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Mtnlion667 70 points ago +71 / -1

So true! My body my choice, no kids in cages, stormed the capital when Kavanaugh was appointed, they're so easily deluded that they can be made to argue against the very point they were arguing for in a matter of months and never catch on to their controllers.

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WhoWasThatMaskedMan 46 points ago +46 / -0

Leftists use intellectual dishonesty as a weapon. That's why pointing out their hypocrisy is useless. They have no desire or capacity for sober reflection.

They'll gladly betray ideals to gain power.

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War_Hamster 20 points ago +20 / -0

It's tricky, but if you preface the conversation right, you can actually break through sometimes. It's cognitive dissonance, and they'll resist, but if you keep on them with reason, you can sometimes open their eyes.

I think that's called "red pilling. /s

An example of prefacing the conversation: "How do you define integrity".

They'll respond with a flowery dissertation of ideals. You then hold them to the standard that they themselves set. It's a very effective psychological trick that was taught to me by a master debater years ago.

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Testamernt 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's why the superstraight stuff was so effective. It made a lot of them realize how ridiculous their arguments against it were.

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honk_honk_honk 7 points ago +7 / -0

Problem is we're reaching peak saturation for redpilling I believe - eventually you stop finding people willing to accept it over the long term.

Most former leftists I know voted Trump, some others were redpilled with the election fraud.

The rest had a redpill moment, then with the pandemic decided they didn't like the idea the elites hate us that much and decided to swallow the bluepill, they have gone full on leftist and TDS again. They live in fear of covid and wholeheartedly support marxist and globohomo endeavors.

You can never win them all over, even the founding fathers realized this with the loyalists.

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Heavy_Metal_Patriot 6 points ago +6 / -0

I am amazed that the same people who will only eat locally sourced vegan organic can't wait to shove an experimental vax into their bodies with no clue about the ingredients. They're also the same people who scoff at the idea of anyone buying anything from QVC or the Home Shopping channels, but they will buy ANY bullshit that's on the TV screens from leftard stations.

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honk_honk_honk 6 points ago +6 / -0

Cults are weird man.

It's no coincidence their leaders have been pushing westerners not to have kids, support mass immigration and become vegans - after all, why waste good meat on those you view as worthless tools.

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Friendly_B 4 points ago +4 / -0

Just wait until the "nobody eats meat anymore" wave happens.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Your description is accurate, but I'm not sure we've reached peak saturation yet.

There are millions of people who are still ignorant of just how nefarious these Tyrants are, and many of them willfully because they don't want to lose what they have. Now they're seeing their own bank accounts affected and they're noticing.

We haven't hit critical mass yet, but one giant reveal could do it. Maybe a state will overturn electors? Maybe Durham wakes up and makes an arrest? Maybe Biden continues to self-implode? There's some big truths left that can provide shocks.

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anon1011101 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't see how much longer they can keep this Biden charade up. Every public appearance is a disaster

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, but everyone's expecting the Biden regime to end in 3...2.....1.....

That's not shocking enough to wake up the masses. The media will spin him as a hero and Kamala will sing his praises as Saint Joe rides off into the sunset as a conquering hero. Many will buy that.

We need something that rips the cover off the whole thing.

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Carry_Your_Name 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yes, they have no real respect for the rule of law, or science, religion, sanctity of life, etc. They weaponize all of those against you.

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HeavyMetalPatriot 12 points ago +12 / -0

Based on how they don't clean their masks, I'm pretty sure that's already the case.

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Im_too_BASED 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yup.

Also remember that CIA Mockingbird cunts in the MSM are specifically chosen because they make blatant lies sound unquestionably true.

Their job isn't to inform. It's to deceive.

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thisisatestof2 15 points ago +15 / -0

It really boils down to the fact the left doesn’t have any core beliefs that define them, despite their claims that they do. They simply hop on the closest and most popular bandwagon of the moment without even thinking because that’s what all the friends are doing.

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BasedNtruth 5 points ago +5 / -0

Extremely accurate. They have no beliefs or morals anchoring them, they’ve been conditioned away

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thisisatestof2 6 points ago +6 / -0

I keep a few lefty friends around on Facebook. In particular, going back to the early stages of the Democrat primary selection process They had said, as a example, “I support Lizzie Warren because of X, Y and Z.”

Then she would drop out, and they would do the exact same thing for their next choice but say completely different reasons, and repeat that process at least a half a dozen times before they finally did the same thing for Biden.

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HanginChad 7 points ago +7 / -0

Free Tibet!

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War_Hamster 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's why we archive. To shove it in their faces when they flip flop because the mob changed direction.

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HeavenlyTrumpets 33 points ago +33 / -0

The vaccine is also magically great overnight as soon as POTUS (Trump) isn't in the White House.

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Zant 26 points ago +26 / -0

The Milgram experiment is all you need to know about controlling sheeple. 100% of the participants went all the way to "severe shock" and 65% gave a killing shock to participants for getting a question wrong because a lab coat told them to.

Add in the lab coat being so big hes on t.v. daily and all the social pressure and I think its not unlikely to see a 90% plus sheeple deathrate here with the plandemic.

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War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's insightful. I agree.

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CovfefeAnon 20 points ago +20 / -0

Follow the money. Big Pharma pays well to keep us sick.

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PermaHandshake 15 points ago +15 / -0

The left currently does the bidding of International Banking, Big Tech, Big Pharma and soon Big Agriculture (it's the next step). You think this is clown world? Wait until the left is doing the bidding of Bayer (previously Monsanto). The new named company will be enough for leftists to refuse to accept they're on Monsanto's side.

I can't wait. I'll just enjoy the end of western civilization as best I can in the meantime.

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Titan93 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is why calling fascist is accurate. "Lucrative merger between corporation and state." and "Everything inside the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state"

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PermaHandshake 11 points ago +11 / -0

Half right. If you read into Fascism, you'd understand the left are not fascists. They have taken a page out of the economic playbook of fascists but they don't adhere to much else in the doctrine.

In actuality, the modern left is a mix between Feudalism, Fascism, Communism and Capitalism. It essentially took the worst from all of them and put them together to be honest.

Trying to compare the modern left to historic ideologies can be useful but it also leads people astray. They are very much their own new political ideology that need to be stopped.

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War_Hamster 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is exactly correct.

They don't have a name yet for what this new "ism" is. It is unique, with so many factions all in on the game.

We can just call them Tyrants for simplicity's sake.

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Friendly_B 2 points ago +2 / -0

Satanism?

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

That works too.

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PermaHandshake 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well said and prior to the 1800s, they would have simply been called tyrants.

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War_Hamster 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's almost as if they created these "isms" to divide and confuse us.

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Skogin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting to know how Pragmatism started as a proper Philosophy, widely promoteted by William James. The current usage of the term “pragmatic” is inverts the logic, but the meaning is close enough.

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Possibly because you were taught rationalism?

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Titan93 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good take, completely agree. I get tired of the words, just want people to understand how much they have in common with the fascists

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PermaHandshake 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's fair but I think it's important for conservatives to realize how much they actually have in common with fascists also. The left doesn't vilify fascism as much as it does because they themselves are fascist. Antifa didn't start as a military wing of the communists because communism and fascism were the same thing (a conclusion right-wingers like to draw). There are significant differences.

One way to look at it is that Fascists understand natural law and attempt to use authoritarian means of the government to create a social structure that adheres to natural law. Communists on the other hand reject natural law and attempt to use authoritarian means to create an outcome that goes against natural law. Right-wingers of the type who consider themselves MAGA tend to be classical liberals or libertarians who generally speaking wish to create a society that follows natural law by having as little government as possible except to counter gross inequities (that often have a detrimental impact on society as a whole), thus the outcome will mimic natural law since little influence besides nature exists. Thus to an outsider, fascism and libertarians look similar in outcome, even if they are very different in liberty from government.

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Titan93 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't know, at a certain point it seems like a fetish. Fascists didn't want to conform to natural law, as we do. They literally desired to create a "new man", totally loyal and obedient to the state, willing to do anything. Total domination and loyalty. They were fine with lieing to and manipulating their people to unite them. That's not natural.

However they had more traditional views on sexuality and family than the filthy communists. That's basically where it ends. They're collectivists without aspiring to holiness, hence it leads to the same place as the communists.

There are so many differences between us and the nazis, not the least of which is we are individualists, and they were diehard collectivists (demanding loyalty to the state over oneself or family)

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Friendly_B 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fascism is a form of collectivism. It is an alternative end goal opposite Communism but either can grow out of a Socialism base.

Giovanni Gentile based Fascism on his desire to implement his view of Marxism. Gentile was a Marxist.

Mussolini and Franklin Delano Roosevelt considered each other kindred spirits. JFK was a gigantic fan of Hitler and praised Nazism. It was only after the Holocaust came to light publicly that Leftist professors and intellectuals began the work of distancing themselves from Fascism.

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PermaHandshake 0 points ago +2 / -2

This is why I hate this... If you talk to a fascist, the left has nothing in common with fascism. If you talk to a libertarian, the left and fascists are exactly the same.

It depends entirely on the perspective. I was trying to be balanced. The other guy is wrong about fascism but I wasn't going to get into it. Fascism is not collectivist. It's a well-balanced mixture of collectivism and individualism. The amount of control in a fascist State was actually much less than people realize but of course Nazi Germany and Italy during the war exhibited a lot more control, because even America and more liberal societies do in times of war.

Anyway, we could discuss it all night but to say the left and fascism have nothing in common is wrong from the perspective of a libertarian. Remember, libertarians only care about freedom from government and a fascist State is one that does exude much more government influence on people than modern America. Modern China for example is much closer to fascism than it is communism or the left and we can see how much control its government has compared to here.

I agree with your conclusion though. I personally have more in common with fascism than the left and here I am in MAGA territory.

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Friendly_B 1 point ago +1 / -0

The core of Fascism is collectivism. This was central to both Mussolini and Hitler. It only allows for a select few cronies to benefit under the state and they are controlled by the state. The Communist wants the factories to be run by the worker. The Fascist wants to let his friend who already knows how to run it do the work but not have a say in the direction of the work.

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randomusers239874 1 point ago +2 / -1

Fascism cuts both ways though. For example, most people here think that big tech should not be able to censor people, and want the government to step in and make it illegal. That's technically fascism; it's definitely not libertarianism. Of course they do all these mental gymnastics to try and justify it ("muh public square!") but it's fascism none the less. So, I say, we embrace fascism, and just make sure we're the ones that benefit from it.

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Titan93 3 points ago +3 / -0

Making and enforcing just laws isn't fascist. Big tech shapes the worldview of billions of people, it's unjust to let them lie and manipulate billions under the guys of "fact-checking.

Its not libertarianism either. Libertarianism is the billionaire and big corporations wet dream, but does nothing to maintain a healthy and strong nation.

What you and I desire is just conservatism. Willing to make and enforce wise and just laws for the benefit of the fabric of our people; in the face of a society and culture hellbent on degenerating and destroying itself. We're far right in the sense that we've lost so damn much ground in the last 40 years that now we're paying for the military to self mutilate, the arbiters of narrative are kool-aid haired degenerates that hate our country, and the our wealthy elite have more interest Chinese cash than helping their fellow citizens.

Fascism is as far from 1776 as 1776 was from bowing to a far away tyrant.

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Friendly_B 1 point ago +1 / -0

kool-aid haired degenerates

Yeah I guess I thought this would be a passing fad but nooooope.

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Carry_Your_Name 3 points ago +3 / -0

Leftism is a CULT, that's the closest comparison you can get, also the only approach to understand why they're so out of touch with reality.

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Amaroq64 5 points ago +5 / -0

The real swapping of the political parties.

The Republicans were the party of big business and the Democrats were the party of the little guy, lol. Wtf.

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PermaHandshake 8 points ago +8 / -0

Sike, they both were always the party of big business. Republicans always pretended they wanted small government and promoted small business then made a bunch of backroom deals and regulations that benefited big business. Democrats always pretended they cared about the people then expanded government and gave away all the money to big businesses.

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NoCoupForYou 9 points ago +9 / -0

Just like they went from whinging about Big Media to celebrating it.

Just like they went from "Question Authority" Bumperstickers to "Trust the Experts. Believe the Science"

Just like they went from "I am woman, hear me roar" to "He's a woman, see him score."

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Skogin 2 points ago +2 / -0

These are meme worthy.

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Titan93 8 points ago +8 / -0

Weaponized mental disabilities

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MAGA1775 7 points ago +7 / -0

Liberals have no real values or positions. They just blindly follow whatever the trend is and whatever the media tells them how to think.

I also saw them cheer when Biden immediately revoked Trump's drug price EO because Biden is a shill for Big Pharma and his cabinet is stacked with Big Pharma execs. Insulin spiked from around $100/month to $1,000/month for families that need insulin.

FYI - they also support big corporations and monopolies now. Something they claimed to be against several years ago. They are the party of Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big Corporations.

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Trumpchoochoo 7 points ago +7 / -0

What I don't get is the same people screaming about Trump rushing an untested vaccine are the same ones in the front of the line demanded everyone take it.

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libsarelocusts 1 point ago +1 / -0

ive ran into that multiple times

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MagaDevildog2 6 points ago +6 / -0

Mah boi Shkreli did nothing wrong! #Freemahboi

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aKekabove 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hilary Clinton disagrees with this statement

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EagleOverTriumph 6 points ago +6 / -0

"we need """free""" medical care to help out the poor Americans" Biden ends the price cut on Insulin "crickets"

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residue69 3 points ago +3 / -0

How Race and Ethnicity Affect Diabetes Prevalence, Management, and Complications

Black, Indigenous, Hispanic, and Asian individuals, and people of all non-white racial and ethnic groups are more likely to have diabetes and diabetes-related health complications than their white peers.

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MAGAsJustBegun 5 points ago +5 / -0

Liberals of the 2000s would've agreed with us on many things.

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Mtnlion667 10 points ago +10 / -0

I was a liberal of the 90s and early 2000s. You're absolutely correct. In fact, very few of my ideologies have changed yet I can't even begin to relate to today's left.

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PermaHandshake 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember being liberal in the mid 2000s and trying to explain to people how liberal wasn't the same as "regressive leftist". I swear I coined that term too but apparently a few other people had started using it at the time. It was just so natural. Here were these self-described "liberals" that weren't actually liberal at all and whose values were "backwards" from a "true" liberal's perspective.

The conservatives at the time didn't help things because conservatives started calling all "left-wing" people "liberals", even though ironically, most conservatives are actually classical liberals.

Today, I'm not really any label and am sort of Christian Theocratic, Capitalistic and Nationalistic whatever that is. Think conservative 150 years ago.

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randomusers239874 2 points ago +2 / -0

Technically, he did do something wrong, but they threw the book at him when anyone else would h ave gotten a few months. You can't shuffle investor money around, even if they don't end up losing any. That is illegal as hell, and he should have known better. If you're going to fuck with the system, you'd better make sure you're clean, like Trump did.

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Populist_Leader 5 points ago +5 / -0

Normies do not think for themselves. The zombie apocalypse is upon us but it’s not in the way I imagined it

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masshole3 5 points ago +5 / -0

Liberals are like monkeys: short attention spans, no working long term memory, and flinging their feces at whatever gets them riled up...

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iSignedUpForThis 4 points ago +4 / -0

They probably all have issues with one or both of their parents so they latch on to whichever authority figure provides them with the most comfort and acceptance.

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libsarelocusts 4 points ago +4 / -0

had a lib today (who complains everything is to expensive) say well if we raise food workers to 15 an hour we can just double everyone elses salary to... someone said umm thats called inflation and would just raise everything else... jis reply no it wont...... palm to face

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Joesf23 3 points ago +3 / -0

They hate cheap solutions to medical problems, love higher healthcare costs, love middle east wars, inflation, high unemployment, high crime...literally hell. They want hell.

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MAGA1775 4 points ago +4 / -0

Liberal voters really have no values or positions. They support power and only power, and whatever the mainstream media tells them to think.

Several years ago their positions were totally different.

They hated overseas wars. Now they love overseas wars.

They hated Big Pharma. Now they love Big Pharma.

They hated big corporations and monopolies. Now they love big corporations and monopolies (since those big corporations now pander to all the social justice causes).

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aKekabove 3 points ago +3 / -0

We'll they are satanist.......soooooo

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RexCollumSilvarum 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm an Afterberner and still visit Bernie communities sometimes. When Trump signed several executive orders lowering medicine prices and making pricing more transparent, to their credit they were pretty happy about it.

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FlamingButBased [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

See as misguided and influenced by commie propaganda as they are, Bernie Bros detest the system as much as we do. I never took Bernie folks to be the ones glued to CNN all day - just glued to Tiktok and Reddit.

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jiminycricket1941 3 points ago +3 / -0

How else are they going to get their sex change drugs.

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Latin_Patriot_MAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Leftist assholes motherfuckers don't think, they've never used their brains, they're just sheep who follow the walk of their owners who control the narrative

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wrongkindofimmigrant 2 points ago +2 / -0

FREE SHKRELI!!!

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EdwardTeller 2 points ago +2 / -0

Unfortunately, I'm finding "conservatives" are just as big of pussies as any liberal. Maybe more so. At least libs are willing to fight.

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JackWoods 2 points ago +2 / -0

The social engineering is working perfectly!

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Friendly_B 2 points ago +2 / -0

Demonic possession can masquerade as mental illness.

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NoMoreMao 2 points ago +2 / -0

They aren’t liberals. They’re communists.

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Beer-_-Belly 2 points ago +2 / -0

It is so strange.

I wonder if they would all be jumping in line if Trump was still president.

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CJBarnacle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Liberals never had any real principles. They just want to be part of any movement that will give them the most attention and virtue signalling points.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Leftists are morally and intellectually bankrupt, only caring about their shitty ideology.

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CJBarnacle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Women and fags are the most easy people to emotionally manipulate by mass media, and that makes up 90% of the liberal base.

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you-know-im-right 1 point ago +1 / -0

You’ll never defeat the left with logic or by pointing out their hypocrisy

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Truthdose 1 point ago +1 / -0

Propaganda and Orange Man Bad

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BurtMcGirt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Being against big pharma was actually something I had in common with the left, until they changed their position. Just like freedom of speech, the border, importing cheap labor, endless war, and illegal search and seizure. Basically, everything I agreed with them on, they have done a complete 180 on.

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bck- 1 point ago +1 / -0

Logic never mattered to liberals.

The same psychos yelling at people to put masks on are the same ones who take a hit of their vape pen, or cigarette in between talks of calling COVID dangerous

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Basard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gotta wake em up.... it's hard to see, but they aren't ALL that stupid.

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libsarelocusts 1 point ago +1 / -0

yes they really are

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swimmingguy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly. 0 rational thinking. People are literally sheep

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DEPORT_DOOMERS 1 point ago +1 / -0

The funniest thing is they have the audacity to call us Nazis when nazi stands for national socialist lmao