We should be equally skeptical of reports of "deaths from COVID vaccine" as we have been of various official counts of "deaths from COVID." Dying shortly after receiving one of the COVID vaccines doesn't prove the vaccine caused the death, any more that Dying shortly after testing positive for COVID proves COVID caused the death.
That said, deaths that result from anaphylactic shock reactions within minutes of receiving any kind or vaccine, or any other kind of injection or medication, are likely to actually have been caused by the vaccine/injection/medication. However, anaphylactic shock reactions to these vaccines have been rare, and should be manageable without patient deaths, if the staff administering the vaccines and monitoring recipients during the brief waiting period afterwards, are doing their jobs properly and are equipped with epi-pens and fully authorized to use them without delay or outside approval.
With the huge push to vaccinate tens of millions of people very quickly, I do worry that not all of the workers who are doing the vaccinating and post-vaccination monitoring are up to par. If you are getting one of the COVID vaccines in a setting other than your personal physician's office or in a pharmacy by a pharmacist you are very familiar with, you should ask first "Exactly what happens if I begin to show signs of an anaphylaxis reaction before I leave? Who exactly will be watching me? Where are the epi-pens and who is authorized to use them without first getting permission from someone else?" If there is any hesitation or confusion about the answers to these questions, leave and find another place to get vaccinated. Anaphylaxis is not something that direct patient-care workers can be figuring out how to handle after it has started.
Anaphylaxis is one of the more commonly reported symptoms associated with deaths following vaccination in the VAERS database. There are plenty of others.
Are you more inclined or less inclined to believe that any deaths following a Covid vaccination will attributed to the actual vaccination?
On this forum most users seem to believe any and all claims that a death was caused by a COVID vaccine. I'm just noting that this is not any more rational than believing all the COVID death statistics that included people who almost certainly died of something else and just happened to test positive for COVID. Given how exaggerated official statistics of COVID deaths were, I'm not inclined to assume official reports of numbers of COVID vaccine deaths are accurate, but information provided by legitimate medical and epidemiological researchers are likely to be very accurate ("legitimate" does not mean anyone with an MD, and most definitely does not mean people or organizations with a history of general anti-vaccine activism).
On this forum most users seem to believe any and all claims that a death was caused by a COVID vaccine.
I give users on this forum credit for doing their own research and don't assume to know what they believe. I can't speak to the other forums you may visit or post in, but I respect that people here are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions.
I judge by the comments on posts linking to sensational tales from sketchy sources. Lots of people replying with comments showing they believe it at face value, not asking for evidence, not pointing out glaring holes in the claims, and parroting conspiracy theory lines about how "they" are trying to kill people with the vaccine, "reprogram your DNA", and similar nonsense. Very few people making rational comments showing a commitment to real facts, evidence, and analysis.
We should be equally skeptical of reports of "deaths from COVID vaccine" as we have been of various official counts of "deaths from COVID." Dying shortly after receiving one of the COVID vaccines doesn't prove the vaccine caused the death, any more that Dying shortly after testing positive for COVID proves COVID caused the death.
That said, deaths that result from anaphylactic shock reactions within minutes of receiving any kind or vaccine, or any other kind of injection or medication, are likely to actually have been caused by the vaccine/injection/medication. However, anaphylactic shock reactions to these vaccines have been rare, and should be manageable without patient deaths, if the staff administering the vaccines and monitoring recipients during the brief waiting period afterwards, are doing their jobs properly and are equipped with epi-pens and fully authorized to use them without delay or outside approval.
With the huge push to vaccinate tens of millions of people very quickly, I do worry that not all of the workers who are doing the vaccinating and post-vaccination monitoring are up to par. If you are getting one of the COVID vaccines in a setting other than your personal physician's office or in a pharmacy by a pharmacist you are very familiar with, you should ask first "Exactly what happens if I begin to show signs of an anaphylaxis reaction before I leave? Who exactly will be watching me? Where are the epi-pens and who is authorized to use them without first getting permission from someone else?" If there is any hesitation or confusion about the answers to these questions, leave and find another place to get vaccinated. Anaphylaxis is not something that direct patient-care workers can be figuring out how to handle after it has started.
Anaphylaxis is one of the more commonly reported symptoms associated with deaths following vaccination in the VAERS database. There are plenty of others.
Are you more inclined or less inclined to believe that any deaths following a Covid vaccination will attributed to the actual vaccination?
On this forum most users seem to believe any and all claims that a death was caused by a COVID vaccine. I'm just noting that this is not any more rational than believing all the COVID death statistics that included people who almost certainly died of something else and just happened to test positive for COVID. Given how exaggerated official statistics of COVID deaths were, I'm not inclined to assume official reports of numbers of COVID vaccine deaths are accurate, but information provided by legitimate medical and epidemiological researchers are likely to be very accurate ("legitimate" does not mean anyone with an MD, and most definitely does not mean people or organizations with a history of general anti-vaccine activism).
I give users on this forum credit for doing their own research and don't assume to know what they believe. I can't speak to the other forums you may visit or post in, but I respect that people here are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions.
I judge by the comments on posts linking to sensational tales from sketchy sources. Lots of people replying with comments showing they believe it at face value, not asking for evidence, not pointing out glaring holes in the claims, and parroting conspiracy theory lines about how "they" are trying to kill people with the vaccine, "reprogram your DNA", and similar nonsense. Very few people making rational comments showing a commitment to real facts, evidence, and analysis.