As great as this statement is, he kept them around. For a guy famous for the “You’re fired” line, he allowed a lot of bad actors around in important positions.
Yes, he did that well. But he should have taken interviews from Alex Jones rather than Chris Wallace. He shouldn't have given the MSM the legitimacy he did.
His undoing was stingy and lazy “supporters” like you who are incredibly quick to blame while having 0 understanding of Washington 101
He can’t just go around firing whoever he wants. The political repercussions would have sunk any re-election chances he had. You can’t just fire the top epidemiologist in the country during a pandemic... are you guys seriously this clueless?
He single-handedly exposed the deep state and the corrupt media. Every single aspect of his life was trashed constantly 24/7. He knew that going in and yet he still did better than anyone else.
I'd argue his undoing was people like you feeding him bad advice. You don't lead by worrying about optics you lead by doing what is right and necessary. That was his whole campaign in 2016, saying things he was not supposed to. "Some bad hombres".
Trump should never have put any one or two people on camera to be the face of the pandemic response. He should have had a team of credible people advising him.
You’re a retard that couldn’t win a city council election or pass a political science 101 class with your life depended on it. Nobody cares about your uninitiated takes on politics kiddo
Yeah that last sentence of Trump's is 100% bullshit. Love the guy, but "I kept them because they've been in government for a long time" is a bullshit reason.
Bright side: He must realize completely, now, how much of the country was never behind the scamdemic and all the bullshit in the first place. Hopefully he realizes that putting as much distance between himself and this greatest sham ever is the best thing he can do going forward.
You’re delusional or you have the memory of a gold fish. If you think firing Fauci in March 2020 would have done anything except destroy Trump’s reeelction chances you’re an idiot
People fail to realize that the majority of Trump supporters are normies who are somewhat easily swayed too, just like a lot of Biden normies. I know hardcore Trump supporters who are enthusiastic about the vaccine. They still watch the news, even though they complain about it every night. Not everyone is like us here, posting and commenting on the intricacies of every political maneuver.
President Trump understood that some decisions will upset US, his strong supporters who will vote for him through broken glass, but appease the "on the fence" types into voting for him. In politics, winning is everything. It worked too; President Trump got like 10 million more votes this time around, but we all know what happened anyway.
About how many people do you think went from voting from Trump in 2016 to voting for Biden in 2020? I don't believe it's even more than a few thousand at most. I don't see how anyone could make that big of change in their views; in 2015 and '16, his words and actions were the subject of intense frenzied attention all across TV and the Internet and print media every single day.
As for Trump's relation to vaccines, I don't think he could be described as having been anti-vaccine as president or now. He made a few comments before the 2016 election about giant needles, and said in an interview a few months ago that he never got a flu vaccine before becoming president, but that's nothing like the staunch absolute anti-covid-vaccine stance expressed in top posts on here every day. In fact, it's in the 2nd top post of the past 7 days:
Wikipedia doesn't even name him in the entire intro of this article, but he has repeatedly said that he's the one who led the effort and made it a success:
People fail to realize that the majority of Trump supporters are normies who are somewhat easily swayed too
Yeah, swayed by Trump's charisma. Trump could've given his little speech about firing Fraud Fauci at some rallies and his supporters would be frenzied anti-Fauci people overnight. We had his back and we went to bat for him over and over again. This wouldn't have been anything new.
I never understood why Trump just clean house top to bottom and put in qualified MAGA people. If you worked under Obama and didn't resign, you probably shouldn't be in government anyway. I can't imagine that wouldn't have helped with the deep state / leakers / swamp dwellers.
I've said a few times now he could have walked out into the crowd of any MAGA rally ever held and picked out a cabinet full of people who would have been the most loyal and hard working to ever exist in politics.
FFS stop being so naive" He tried! TRAITOR PENCE recommended anti-MAGA people for critical positions such as personnel hiring who kept MAGA people out.
Then there is the Senate confirmations. It is not the private sector!
Ah yes all those “qualified MAGA people” just laying around. I can’t imagine why he didn’t hire any of THEM.
Look around doofus. We are all there is. Most of us don’t even live near a city. There aren’t just MAGA lawyers laying around willing to work for the most controversial President ever. Most of you wouldn’t even give 5 fucking dollars to his campaign... but let him just pull a “qualified MAGA” Vice President out of his ass....
You guys are retards. Honestly. Were none of you paying attention at all in the last 4 years? You are such so disloyal.
Lol any redneck illiterate fat trump diehard fan is infinitely more qualified to run this country than another D.C. snake lizard who will sell us out. Give me Mike Lindell the pillow man for SCOTUS and he would've definitely heard the election fraud far better than those fuckheads with countless qualifications and gay swamp experience.
I said they were qualified and much more better in positions of power. Getting them in office is another discussion. "Trump would do a good job during his second term." "You realize for Trump to serve a second term, he has to win 2020. Right? Right...?" Yeah no shit retard. Wait, wait a minute. We're talking about Trump hiring people. Last time I checked, those kind of things doesn't require an electoral process of some kind. Or did your smugness faggot attitude got so up your ass you forgot which topic are we talking about?
Anways, I'll give your out-of-topic response a chance. We already have the base which is the Trump base. In the current political climate, people are going towards both ends of the spectrum and there's barely any moderates anymore. It's literally "us" versus "them" nowadays. Also, that is assuming that we are still living in a democratic political society. That isn't the case anymore.
You're telling me that if Trump supporters were to choose between someone who's from the blood of this country and an outsider of D.C. and someone who's going to sell their country and infringe on their rights all while being wealthy doing so, they would have a hard time deciding who to vote for?
You have anger issues and really aren't contributing anything positive to this site. "Most of us don't live anywhere near a city " wow, what an ignorant statement. I'm here in the heart of shit hole , lib tard ran PA. I also have purchased over a hundred dollars worth of merchandise from his store that contributed to his campaign as well as his election fraud fund. Which, seeing now as nothing happened. I am disappointed with that decision.
Fed firings seem to be incredibly hard to do. I can only think his hands were tied. The last line, about keeping them around because they're like a bad habit just does not ring true, considering the context of the two frauds.
But, looking back at how hard even his cabinet fought him, I'm not surprised.
We need to stop making excuses for him in this regard. Trump fucked up by keeping so many bad actors aboard. Even if he couldn’t replace them with better people he should have at least tried.
Look at all the things he did that actually made sense. They tried to impeach him for nothing. They attacked him for logical moves. Imagine he did something like fire Fauci.
So you want him to live in fear of bullshit charges that never stick? Trumps biggest mistake was trying to appease these psychos and it cost him the election.
He did try. Were you even paying attention? All of his choices were either rejected by the Senate or bullied into withdrawing their nominations. (or accepted, those are the ones you are complaining about)
How easy do you think it is to appoint people when they all have to be approved by the swamp?
He did try to replace them, you idiot. There is literally a phone call of Trump trying to replace Fauci but saying he can’t possibly do it because of the blowback and the election.
He didn't need to fire FauXi or Berks. It was HIS covid task force and he could've staffed it with anyone he chose. Late in the game, they actually did bring some based people on-board but by then, it was too late and the damage was done.
A family member of mine worked in government. Had employees that laid about. Had to record every interaction and action, and still took around a couple of weeks for union reps to get in and look at the full record. Those employees got transferred. One did good, but the other got fired after 3 months.
Essentially, everything has to be recorded and go through hoops. Unions in government is a big part of that problem(most of them anyways since a extremely small one might[I use this very reservedly here] be okay).
The other part is its completely backwards from the private sector.
It was hard to do? His hands were tied? The alternative is watching the republic die. Holy fucking shit. No, enough excuses. It’s incompetence. On the night of the election the Democrats might as well have broadcasted the exact precincts and the exact counties and the exact polling places were they were about to steal the election.
In fact, they pretty much did!
No. I’m tired of hearing about how hard it was. Because there are way too many issues that apparently were “too hard“ for him to handle. We are allowed to recognize patterns. We couldn’t even arrest low level employees who were caught red-handed trying to frame a president for purposes of impeachment. We caught them red-handed, the proof is in their own hand written notes, and they completely got away with it. No. No excuses. No.
I’m grateful for some of the things he did, but at this point he needs to go away. He got the ball rolling we need someone better after this. Putting him back in in 2024 makes no sense. None.
As great as this statement is, he kept them around. For a guy famous for the “You’re fired” line, he allowed a lot of bad actors around in important positions.
His undoing ultimately
and treating the MSM seriously.
And not sueing the states on mail in voting BEFORE the election.
Would it really have mattered if the Supreme Court ignored the evidence earlier as opposed to later?
I disagree with this. He was the only political figure in my life that knew how to trash the media to great effect.
Yes, he did that well. But he should have taken interviews from Alex Jones rather than Chris Wallace. He shouldn't have given the MSM the legitimacy he did.
I'm sure there was a lot in his camp worried about optics if he started canning doctors in the midst of a pandemic.
No, ours.
His undoing was stingy and lazy “supporters” like you who are incredibly quick to blame while having 0 understanding of Washington 101
He can’t just go around firing whoever he wants. The political repercussions would have sunk any re-election chances he had. You can’t just fire the top epidemiologist in the country during a pandemic... are you guys seriously this clueless?
But see, he could, because he was the president and he had that power.
He "lost" anyways, so what the fuck. I wanted him to fire everyone on day 1.
I was expecting a wave of firings after election day. He had nothing to lose yet he left so many snakes in positions to backstab him and the country.
You think like a child
Yes you can.
He should have just blown the entire place up for four years, even more than he did.
Instead we got a Jew Embassy and Low BLM unemployment so I guess it was all worth it, right?
He single-handedly exposed the deep state and the corrupt media. Every single aspect of his life was trashed constantly 24/7. He knew that going in and yet he still did better than anyone else.
Shill
I'd argue his undoing was people like you feeding him bad advice. You don't lead by worrying about optics you lead by doing what is right and necessary. That was his whole campaign in 2016, saying things he was not supposed to. "Some bad hombres". Trump should never have put any one or two people on camera to be the face of the pandemic response. He should have had a team of credible people advising him.
You’re a retard that couldn’t win a city council election or pass a political science 101 class with your life depended on it. Nobody cares about your uninitiated takes on politics kiddo
Muh optics!
You kinda need optics to win elections, retard
Yup, we all gotta own our bad decisions, even him.
He didn’t. He said it as if everyone understands that long term problems are unfortunately needed to be kept around, for reasons of FEELZ.
“You understand.”
NO. WE FUCKING DON’T.
Yeah that last sentence of Trump's is 100% bullshit. Love the guy, but "I kept them because they've been in government for a long time" is a bullshit reason.
Bright side: He must realize completely, now, how much of the country was never behind the scamdemic and all the bullshit in the first place. Hopefully he realizes that putting as much distance between himself and this greatest sham ever is the best thing he can do going forward.
Oh I agree with you 100%.
You’re delusional or you have the memory of a gold fish. If you think firing Fauci in March 2020 would have done anything except destroy Trump’s reeelction chances you’re an idiot
People fail to realize that the majority of Trump supporters are normies who are somewhat easily swayed too, just like a lot of Biden normies. I know hardcore Trump supporters who are enthusiastic about the vaccine. They still watch the news, even though they complain about it every night. Not everyone is like us here, posting and commenting on the intricacies of every political maneuver.
President Trump understood that some decisions will upset US, his strong supporters who will vote for him through broken glass, but appease the "on the fence" types into voting for him. In politics, winning is everything. It worked too; President Trump got like 10 million more votes this time around, but we all know what happened anyway.
As to how anyone who supports Trump could watch the news every night is completely beyond me
About how many people do you think went from voting from Trump in 2016 to voting for Biden in 2020? I don't believe it's even more than a few thousand at most. I don't see how anyone could make that big of change in their views; in 2015 and '16, his words and actions were the subject of intense frenzied attention all across TV and the Internet and print media every single day.
As for Trump's relation to vaccines, I don't think he could be described as having been anti-vaccine as president or now. He made a few comments before the 2016 election about giant needles, and said in an interview a few months ago that he never got a flu vaccine before becoming president, but that's nothing like the staunch absolute anti-covid-vaccine stance expressed in top posts on here every day. In fact, it's in the 2nd top post of the past 7 days:
https://patriots.win/p/12i3uaJpjR/under-no-circumstance-will-i-eve/c/
https://patriots.win/top
Wikipedia doesn't even name him in the entire intro of this article, but he has repeatedly said that he's the one who led the effort and made it a success:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed
I call this the “Hannity Crowd.”
I realized this when no one else in PA wouldn’t take their mask off. This is a very underrated perspective.
Yeah, swayed by Trump's charisma. Trump could've given his little speech about firing Fraud Fauci at some rallies and his supporters would be frenzied anti-Fauci people overnight. We had his back and we went to bat for him over and over again. This wouldn't have been anything new.
he didn’t fire him. And we still lost.
You know Trump lost the 2020 election, right?
My only problem with him is that he always gave people several chances to do the right thing. He is a very compassionate guy, too nice.
I never understood why Trump just clean house top to bottom and put in qualified MAGA people. If you worked under Obama and didn't resign, you probably shouldn't be in government anyway. I can't imagine that wouldn't have helped with the deep state / leakers / swamp dwellers.
I've said a few times now he could have walked out into the crowd of any MAGA rally ever held and picked out a cabinet full of people who would have been the most loyal and hard working to ever exist in politics.
The Senate must CONFIRM THE CABINET!
PLEASE learn how government works!
I understand - but isn't that what "acting" positions are for? Pre-confirmation? Acting secretary of this, etc.
FFS stop being so naive" He tried! TRAITOR PENCE recommended anti-MAGA people for critical positions such as personnel hiring who kept MAGA people out.
Then there is the Senate confirmations. It is not the private sector!
Ah yes all those “qualified MAGA people” just laying around. I can’t imagine why he didn’t hire any of THEM.
Look around doofus. We are all there is. Most of us don’t even live near a city. There aren’t just MAGA lawyers laying around willing to work for the most controversial President ever. Most of you wouldn’t even give 5 fucking dollars to his campaign... but let him just pull a “qualified MAGA” Vice President out of his ass....
You guys are retards. Honestly. Were none of you paying attention at all in the last 4 years? You are such so disloyal.
Lol any redneck illiterate fat trump diehard fan is infinitely more qualified to run this country than another D.C. snake lizard who will sell us out. Give me Mike Lindell the pillow man for SCOTUS and he would've definitely heard the election fraud far better than those fuckheads with countless qualifications and gay swamp experience.
This. They were out there.
You realize to win elections you gotta appeal to a broad base of 70 million+ people right, not just you and your friends who like the pillow guy??
Right? Right...?
I said they were qualified and much more better in positions of power. Getting them in office is another discussion. "Trump would do a good job during his second term." "You realize for Trump to serve a second term, he has to win 2020. Right? Right...?" Yeah no shit retard. Wait, wait a minute. We're talking about Trump hiring people. Last time I checked, those kind of things doesn't require an electoral process of some kind. Or did your smugness faggot attitude got so up your ass you forgot which topic are we talking about?
Anways, I'll give your out-of-topic response a chance. We already have the base which is the Trump base. In the current political climate, people are going towards both ends of the spectrum and there's barely any moderates anymore. It's literally "us" versus "them" nowadays. Also, that is assuming that we are still living in a democratic political society. That isn't the case anymore.
You're telling me that if Trump supporters were to choose between someone who's from the blood of this country and an outsider of D.C. and someone who's going to sell their country and infringe on their rights all while being wealthy doing so, they would have a hard time deciding who to vote for?
Ahahahahahahahahahaha gasp AHAHAHAHAHA. That was a good laugh, thanks.
https://news.yahoo.com/senate-blocks-confirmation-trump-fed-000215349.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/30/anthony-tata-trump-nominee-pentagon-fox-news-obama-terrorist/5543918002/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/04/misconduct-claims-may-derail-confirmation-of-trumps-va-pick.html
https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/the-short-sad-career-of-patrick-shanahan/
you make some good points.
It took a little while for me to realize that there are wayyyy more immature 20-somethings on this site than I had ever realized.
It’s sad. This site is becoming a mirror image of Reddit. These people are trash.
You have anger issues and really aren't contributing anything positive to this site. "Most of us don't live anywhere near a city " wow, what an ignorant statement. I'm here in the heart of shit hole , lib tard ran PA. I also have purchased over a hundred dollars worth of merchandise from his store that contributed to his campaign as well as his election fraud fund. Which, seeing now as nothing happened. I am disappointed with that decision.
You think buying $100 worth of merchandise is enough to save your country? Holy shit you are a fucking retard
Fed firings seem to be incredibly hard to do. I can only think his hands were tied. The last line, about keeping them around because they're like a bad habit just does not ring true, considering the context of the two frauds.
But, looking back at how hard even his cabinet fought him, I'm not surprised.
We need to stop making excuses for him in this regard. Trump fucked up by keeping so many bad actors aboard. Even if he couldn’t replace them with better people he should have at least tried.
Look at all the things he did that actually made sense. They tried to impeach him for nothing. They attacked him for logical moves. Imagine he did something like fire Fauci.
So you want him to live in fear of bullshit charges that never stick? Trumps biggest mistake was trying to appease these psychos and it cost him the election.
The transportation secretary was a huge scam
Who has the backing of Pelosi. Another impeachment.
He did try. Were you even paying attention? All of his choices were either rejected by the Senate or bullied into withdrawing their nominations. (or accepted, those are the ones you are complaining about)
How easy do you think it is to appoint people when they all have to be approved by the swamp?
Who did he choose before Wray and Barr that were rejected?
Ok Monday Morning QB.
He did try to replace them, you idiot. There is literally a phone call of Trump trying to replace Fauci but saying he can’t possibly do it because of the blowback and the election.
You mean the election he lost? So he was more worried about appeasing rabid leftists than doing the right thing?
Yeah it's disgusting how hard it is (if even possible) to fire a federal employee. Their pensions and benefits are way too much too
He didn't need to fire FauXi or Berks. It was HIS covid task force and he could've staffed it with anyone he chose. Late in the game, they actually did bring some based people on-board but by then, it was too late and the damage was done.
A family member of mine worked in government. Had employees that laid about. Had to record every interaction and action, and still took around a couple of weeks for union reps to get in and look at the full record. Those employees got transferred. One did good, but the other got fired after 3 months.
Essentially, everything has to be recorded and go through hoops. Unions in government is a big part of that problem(most of them anyways since a extremely small one might[I use this very reservedly here] be okay).
The other part is its completely backwards from the private sector.
It was hard to do? His hands were tied? The alternative is watching the republic die. Holy fucking shit. No, enough excuses. It’s incompetence. On the night of the election the Democrats might as well have broadcasted the exact precincts and the exact counties and the exact polling places were they were about to steal the election.
In fact, they pretty much did!
No. I’m tired of hearing about how hard it was. Because there are way too many issues that apparently were “too hard“ for him to handle. We are allowed to recognize patterns. We couldn’t even arrest low level employees who were caught red-handed trying to frame a president for purposes of impeachment. We caught them red-handed, the proof is in their own hand written notes, and they completely got away with it. No. No excuses. No.
I’m grateful for some of the things he did, but at this point he needs to go away. He got the ball rolling we need someone better after this. Putting him back in in 2024 makes no sense. None.
It makes sense if his presence means more MAGA based patriots rubbing their individual elections
STFU Sting! You are a shill or naive about how government actually works and how corrupt it had become.
You people still don’t get how captured the government is huh?
Put as many new guys in as you want. They won’t get half as far as Trump did.