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tom_machine 1 point ago +1 / -0

I skimmed through your bullshit. All men are created equal was about the monarchy. The men who wrote that owned slaves.

I don't need it to be nuanced or not. You need to oversimplify it so your hyper emotional pea brain can understand it. It's a shame you've let your hatred of other men get in the way of your understanding of history.

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RatioInvictus 0 points ago +1 / -1

LOL. My "pea brain?" I'm in the 150s, you fucking moron, and "skimming" seems like a charitable description of your abilities.

"All men are created equal" was about John Locke, FROM John Locke's Second Treatise, repeated in the Declaration authored by Jefferson and edited by the committee of five, and about Locke's expressed theory of natural rights. The monarchy:subject dynamic was ONE application of the theory of natural rights, not either its origin or terminus, and of those men, which neither disavowed nor spoke, nor worked against slavery, having concluded it was immoral?

I'm oversimplifying FOR YOU, and I have no "hatred of other men," but I can't fucking stand bullies, frauds, and idiots, which turns out to comprise a not-insignificant portion of the population, present company included.

Again, just to be clear: fuck that flag and anyone who honors it, and especially anyone who engages is panty-pissing apologia about what that flag represented or the flagbearers engaged in war for.

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tom_machine 1 point ago +1 / -0

You’re welcome for taking the time to interpret that chicken scratch of a second paragraph, genius boy.

If all it took to found a country was five moral men drafting a letter to the king, then you’d be right in arguing that the USA had condemned slavery since its birth. You’d have to also concede that every bum on the corner could start one with his drinking buddies.

The nation of which we speak is and was made up of more than five men. At no point did these five men, or their contemporaries, moral and just as they be, find in their lifetimes the courage, conviction, or muster, to cast out all slavers from the nation they had all built together of their own hard fought blood sweat and tears.

You aren’t oversimplifying for me. You are oversimplifying a diverse nation of people to fit inside your own narrow views of what right and wrong are.

You’ll have to forgive me for not understanding the difference between hatred and “can’t fucking stand”. I must need a few more IQ points for that one. By the way just so you have a bit more perspective (which I’ve found to be tremendously more valuable than IQ points, YMMV) my father tests above 160. He has a PhD in economics, votes third party, and stocks shelves in a grocery store.

Here is a short film having to do with the topic of prejudice and the battle flag. I hope you like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32NqTLcAaIM