This is why calling fascist is accurate. "Lucrative merger between corporation and state." and "Everything inside the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state"
Half right. If you read into Fascism, you'd understand the left are not fascists. They have taken a page out of the economic playbook of fascists but they don't adhere to much else in the doctrine.
In actuality, the modern left is a mix between Feudalism, Fascism, Communism and Capitalism. It essentially took the worst from all of them and put them together to be honest.
Trying to compare the modern left to historic ideologies can be useful but it also leads people astray. They are very much their own new political ideology that need to be stopped.
That's fair but I think it's important for conservatives to realize how much they actually have in common with fascists also. The left doesn't vilify fascism as much as it does because they themselves are fascist. Antifa didn't start as a military wing of the communists because communism and fascism were the same thing (a conclusion right-wingers like to draw). There are significant differences.
One way to look at it is that Fascists understand natural law and attempt to use authoritarian means of the government to create a social structure that adheres to natural law. Communists on the other hand reject natural law and attempt to use authoritarian means to create an outcome that goes against natural law. Right-wingers of the type who consider themselves MAGA tend to be classical liberals or libertarians who generally speaking wish to create a society that follows natural law by having as little government as possible except to counter gross inequities (that often have a detrimental impact on society as a whole), thus the outcome will mimic natural law since little influence besides nature exists. Thus to an outsider, fascism and libertarians look similar in outcome, even if they are very different in liberty from government.
I don't know, at a certain point it seems like a fetish. Fascists didn't want to conform to natural law, as we do. They literally desired to create a "new man", totally loyal and obedient to the state, willing to do anything. Total domination and loyalty. They were fine with lieing to and manipulating their people to unite them. That's not natural.
However they had more traditional views on sexuality and family than the filthy communists. That's basically where it ends. They're collectivists without aspiring to holiness, hence it leads to the same place as the communists.
There are so many differences between us and the nazis, not the least of which is we are individualists, and they were diehard collectivists (demanding loyalty to the state over oneself or family)
Fascism cuts both ways though. For example, most people here think that big tech should not be able to censor people, and want the government to step in and make it illegal. That's technically fascism; it's definitely not libertarianism. Of course they do all these mental gymnastics to try and justify it ("muh public square!") but it's fascism none the less. So, I say, we embrace fascism, and just make sure we're the ones that benefit from it.
Making and enforcing just laws isn't fascist. Big tech shapes the worldview of billions of people, it's unjust to let them lie and manipulate billions under the guys of "fact-checking.
Its not libertarianism either. Libertarianism is the billionaire and big corporations wet dream, but does nothing to maintain a healthy and strong nation.
What you and I desire is just conservatism. Willing to make and enforce wise and just laws for the benefit of the fabric of our people; in the face of a society and culture hellbent on degenerating and destroying itself. We're far right in the sense that we've lost so damn much ground in the last 40 years that now we're paying for the military to self mutilate, the arbiters of narrative are kool-aid haired degenerates that hate our country, and the our wealthy elite have more interest Chinese cash than helping their fellow citizens.
Fascism is as far from 1776 as 1776 was from bowing to a far away tyrant.
This is why calling fascist is accurate. "Lucrative merger between corporation and state." and "Everything inside the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state"
Half right. If you read into Fascism, you'd understand the left are not fascists. They have taken a page out of the economic playbook of fascists but they don't adhere to much else in the doctrine.
In actuality, the modern left is a mix between Feudalism, Fascism, Communism and Capitalism. It essentially took the worst from all of them and put them together to be honest.
Trying to compare the modern left to historic ideologies can be useful but it also leads people astray. They are very much their own new political ideology that need to be stopped.
This is exactly correct.
They don't have a name yet for what this new "ism" is. It is unique, with so many factions all in on the game.
We can just call them Tyrants for simplicity's sake.
Satanism?
That works too.
Well said and prior to the 1800s, they would have simply been called tyrants.
It's almost as if they created these "isms" to divide and confuse us.
Good take, completely agree. I get tired of the words, just want people to understand how much they have in common with the fascists
That's fair but I think it's important for conservatives to realize how much they actually have in common with fascists also. The left doesn't vilify fascism as much as it does because they themselves are fascist. Antifa didn't start as a military wing of the communists because communism and fascism were the same thing (a conclusion right-wingers like to draw). There are significant differences.
One way to look at it is that Fascists understand natural law and attempt to use authoritarian means of the government to create a social structure that adheres to natural law. Communists on the other hand reject natural law and attempt to use authoritarian means to create an outcome that goes against natural law. Right-wingers of the type who consider themselves MAGA tend to be classical liberals or libertarians who generally speaking wish to create a society that follows natural law by having as little government as possible except to counter gross inequities (that often have a detrimental impact on society as a whole), thus the outcome will mimic natural law since little influence besides nature exists. Thus to an outsider, fascism and libertarians look similar in outcome, even if they are very different in liberty from government.
I don't know, at a certain point it seems like a fetish. Fascists didn't want to conform to natural law, as we do. They literally desired to create a "new man", totally loyal and obedient to the state, willing to do anything. Total domination and loyalty. They were fine with lieing to and manipulating their people to unite them. That's not natural.
However they had more traditional views on sexuality and family than the filthy communists. That's basically where it ends. They're collectivists without aspiring to holiness, hence it leads to the same place as the communists.
There are so many differences between us and the nazis, not the least of which is we are individualists, and they were diehard collectivists (demanding loyalty to the state over oneself or family)
Fascism cuts both ways though. For example, most people here think that big tech should not be able to censor people, and want the government to step in and make it illegal. That's technically fascism; it's definitely not libertarianism. Of course they do all these mental gymnastics to try and justify it ("muh public square!") but it's fascism none the less. So, I say, we embrace fascism, and just make sure we're the ones that benefit from it.
Making and enforcing just laws isn't fascist. Big tech shapes the worldview of billions of people, it's unjust to let them lie and manipulate billions under the guys of "fact-checking.
Its not libertarianism either. Libertarianism is the billionaire and big corporations wet dream, but does nothing to maintain a healthy and strong nation.
What you and I desire is just conservatism. Willing to make and enforce wise and just laws for the benefit of the fabric of our people; in the face of a society and culture hellbent on degenerating and destroying itself. We're far right in the sense that we've lost so damn much ground in the last 40 years that now we're paying for the military to self mutilate, the arbiters of narrative are kool-aid haired degenerates that hate our country, and the our wealthy elite have more interest Chinese cash than helping their fellow citizens.
Fascism is as far from 1776 as 1776 was from bowing to a far away tyrant.
Leftism is a CULT, that's the closest comparison you can get, also the only approach to understand why they're so out of touch with reality.