I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SAY THAT PROBABLY YOU ARE WITHIN THE MORE THAN 99% OF PEOPLE WHO SHIT NORMALLY! ITS REALLY NOT HARD MATH! PLENTY OF INFORMATION TO SAY PROBABLY WHICH MERELY IMPLIES MORE THAN 50% CHANCE... MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS LITTLE VARIATION IN THE AMOUNT OF SHITS MEN TAKE — AS OPPOSED TO HISTORICAL BIOGRAPHIES THEY’VE AUTHORED!
Comparing the number of books Brands has written on American History to others, he is one of the most prolific. I’m just saying a fact about the guy. Happen to disagree with him on a lot (more now that I found that article). But I respect the fact that his work is well researched, even if his opinions are not as thoroughly crafted (in my view). In fact it would be hard to be that prolific in aggregation and still maintain good interpretive skills. It would also be hard to be that prolific in historical literature without having some sort of merit to one’s output.
Your comment history is full of personal attacks where you seem to skip the logic of the other person’s post and launch into your own rude tirade full of immature insults which don’t really seem to land the way you intend them to. Maybe lay off the soy for a while? (Disclaimer: clearly I am aware that you may not consume soy, which os part of why I say maybe, and I think it is a good catch all figurative phrase to get my point across, which is that unprovoked personal attacks from behind a keyboard are emasculating)
Every state in the confederacy is a state in the United States. So while you say “America First”, you are telling a great many people with a lot of history whose relatives fought and died for their own freedom from tyranny to go fuck themselves.
Boiling down the civil war merely to a race issue is much of what has our country so divided today, and what has enabled these recent frauds and moral decay to take place. Nearly everything the evil democrats do today is blamed on the invisible specter of “racism”, not the least of which is the smearing of the south and the confederacy as an uniquely racist entity. It was not.
The battle flag was co-opted by racist Dixiecrats in opposition to civil rights legislation... surely you are aware of this (I mean that not sarcastically, I think that probably you do know it).
Many people did cling to their ways in the south. Habits die hard!
But it must be remembered, the Union did not fight to banish or destroy the south. It fought to keep them!
"for their own freedom..." To own slaves, dumbass. That's not a "freedom" you get to have. Zero respect for anyone who fought for that. Fuck 'em.
And I didn't "boil it down to merely a race issue;" it was SLAVERY, dumbass. Not "race." I merely pointed out the truth, which so many pathetic southerners seem committed to cognitive dissonance about: they fought to preserve slavery and were willing to end the U.S. over it. REGARDLESS of whether you think that's true or not, there's NO QUESTION that THAT flag is the Confederate Battle Flag, was CREATED as the Confederate Battle Flag, and that the Confederacy surrendered. I.e., the perfectly fucking obvious: THAT flag is the symbol of an ENEMY of the U.S. and a vanquished foe. You want to carry it at a reenactment? Great. You want to put it in a history museum? Also great. You want to wear/display it to "honor" it? Fuck you - it's no better and, in fact, worse than the people who fly/wear the flags of other countries (unless they're historical countries that were ALSO our enemies) - it represents a failure to embrace the ideological premise upon which the United States is based. Namely, that we are unified not by our race, or our religion, or even our geography, but by our ideals. It's been almost 160 years; there's nobody alive now who was alive in the Civil War. They don't have "habits," they have adopted culture. And, lastly, the Union fought to preserve the U.S., not to "keep" the South; their surrender meant they were supposed to reconcile with being American, first, not "southern" IN America. There is no room for divided loyalty; divided loyalty produces factionalism and weakness.
They weren't "willing to end the US", they just wanted to leave the abuses of the national government behind them. But the north couldn't let that happen because they relied on them for many strategic and economic reasons.
You are so wrong on so many points. Seriously, you should read about history. You are way off in many ways. And you show so little compassion for people. There wasn't a nation in the world who denounced slavery at the get go until very recently. And there are more slaves today than ever before in history. One great example is at the border today. And this strong national government you talk of which shall tolerate no factionalism has done such a great job of defending that with the current administration, right?
People talk about slavery like it was always known to be this unconscionable, unforgivable evil. And yet, the war wasn't fought by Union to annihilate all the slave traders... it was fought to keep the seceding states under one united country. Out of this move have arisen many of the political problems that we are dealing with today.
For fuck's sake; I gave you the link; read Jefferson Davis' OWN statement. Then try to tell me again how you know better than the President of the Fucking Confederate States what his motivation was.
Again, I HAVE read history. Extensively. Not a fucking article by a guy trying to parlay it into a criticism of Trump over tariffs, but real, actual scholars judged on the QUALITY of their work, not the quantity. "He's prolific!" Well, jumping off a cliff is "efficient," but that's not the best metric to asses alternatives to descend.
You appear to be a fucking idiot, repeatedly making claims like "you show so little compassion for people" (seriously; WHO have I talked about other other than people clinging to that fucking flag and the delusion that the civil war was about anything more than it was about slavery, and the south's desire to sustain and propagate it?).
"There wasn't a nation in the world who denounced slavery at the get go until very recently." Uh, wut? In what retard-land is that a coherent fucking sentence? Jefferson tried to put an anti-slavery statement into the Declaration of Independence, almost 90 years before the Civil War. They KNEW it was wrong. I'm not blaming the U.S. for having slavery; it was here before the U.S. was formed. It persisted, world-wide, after the U.S. was formed. But, unlike other countries, it was in conflict with our stated and founding values regarding the rights of man. And it's delusion to suggest otherwise.
And, what EXACTLY is your fucking point, jumping from the 1860s and the south's motivation to "the current administration?" What kind of fucking retard-logic is that? "Duhhhh - Biden, so Rebel Flag!!!!" I mean, seriously: what the fuck?
"People talk about slavery like it was always known to be this unconscionable, unforgivable evil. And yet, the war wasn't fought by Union to annihilate all the slave traders... it was fought to keep the seceding states under one united country. Out of this move have arisen many of the political problems that we are dealing with today."
WHAT PEOPLE, retard? WHAT "PEOPLE" are those? They CERTAINLY knew in 1776! "We hold these truths to be self-evident" is pretty fucking clear! And, yet a-fucking-gain: THE WAR WAS FOUGHT BECAUSE THE SOUTH STARTED THE FUCKING WAR (Lincoln wins, SC legislature passes Ordinance of Secession, SC starts seizing military bases, then MS, FL, AL, GA, and LA join them, fires on Ft. Sumter. Period, end of story.). AND WHY DID THEY START THE FUCKING WAR, FOR FUCK'S SAKE? It's RIGHT FUCKING HERE(http://www.historianstevecampbell.com/uploads/4/4/6/5/44657359/south_carolina_ordinance_of_secession_1860.pdf), you IGNORANT FUCK. Stop telling ME to learn history and read the fucking original sources; see if you can find the fucking word "tax" or "taxes" or "taxation" in it. Good luck. But you'll find a whole BUNCH of "slave," and "slavery" in it. Because THAT is why they went to war. You want it to be more nuanced. You NEED it to be more nuanced. But it ISN'T more nuanced. Wealthy southern landowners and slaveholders controlled the political power in the south and they didn't want to give up slaves. Period. End of fucking story. Sorry: they were assholes. They got a lot of people killed. But again, more to the point, THEY FUCKING LOST. THAT flag is the flag of fucking traitors and the flag of a vanquished foe, it has no business on any staff in this country and if it was on fire, I wouldn't piss on it to put it out.
Your cognitive dissonance is painful, and a waste of my time. Read the original sources. You're ignorant and you're adamant about it.
I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SAY THAT PROBABLY YOU ARE WITHIN THE MORE THAN 99% OF PEOPLE WHO SHIT NORMALLY! ITS REALLY NOT HARD MATH! PLENTY OF INFORMATION TO SAY PROBABLY WHICH MERELY IMPLIES MORE THAN 50% CHANCE... MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS LITTLE VARIATION IN THE AMOUNT OF SHITS MEN TAKE — AS OPPOSED TO HISTORICAL BIOGRAPHIES THEY’VE AUTHORED!
Comparing the number of books Brands has written on American History to others, he is one of the most prolific. I’m just saying a fact about the guy. Happen to disagree with him on a lot (more now that I found that article). But I respect the fact that his work is well researched, even if his opinions are not as thoroughly crafted (in my view). In fact it would be hard to be that prolific in aggregation and still maintain good interpretive skills. It would also be hard to be that prolific in historical literature without having some sort of merit to one’s output.
Your comment history is full of personal attacks where you seem to skip the logic of the other person’s post and launch into your own rude tirade full of immature insults which don’t really seem to land the way you intend them to. Maybe lay off the soy for a while? (Disclaimer: clearly I am aware that you may not consume soy, which os part of why I say maybe, and I think it is a good catch all figurative phrase to get my point across, which is that unprovoked personal attacks from behind a keyboard are emasculating)
Every state in the confederacy is a state in the United States. So while you say “America First”, you are telling a great many people with a lot of history whose relatives fought and died for their own freedom from tyranny to go fuck themselves.
Boiling down the civil war merely to a race issue is much of what has our country so divided today, and what has enabled these recent frauds and moral decay to take place. Nearly everything the evil democrats do today is blamed on the invisible specter of “racism”, not the least of which is the smearing of the south and the confederacy as an uniquely racist entity. It was not.
The battle flag was co-opted by racist Dixiecrats in opposition to civil rights legislation... surely you are aware of this (I mean that not sarcastically, I think that probably you do know it).
Many people did cling to their ways in the south. Habits die hard!
But it must be remembered, the Union did not fight to banish or destroy the south. It fought to keep them!
"for their own freedom..." To own slaves, dumbass. That's not a "freedom" you get to have. Zero respect for anyone who fought for that. Fuck 'em.
And I didn't "boil it down to merely a race issue;" it was SLAVERY, dumbass. Not "race." I merely pointed out the truth, which so many pathetic southerners seem committed to cognitive dissonance about: they fought to preserve slavery and were willing to end the U.S. over it. REGARDLESS of whether you think that's true or not, there's NO QUESTION that THAT flag is the Confederate Battle Flag, was CREATED as the Confederate Battle Flag, and that the Confederacy surrendered. I.e., the perfectly fucking obvious: THAT flag is the symbol of an ENEMY of the U.S. and a vanquished foe. You want to carry it at a reenactment? Great. You want to put it in a history museum? Also great. You want to wear/display it to "honor" it? Fuck you - it's no better and, in fact, worse than the people who fly/wear the flags of other countries (unless they're historical countries that were ALSO our enemies) - it represents a failure to embrace the ideological premise upon which the United States is based. Namely, that we are unified not by our race, or our religion, or even our geography, but by our ideals. It's been almost 160 years; there's nobody alive now who was alive in the Civil War. They don't have "habits," they have adopted culture. And, lastly, the Union fought to preserve the U.S., not to "keep" the South; their surrender meant they were supposed to reconcile with being American, first, not "southern" IN America. There is no room for divided loyalty; divided loyalty produces factionalism and weakness.
They weren't "willing to end the US", they just wanted to leave the abuses of the national government behind them. But the north couldn't let that happen because they relied on them for many strategic and economic reasons.
You are so wrong on so many points. Seriously, you should read about history. You are way off in many ways. And you show so little compassion for people. There wasn't a nation in the world who denounced slavery at the get go until very recently. And there are more slaves today than ever before in history. One great example is at the border today. And this strong national government you talk of which shall tolerate no factionalism has done such a great job of defending that with the current administration, right?
People talk about slavery like it was always known to be this unconscionable, unforgivable evil. And yet, the war wasn't fought by Union to annihilate all the slave traders... it was fought to keep the seceding states under one united country. Out of this move have arisen many of the political problems that we are dealing with today.
For fuck's sake; I gave you the link; read Jefferson Davis' OWN statement. Then try to tell me again how you know better than the President of the Fucking Confederate States what his motivation was.
Again, I HAVE read history. Extensively. Not a fucking article by a guy trying to parlay it into a criticism of Trump over tariffs, but real, actual scholars judged on the QUALITY of their work, not the quantity. "He's prolific!" Well, jumping off a cliff is "efficient," but that's not the best metric to asses alternatives to descend.
You appear to be a fucking idiot, repeatedly making claims like "you show so little compassion for people" (seriously; WHO have I talked about other other than people clinging to that fucking flag and the delusion that the civil war was about anything more than it was about slavery, and the south's desire to sustain and propagate it?).
"There wasn't a nation in the world who denounced slavery at the get go until very recently." Uh, wut? In what retard-land is that a coherent fucking sentence? Jefferson tried to put an anti-slavery statement into the Declaration of Independence, almost 90 years before the Civil War. They KNEW it was wrong. I'm not blaming the U.S. for having slavery; it was here before the U.S. was formed. It persisted, world-wide, after the U.S. was formed. But, unlike other countries, it was in conflict with our stated and founding values regarding the rights of man. And it's delusion to suggest otherwise.
And, what EXACTLY is your fucking point, jumping from the 1860s and the south's motivation to "the current administration?" What kind of fucking retard-logic is that? "Duhhhh - Biden, so Rebel Flag!!!!" I mean, seriously: what the fuck?
"People talk about slavery like it was always known to be this unconscionable, unforgivable evil. And yet, the war wasn't fought by Union to annihilate all the slave traders... it was fought to keep the seceding states under one united country. Out of this move have arisen many of the political problems that we are dealing with today."
WHAT PEOPLE, retard? WHAT "PEOPLE" are those? They CERTAINLY knew in 1776! "We hold these truths to be self-evident" is pretty fucking clear! And, yet a-fucking-gain: THE WAR WAS FOUGHT BECAUSE THE SOUTH STARTED THE FUCKING WAR (Lincoln wins, SC legislature passes Ordinance of Secession, SC starts seizing military bases, then MS, FL, AL, GA, and LA join them, fires on Ft. Sumter. Period, end of story.). AND WHY DID THEY START THE FUCKING WAR, FOR FUCK'S SAKE? It's RIGHT FUCKING HERE(http://www.historianstevecampbell.com/uploads/4/4/6/5/44657359/south_carolina_ordinance_of_secession_1860.pdf), you IGNORANT FUCK. Stop telling ME to learn history and read the fucking original sources; see if you can find the fucking word "tax" or "taxes" or "taxation" in it. Good luck. But you'll find a whole BUNCH of "slave," and "slavery" in it. Because THAT is why they went to war. You want it to be more nuanced. You NEED it to be more nuanced. But it ISN'T more nuanced. Wealthy southern landowners and slaveholders controlled the political power in the south and they didn't want to give up slaves. Period. End of fucking story. Sorry: they were assholes. They got a lot of people killed. But again, more to the point, THEY FUCKING LOST. THAT flag is the flag of fucking traitors and the flag of a vanquished foe, it has no business on any staff in this country and if it was on fire, I wouldn't piss on it to put it out.
Your cognitive dissonance is painful, and a waste of my time. Read the original sources. You're ignorant and you're adamant about it.