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Thunderbolt45 -4 points ago +7 / -11

He should have made that more clear then. He did say to go peacefully, but that was only after he promoted his "will be wild" rally for a month. He had everyone amped for something big to happen, and then Pence announced his true intentions and SHTF. Trump is NOT responsible for those people's actions, but I think he owes it to them to fight for them and help get them released.

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ShinAkuma 2 points ago +4 / -2

Trump was Law and Order pro law enforcement his entire Presidency. Add to that anti-war. If people were "unclear" on what Trump stood for I suspect that is their own fault.

I think alot of it had to do with shills and insurgents trying to start a ruble with Trump supporters as the fall guys, but sadly there was still some MAGA folks who expected to go out blazing.....with no guns for some bizarre reason.

Look I will be the first to say Trump needed to do more to stop the steal, but I also never expected him to rely on the rank and file MAGA to be his standing army. That's lunacy.

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Thunderbolt45 -3 points ago +2 / -5

"Will be wild" and Pence's last minute tweet. Those were the kindling and the spark for what happened. I have no doubt Antifa poured gasoline on the situation, but Trump created the scenario in which Antifa had anything to even pour gasoline on. He owes any patriot sitting in jail.

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ShinAkuma 2 points ago +4 / -2

No. Fucking NO!

Stop with this bullshit. You had a fever dream about storming the Senate or some shit. Thought that Trump, the most peaceful and pro law President of my lifetime, was suddenly about to betray everything he stood for by enlisting A BUNCH OF UNARMED MAGA to save the election?

Absolute fucking nonsense.