
I get what you're both saying and ultimately you're right, Trump made the decision. But if I had to guess, I'd bet Trump said something to the effect of "Are you fucking nuts? Close the country? Are you faggots insane?" And had about 30 cucks talk him out if it.
Totally. I remember standing there thinking: Dude fucking do something about fauci!!!! He's stabbing us all in the back!! Like watching a wrestling match and the bad guy gets an object from his shorts and the audience is screaming at the ref!!!! I have never felt so helpless. Trump was really the only one between us and fauci and he let fauci ass rape everybody in this country. I get teary eyed thinking about it.
Avoiding responsibility for actions of your employee never makes for good leadership .. and everyone can see it, whether you think you're fooling them or not.
Trump was Fauci's and Birx's boss. Pretty weasel of him to blame these assholes now when he could have fired them on their first inconsistent statement while the country was shut down.
You have a good point.
This is Trump. He can speak on whatever the fk he wants.
this is such reddit-tier thinking. that shit needs to be removed from the sidebar
That has been there since thedonald was on Reddit. That was the original point of this site, I agree it has morphed because times have changed but to say it should be removed is not very conservative of you.
no shit
I want to conserve the Constitution and vision of the Founding Fathers, not the Trump worship. We are the spirit of MAGA - Trump served his purpose, but unfortunately wasn't the leader we elected him to be.
Which founding fathers? They had a diverse opinion on the development of America.
MAGA goes against a lot of the founding fathers principles of economic development. I'll be the first in line to support and defend economic nationalism but manufacturing wasn't all of their prerogative. Hell industrialism was barely a thing.
Sure Bill of Rights Freedom of Speech and Assembly but if anything both of those happen with Antifa daily compared to conservative groups and this site criticizes them.
The issue is 2A gives the right to keep and bear arms. Not use arms. The left uses their Speech and Assembly more effectively than the right uses their arms.
Trump might have not been the leader you hoped for but the citizens who support the movement arent the citizenship you hope for either.
I'm sure you could do so much better. 🙄
than you, yes
I’m starting to think this site is not what I thought it was. Trashing Trump from the sidelines isn’t what MAGA is about.
dont worry, its about slobbing his knob and trusting the plan
If Trump had really done what the fictional one did in Inuyashiki and told everyone to kill and rape, you would defend that statement. You are a sheep. When we get hurt by these things, we must acknowledge them rather than live in La La Land. Look at where we ended up.
What does this even mean? Your comment is nonsense. Who would defend killing and raping? Because you support someone based on their policies doesn't mean you would support them if all of a sudden their policies switch to violence and pillage.
Fuck you were here because of people like you. Fuck you.
Nah man were hear because of RINOs and the failure of Trump to drain the swamp the past 4 years. I'm just pointing out the irony.
HE didn't put them on TV...
The Fraud whored himself out in the media and the media propped him up...
It was such a jarring and obvious propaganda campaign that people(even around here) don't seem to even mention
Have you forgotten about the weeks of daily coronavirus press briefings Trump did?
No...Trump was serious about it and wanted to do the best he could
The priest always cared about fame and scientific contracts...
Yes, that's the problem!
POTUS still pushing the garbage vaccine.
Yep, he really needs to stop overhyping it. His vaccine is not saving the world from imminent destruction. Covid is like a paper cut compared to an actual dangerous pandemic. We won’t be prepared next time because they all cried wolf with this one. Even Trump.
Well in a sense it is. It is making retards feel safe from the sniffles. Thus retards start agreeing to open up.
Placebo at its finest.
Wtf is wrong with him?
POTUS, 2018: "They're going to commit election fraud, but we'll stop them."
POTUS, 2019: "They're going to commit election fraud, but we'll stop them."
POTUS, 2020: "They're going to commit election fraud, but we'll stop them."
POTUS, 2021: "Oops"
yup, its a crying shame because after 2016 he said we need to clean up the elections, and he kept yapping about all the illegals voting, and he won the popular, and then he did absolutely NOTHING to fix the problems. And assholes like Mr. CIA Pompeo completely abdicated his responsibility. The entire gov. despised Trump, and basically removed him at all costs.
What should he have done? How could it be accomplished given the current status of the federal and state governments?
sure, for starters Sign an EO stating you can not vote without state issued ID, sign another EO prohibiting all machine tabulation systems, that only hand ballots with verifiable addresses can be used. After showing the ID you have to fill out your address in a legible way, if your ballot can not later be verified your vote might be tossed. Sign an EO that each voter has the right and ability to check his her vote online within 1 week after all voting has stopped. The moment he stepped into office he could have done that, and today he would still be in office.
Sorry but that's voter suppression and a total violation of the Civil Rights Act. You're going to have to go to court to prove you're not a racist, and we own the courts, so GL with that.
Edit: Oh another thing, you are interfering in a state's right to conduct its own elections. The state legislature is the only entity that can determine the appropriate procedures to follow. I know this does not apply in the case that Democrats running the local elections want to invent new rules on how to handle mail-in ballots, but you're a Republican and you need to strictly follow the laws of our great country. Sorry bigot.
Didn't even fight for internet freedom. He used Alex Jones and let them tear Jones apart. Notice how he spoke about globalism a lot and suddenly stopped. All his supporters told him to do something about Big Tech and he ignored everyone.
What can he do? He begged Congress to repeal 230 and they gave him the middle finger.
EOs are weak. You need Congress to do most things.
He's looking for a pat on the back .. at the expense of free and healthy Americans. Eye opening, tbh.
I really think it's to collapse the mask/lockdown agenda and it's working. Yeah the vaccine is garbage, but it blows a hole them keeping us locked down for years.
He honestly believes it will help. He doesn't know about and hasn't read all the stories about the possible negative effects, and nobodies telling him either.
DJT can sometimes be loyal to a fault. He should have fired both of them when it was obvious they were both charlatans.
Which is what ruined his 1st term. He is like a goldfish in the ocean when it comes to Washington and they were all out to eat him but, now he knows who is who and is running shit from Florida. He holds the cards now for the majority of the Republican Party and they have to come to him and he will destroy you if you show up with empty promises!
edit = extra word
What is Trump running from Florida? A bubble bath? A conga line?
Sounds like a Qtard to me.
8kun
You do realize that Trump won in a landslide though, right? If the election was about votes, then obviously Trump was successful because he won the most votes, by a lot. But cheating puts the whole thing on another level. It doesn’t make sense to blame “conspiracy theories” or “spicy memes” or “coronovirus response” for the election loss, since it was a fraud. And yeah, I cannot understand why Trump didn’t secure the election, since everyone saw this coming. So I think it is fair to say he didn’t secure the election, but the idea that he did something to not win the votes? No. He won the votes.
How does he “secure the election”? At some level this requires a cooperative court or law enforcement, right? Or agreeable governors and state legislators, at least.
I agree that if the entire machine is against you as President, and people refuse to follow your orders, then yeah, there isn’t much you could do. But I really thought before the Election that Trump should use the military to fortify it. Use “Russia” as the excuse. “We cannot let Putin hack the election again.” And then order two soldiers to monitor every polling place on Election Day. They do not touch the ballots, they do not count the ballots, they do not do anything but observe, but they have full access to go anywhere and keep an eye on it all. This could be naive, but I feel like the military would have had the authority to keep things under control. And I think it would have been harder to cheat when the military is standing right there, watching. Trump even said in a rally after the election that he considered doing this but was advised against it. He even said that might have been a mistake.
I know but it's the same thing there imo. The "military leaders", the Obama-appointed joint chiefs, etc. would start complaining to the media about how Trump was abusing the military and how they would "not stand" for the use of the military for political purposes.
I think the rank and file are fine, but they won't be calling the shots. Then various governors and state officials that are in the pocket of the deep state will come out of the woodwork and reject the federal interference in their local election process.
I read the same account of Patrick Byrne. He seems like a very intelligent man, but a bit naive. I recall him saying that the lawyers who opposed the plan of he and Flynn suggesting that it be the FBI or DHS to oversee the process instead of the national guard, and they AGREED. I was thinking, "wow they could not be even more telegraphic if they tried". The only reason some obstructionist lawyers would suggest DHS or FBI oversight instead of the national guard is because they know those agencies are in their pocket.
There was no way Trump was going to overcome that situation. He simply did not have the support he needed in the key places that were required. I think his goal now is sound though. He's trying to get trustworthy people elected so that this won't happen again. I just don't think it will be done within four years, personally speaking. I did not realize the extent of the corruption until this election. It is massive and at nearly every level of government. It tells me that people are getting filthy rich from the status quo and don't want it to be changed. Zuckerburg literally paid out $500 million to local officials in probably the most brazen bribery I've ever seen... I mean it was actually ADVERTISED by the media and no one blinks.
It will take generations to undo the corruption if at all. People are too brainwashed and pliable to change anything right now.
What is conspiracy about him hosting up and coming Republicans? What is the conspiracy about him helping up and comers rally against the swamp in office? Perhaps you misunderstand my "running shit" comment.
He is loyal to the wrong people.
I get it, they are individuals he talks to every day...
But I remember when he was asked to disavow the Proud Boys and he said that he did not even know who they were, but he disavowed them.
He called everyone to DC on the 6th, and then he and his people called us all the same things that the left did. The whole event, not just the people who went into the Capitol. I expected it from the left. I expected it from the rinos. I never expected it from him. Felt like being stabbed in the back with a twisted blade.
He disavows American patriots at the behest of those who would see America burn.
Again. I get it. He had everyone against him. He was up against the wall.
He did a lot of good. He showed so many people just how bad it was. He showed people that government can get things done, they just choose not to.
I truly believe that he loved America, and I would give about anything to get him back.
But the 3 things that I think he dropped the ball on are getting conned into the Covid/ vaccine scam, trusting the wrong people to have around him, and disavowing his supporters when he was pressed to.
Did he?
Thanks Mr. President! (And beggin the colonels pardon, I'm still not taking that load of shit vaccine)
I think we all new this vaccine was going to a bad place, but I forgive him for thinking it would like the flu vaccine, where the most afraid would take it and it would act as a placebo for the public.
Translation: Fauci throws like a girl. True.
I can’t even go to a theme park with my family because these morons require 2 year olds to wear a mask. That doesn’t happen and I would never do that to my toddler! We live in bizarro world.
I have to weigh in on this. I absolutely LOVE DJT. HOWEVER, why is he bashing these two people now? Where was his criticism when he had them up there EVERY F&*^% DAY? He put them out there as experts and we all listened to them as we were locked down in our homes in fear.
Monday morning quarterbacking about these two idiots is not productive and it's actually pissing me off. Sometimes, we have to criticize the criticizer.
Fauci's the most qualified person. It made sense to put him there.
Bashing these 2 now is retaliatory, since they bashed DJT recently.
I'm dying.
They should have been fired years ago.
As much as I enjoyed reading this, it was also partly frustrating. One of the worst aspects of the Trump administration was its failure to utilize the power it held.
"I only kept them on because they worked for the government for so long"
OOF. OOF. DAFUQ.
Learn what it takes to fire a federal employee.
Right?
Everyone just shut up and get microchipped already
Those Pelosi $TSLA calls still gotta keep printing.
Bill Gates and Fauxi vax calls are even more profitable
I wouldnt brag about being responsible for getting the vaccines approved quickly (w/o even rat tests).... that could bite him in the butt when ppl start growing 8 extra limbs...
If Trump didn't push for a vaccine they would've fully fucked the economy. He slowed the spread of communism but I don't know if we can wait 3 more years.
NO. There never should’ve been a compromise.
No, at all. Not one school child should be sitting behind a glass barrier with a mask on their fucking little precious face. None of this should’ve happened. None of it. Governors destroyed their own states and violated the Constitution radically to do so. They should’ve been arrested. We should not have been talking about “states rights” to justify what happened. It was illegal and unconstitutional. They should be sitting in prison.
The election went unprotected and it was stolen and the people who told concerned conservatives just shut the fuck up when they brought up the completely wide-open security system of the election should be shamed out of this community. Completely. Anyone that told us to shut up and sit down instead of pressuring the president to do the right thing should be driven out of places like this. They are beyond useless, they are less than worthless. Qfags and morons should have no place here.
The people who ended up being right, right all along, were banned instead.
Any one of you motherfucking cuts who called those people “doomers” should be beaten.
Guess you forgot how even people here were crying in terror at the start of the pandemic? Oh it’s easy to talk trash now about how “it’s just a cold”, but I remember when doing that on this board would invite attack.
Even here people follow a herd mentality, and out there it’s far worse. Trump’s own supporters would have crucified him if he pretended like the pandemic was no big deal.
I'll gut you like a fish with my bare hands.
Pull your head out of your ass.
I'm not with Trump on this one. Fuck vaccines.
Should have shitcanned them (and about 20 other subversive fucks) at the first sign of fuckery. Looks weak to be writing bullshit like this.
yeah. the whole statement is like making excuses and petty sniping. i mean we all have 20-20 hindsight but the things he's said after his term have me shaking my head.
Weak looking or whatever, it needs to be told.
Why? It's reckless whining at this point.
Dr Birx was so obedient though. She told all the lies she was supposed to and never contradicted GEOTUS. She’s ok I think.
She’s corrupt slime- PEPFAR and GLOBAL FUND. Responsible for laundering billions away from taxpayers
Laundered? How??
They get congressional appropriations for AIDS and vaccines in Africa, pay off the local mayors or dictator to funnel the money back into, foundations or bank accounts and whoever else they need to bribe.
It’s one of the backbones of the deep state.
Coreys Digs has done a lot of research on it, as well as Amazing Polly
It's been super clear that Fauci is a bullshitter, a longtime Deep State asset, and probably knowingly acted to set up the Great Reset. In short, a traitor working for the elite or whoever deliberately set up the plandemic. I'm fairly sure he knew the covid tests produced unreliable phony results but he pushed it to move the agenda along.
They based the Covid scam off of the AIDS scam, PCR test and all.
AIDS was ‘supposed’ to cross over into the general population, and create the NWO ‘pandemic’. It didn’t work out because half of the population was monogamous and didn’t give a shit and the other half that was promiscuous saw it partially for the the scam that it was. ‘Ooh just wear a condom’
Meanwhile the AIDS vaccine was garbage and Birx and Redfield were caught fibbing the data.
So they had a few good dry run.
You have the right idea but you need to ratchet up your recognition of evil by about 1000x.
15 years ago Fauci knew how to beat this. He opposed doing what was best for the public health. He's in on it, part of big pharma. And they're killing as many of us as possible.
Fraudci and Scarf-Lady BTFO, which is great, but the god emperor needs to start distancing himself from these Franken-shots. They are an untested gene therapy, not a vaccine. When shit hits the fan even worse than it already has President Trump is going to wish he let these globohomo pharma-peddlers take all the credit.
I think one of Trump's biggest mistakes was giving Dr. Fauci a platform to begin with. He should have had a team of doctors together rather than a single one, because the MSM clung to Fauci immediately and it would have been horrible optics for Trump to get rid of him which is why he ultimately kept him on.
Fauci's supposed to know what he's doing. He actually does, he's just evil.
No vaxx, no masks. End it all. Fuck these two CCP shills.
One of trump's biggest mistakes was not fire dr clout chasing Fauci.
Could he even have fired him though? Look into what it takes to fire a federal employee.
I haven't looked into if it is possible for a president to fire a bureaucrat that isn't appointed or not, but I would imagine it is quite difficult. Assuming he couldn't fire him, which I am willing to accept, his statement should have said as much instead of "I kept them on because they served in government so long". That line just looks stupid and I am fairly certain Trump would have fired Fauci if he was told it was legally possible, so why not just admit it.
This is spot on
It’s totally fine to be wrong. Most of us had bad predictions early on in the pandemic. The data was a mess. Models were useless.
Problem with Fauci is the hubris and self-promotion. Guy is loving the attention and it’s gone to his head, especially when CNN started cutting Trump’s speeches but showing Fauci’s.
In a rare move, President Trump pulls the curtain aside to reveal how the two paragons of Medical Establishment virtue are actually nothing more than incompetent, self-serving mini-tyrants around whom he had to navigate to successfully fight the pandemic. God how I love our President 45.
this is the one thing that pisses me off about Trump. He knew the scamdemic was a hoax from the start. He also knew that HCQ, and other medicines are perfectly fine remedies. When you have remedies, and you make them available you eradicate the virus, no need for lock-downs, no need for masks, no need for any of it, and especially NO NEED for experimental vaccines. I understand now that the vaccine is out he wants to take credit for it, if it restores sanity, but I am thinking he doesn't fully understand the agenda behind the vaccines, complete medical tyranny and control.
Trump was almost completely an outsider to DC circles. So he had to try to trust somebodies in the system to get things done at least partly. Very often that somebody was corrupted, self-serving pos. Then the corrupt system threw him out via the fraudulent elections.
I heard Fuck Face Fauci trying to take credit for the vaccine today. I’m not a fan of the shot and think I will rely on my T-Cells to protect me but Trump was the one who got the vaccine out not Fuck Face!!! What a Joke!
I wouldn’t be bragging about that.
You know Trump, we all agree with you on this. But you hired them, and kept them on board. Shouldn't you of fired them, and got better people in their spots? And why the phuck do you keep that slimy back stabber son in law of yours around? If you run again, please for the love of all keep him away from anything to do with your new administration, or any political dealings. The buck stopped with you, some of the people you keep around I just don't get it. Am I wrong guys? Geez.
you're not wrong.
Thanks.
"Dr Fauci also said we didn't need to wear masks, then a few months later said we needed to wear masks
... and now two or three of them. "
POTUS 45 - the master of subtly nuking his detractors.
To little, too late. As usual.
i find fauxi most contemptible....that little fucker needs a reckoning.
Who hasn't been suffering the mental strains of this bullshit? I still am.
I told everyone a year ago
Everyone here knew a year ago.
He hired them but I don't blame him. He acted unimpeachably, bringing in the most reputable (in DC) scientific advisors for a delicate moment in history. But, as usual, everyone was a traitor and useless in their job.
DJT didn't hire them, they've been there forever.
Trump statements are basically long form tweets. I kinda Iike it.
As much as I love Trump he fucked up by keeping swamp creatures in prime positions. I hope he learned his lesson for term 2.
I wouldn't count on a 2nd term. We don't have elections anymore, remember?
President Trump nails it every time, what a legend!
Trump should have canned both of them.
They're both fed employees. Can't just can them. It's a long complicated process to fire fed employees.
Then Trump should have fired the procedure, then fired them.
I miss this guy
I miss this man so much.
He sounds like he bottled up so much and the poison is coming out.
Write that book, I want to hear all the dirt on our enemies.
I think I'm starting to like these letters even more than his tweets. He is able to really detail an issue and it gets a lot of coverage. It also lets slugs know he will not be silent or accept their BS but will in fact speak up and correct the record.