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PermaHandshake 21 points ago +25 / -4

I was thinking more like turning us into Nazi Germany not Rwanda. There is 1 other solution but conservatives aren't prepared for this. The founder of Gab is trying to go this route. Completely and 100% disengage with the society. Create a society within a society, like the Amish. Go full culture war. Find a mate, have 8 kids, home-school, go to church, promote your moral values to your children, don't let them rot their brain on social media, hollywood films and in academic institutions. Teach your children of the culture war going on and their place in the war. Teach them why sexual liberation, LGBTQ, feminism, consumerism, globalism etc... is all used to control them and keep them acting as indentured servants that never truly gain happiness. Buy your own land, create your own neighborhoods, create your own businesses and only use the businesses owned and operated by your group of people. 100% completed detach and strengthen your culture through its children and demographics.

That is the ONLY and I mean ONLY other option. It's literally WAR through violent means or CULTURE WAR as I described. The third option, which unfortunately many conservatives are choosing, is bending the knee toward the new social culture at the speed limit while pretending you have any dignity and honor left.

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War_Hamster 9 points ago +11 / -2

The Culture War you describe is being fought already on many fronts. That's what the Information War is all about, and the alternative economy is growing daily. This site is but one example.

Politics is downstream from Culture. Win that, and the groundswell of support from the great unwashed masses will follow.

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PermaHandshake 14 points ago +15 / -1

We aren't well unified yet. Our enemies are doing a good job dividing us and we'll lose if that continues. We have to unify under a single banner. Also, unless we focus on kids, we'll lose. They control all the institutions. This site is not bad but most people on this website still use social media, still put their kids in school, etc... people here still partake in the culture despite the fact the our enemies control the institution. Over time they will brainwash our kids and our culture will lose. I still meet conservatives who only want 1-2 children because it's too expensive. Or want their wife to work full-time because it's too expensive so they put their kids in public school. YOU WILL LOSE with that mentality.

People aren't taking drastic enough action to fully change course.

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War_Hamster 6 points ago +8 / -2

Yes, I've been saying something similar.

I was just on the phone with some of the grass roots organizers on the West Coast and I made a point about unified messaging. That should be coming soon.

The banner I want to see is a Populist American banner. The GOP is just a political vehicle; the movement is the people and has the power. Not branding the movement as a "right wing" one is key to welcoming former Dems and I's who now see what the Dems/Uniparty has become.

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VexusMinister 2 points ago +2 / -0

Great work organizing, pede. If we had a thousand like you, we could move mountains.

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jerrycan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Welcoming former dems is just going to open yourself up to the exact same subversion that is happening now

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PermaHandshake 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you care about optics, you've already lost. We should be able to unite around a fascist party. The names, brand, image don't matter. Playing that game is how you lose.

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HuggableBear 3 points ago +4 / -1

We aren't well unified yet.

We never will be. At its root, that's the entirety of our differences with the left.

They want everyone to be good little myrmidons and we value individuality.

People who value individuality will never unify into a monolith. It goes against our very nature.

That's why no matter how much you may want to use their own strategies against them, it will never work. We simply don't function that way. We have to win this war on 100,000,000 individual fronts, not on one gigantic front.

This is asymmetric warfare. Our primary weapon is our willingness to stand alone in front of a mob and not back down.

Too many people on our side are no longer willing to do that, and that's why we're losing.

Stand up and tell your "friends" to fuck off with their liberal insanity any time they start spouting it. Mock them, belittle them, destroy their arguments, and make them the object of derision. They feed on adulation. That's why they regurgitate whatever the mob says, because then they feel like everyone likes them and agrees with them. When you make them look like a blithering idiot that hasn't put two seconds of thought into their ideas, it cuts them to the core.

But don't engage with the mob itself. That's ridiculous. Their mob will always be bigger than ours. They own the government, the media, corporations, etc. Any time you try to engage on that front (cough January 6th), you will lose.

You have to break them one mind at a time because their hive mind is impenetrable.

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KingSweyn 1 point ago +1 / -0

We don't need a common ideology, we only need to recognize our common enemy. Unity isn't a pipe dream.

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krzyzowiec 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or want their wife to work full-time because it's too expensive so they put their kids in public school.

Meanwhile what are they spending that money on? Pointless consumerist crap. This is why we’re losing.

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PermaHandshake 2 points ago +2 / -0

It is entirely pointless consumerist crap.

People think they need to go on 1-2 major vacations a year. That is a luxury. There is 0 need for this. You think families went on major vacations 1-2 times a year 40 years ago? LMAO.

Two vehicles and new ones at that? Daycare? Starbucks in the morning? Boat/RV/Camper? New equipment for some new hobby you only do 3 times total? $20 cocktails just to say you "went out"? Fancy restaurants or Uber Eats instead of cooking because people are too tired from work to cook? New purses? New clothes that get worn twice? A big house in a NICE neighborhood even though you've never met your neighbors and hardly spend any time in the kitchen anyway? Student debt? Why did you go to school in the first place?

The way people are living is so inefficient and non-optimal. The only people truly benefiting from dual-income lifestyles are the employers who have doubled their wage slaves thus depressing salaries. Men would be better off if their wife stayed home and women would enjoy life more if they just stayed home instead of worked and convinced themselves they needed to work to be valuable as a human.

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krzyzowiec 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is the way. Torba was 100% right. You just make the new world that you want to live in and you band together to keep them out.

Christians must make their own world apart from the rest.

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Dfalt 2 points ago +2 / -0

the problem with this is that there's no way in hell they'd let us do that peacfully.

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PermaHandshake 3 points ago +3 / -0

What's the problem?