Veritas shows you those women from Google saying they were going to "prevent another Trump situation." Why are you surprised? If somebody tells you that they're going to take an axe and chop your head off ... believe them!
You know you live in a dictatorship when you can't even entertain the idea of criticism of the dictator. He wasn't even saying any actual criticism but merely the idea of thinking about criticizing the dictator is met with censorship. That's how you know when you live in a dictatorship..
3 years these anti-American violent social media networks constantly promoted debunked conspiracy theories about the president being a Russian agent.. conspiracy theories that motivated people to commit violence and murder.. as well as just being disinformatio
when dictator Joe gets into office you're not allowed to criticize him at all? You're not allowed to entertain the idea of any election senanigans. You're not allowed to even discuss the possibility of somebody else saying it? That's a dictatorship. And if the Republican Party wasn't the most corrupt party in the history of the planet they would have passed regulations preventing social media networks from deciding what people can say.. but since the Republican party is just an extension of Wall Street they never wil..
Remember how violently leftists would attack Fox News over the last decade, until Fox itself became subverted? If they can't beat you, they'll infiltrate you
Well said and an unfortunate truth, now that we are not a nation of laws the only law is what can be enforced at the barrel of a gun. if you have the firepower, then what you say goes.
The billionaires are not dumb and they aren't cowering in fear of self doubt. Have you ever listened to Sergey or "Soros" or Zuckerberg? They have fundamentally different values and aspirations. Don't underestimate your enemy. For along time now militaries target some variant of C3, command, control, communications. The owners of YouTube hate us. They don't need Crowder's audience and they don't want to provide a platform to him. Heck, would this forum want to host the Young Turks or some Maddo w marathon?
The enemy is being fairly clear now. No free speech. Lies about American principles and people. Promote vile things.
Whats annoying is that you have these social media platforms banning people left and right for having a conservative thought, so you are only left with crazy far-left radicals and businesses who use these platforms start believing that America is far-left so they push stupid fucking woke ideas to please a small minority of retards.
Social media is a fucking cancer.
Basically anything the left touches turns cancerous.
If it was all guys, we would talk about anything, break balls and talk shit to one another without much issues aside from fisty cuffs.. when girls force their way into guy groups, it fucks up the group. Walk on eggshells, simping/white knighting, and other bullshit.
Sorry lady pedes... but seems most ladies are detrimental to many things.
It's almost as if the reason the only social orders that survived to the 20th century were patriarchal ones was because evolution weeded out the failures.
EXACTLY. My suspicion of YT started over a decade ago. I never signed in once they tried to make you use a Google account with your real name and other PII attached. That was around 2010.
Google bought Keyhole Inc. and its development team to build Google Earth in 2004. Keyhole was a series of NSA surveillance satellites from 1959-1972. CIA and NSA were partial owners of Keyhole Inc..."Don't be evil" my ass.
Each such immigrant carries a magic redpill exlir they sprinkle on their neighbors and anyone unfortunate enough to encounter them, turning blue people red instantly.
Always remember Susan Wokciki obtained her billions and leverage over our culture by spreading her legs. That was the sum total of her skills and the sum total of her qualifications.
"YouTube is still being mean to me. I guess I'll log onto my other YouTube account to complain about it. I'm not going to stop using YouTube and stop helping them get traffic. That would be crazy."
I upvoted both you and the comment you replied to.
You are both correct, and I’m not sure which answer is better. I’m leaning towards the nuclear option (I.e. - never go to YouTube again) but both arguments have merit.
I upvoted all three of you, because you’re all here, freely discussing a topic, with dissenting opinions, and even maybe a bit of snark, and it’s all good ❤️🇺🇸
I side with “leave you tube now” #YouExit or #TubeExite or whatever.
Exodus from YouTube. Yes, “we’re ceding that ground.”
But,
It’s not Our ground anymore. If this is how they want it, let them have it. Their ground is restrictive and exclusive to a single opinion. Our ground is welcoming and free to all - because on our ground, ideas survive and thrive through intellectual battle and competition.
Crowder and the rest of us aren’t there to educate the left. And their ideas are rot anyway, we all know it. Let them get stuck in their own echo chamber and start tearing each other apart. YOU KNOW THEY WILL. If they have no one to hate, what will they do?! They’ll find someone to hate, on their “own ground” of YouTube.
Their censorship is their right.. It’s not a public area. What if they wanna make it “adult only”? Their right. “Kids only”? Their right. “Communists only”? Their right!
Yes, yes, they’re a platform. Worthless argument. Fight that without using YouTube - not using it at least gives this weak argument more weight because you’re saying “this free platform is no not free, I can’t even use it,” while staying on it sends the reverse message, if digging in shows something else (like gradual self censorship and narrowing of the acceptable speech over time).
We have alternate platforms, that aren’t Isenev by Alphabet or Amazon. Why not use those and promote them instead? What is the real problem is amazon and apple and YouTube and twitter coming together to ban people and apps, so that we can’t even build alternatives. So then we need to support services like Epik and build on those. I agree with Torba, and I’ve been saying it for years even before that, we need to build our own alternate economy. We’ve slowly let the left populate the economy with leftists shit, and support their tech and services, the profits of which they then use to promote and advance leftism.
Anyway, there’s a lot to discuss and explore on every point here. But I lean towards
leave YouTube
What’s the reverse? You’re trying to teach them a lesson? Trying to twist their arms? Trying to change their minds? Replace their C-level or more of their staff with real Americans? What’s the end goal of staying on there? Everyone knows it’s only going to get worse until it kills us or implodes. They can’t turn themselves around, I think.
If you leave youtube their market power will leave them. You are their market power. Move to Rumble or Odessy (spelled right I believe) .
People get caught by the "I'm only one person" fallacy. We're all only one person. We only make change one person at a time. Pretend that by making your choice, you're magically causing other people to make the same choice. That is how to think about all these mass movement type things. You can't see the effect you're having but it's there. So help yourself out by using your imagination.
Youtube is stupid and thinks advertisers will stay on the platform WRONG. Advertiser's entire goal is to get eye balls to see their ads and buy their products. If the viewers move to another platform well guess what? The advertisers follow because at the end of the day, eye balls seeing your ads = more sales.
Plus if all the interesting people with different opinions leave, their content becomes stale and boring just like the MSM, and things will take care of themselves.
Their censorship is their right.. It’s not a public area. What if they wanna make it “adult only”? Their right. “Kids only”? Their right. “Communists only”? Their right!
I reject this. The public square has always been a core part of a representative government, going back farther than our own constitution. We have multiple court decisions within our country for over a century supporting the idea that a privately owned public square is still a public square.
I reject the notion that there is no such thing as a digital public square. They exist and it is social media. All social media, including youtube. The public, communicating directly with each other, in a space owned by a private entity, is still a public square and receives the protections of same.
We don't go to youtube, facebook, or twitter to hear the opinions of their representatives or to buy product from them. We come to talk to each other, and they attempt to make money via billboards in these gathering places. They are built for, and constantly engaging in, classic public square activity and if we cede this ground then the precedent will absolutely destroy the concept of a digital public square. The consequences to our representative and democratic societies are, potentially, catastrophic.
The public, communicating directly with each other, in a space owned by a private entity, is still a public square and receives the protections of same.
How could you have free speech rights in a privately owned space if the owner can legally remove you? I mean, you can have them, but seems you can’t expect to be able to except use them more than once, if the owner wants it that way.
Say I own a small park. And you’re not allowed unless I say so. How could you expect to have free speech rights in my little park if the second you say something disagreeable to me, I simply ask you to leave (and you legally must oblige?
Are twitter or YouTube legally allowed to remove people without cause whatsoever, in your opinion? Because as faggot scum as I think the owners are, they are paying for server space and bandwidth, among other costs, to enable people on the platform to speak.
ow could you have free speech rights in a privately owned space if the owner can legally remove you? I mean, you can have them, but seems you can’t expect to be able to except use them more than once, if the owner wants it that way.
I ask this question but differently as well.
If the mailbox belongs to the post office and becomes federal property once I put it up and mount it why am I the one responsible for replacing it if someone smashes into it?
If someone slips and falls on the sidewalk and sues me I am responsible. However if I take a jackhammer to the same sidewalk I will receive a C&D and be billed to it to be fixed from the city. If I'm responsible for it its mine and I'm free to jack hammer it. If I'm not free to jackhammer it why should I be responsible for it?
How could you have free speech rights in a privately owned space if the owner can legally remove you? I mean, you can have them, but seems you can’t expect to be able to except use them more than once, if the owner wants it that way.
Because that space is serving as a public square. Company owned towns were a thing for quite awhile in this country, and this argument that the entire street and all the sidewalks were company property was used to argue this exact point, and they lost. The space was open to the general public, and was being used to share ideas, and thus was a public square with all the rights that go with it.
Youtube, twitter, facebook, are all doing what those towns did. Everybody can come in, unless we specifically decide that we don't like you specifically, based on the beliefs you are espousing on our terf. This exact fight for this exact argument has been litigated already, and we the people won. Marsh vs Alabama was the biggest one.
Say I own a small park. And you’re not allowed unless I say so. How could you expect to have free speech rights in my little park if the second you say something disagreeable to me, I simply ask you to leave (and you legally must oblige?
EDIT3 for clarity: Your tiny park with a small list of specific allowed people is fine. But that isn't analogous to social media. Instead, your park is letting everybody in by default. Then later you decide to say 'fuck mharmless, specifically, because he said stuff I hate. mharmless specifically can't come in now'. You would lose that case. You have made your park a public square and invited effectively the entire world, then tried to bar me specifically from it over constitutionally protected speech. My speech trumps your property rights if your property is a public square. Hence the central question in my mind is 'is there such a thing as a digital public square?', and if the answer is 'no', then a huge part of our democratic traditions are dead and buried going forward into this computerized future. If the answer is 'yes', then we need to do nothing more than identify what the digital version of that physical space is, and I think anybody looking at it honestly will be forced to conclude that social media is that digital analog. From there it is just a matter of applying the centuries of rules and precedent we already have.
EDIT: Adding a great analog here, parks inside of HOAs. Those parks don't belong to the government, they belong to the private HOA. And this is the exact reason they always say that the park is only open to HOA members and not the general public. As soon as such a park let the general public in, they would no longer be able to control it. That park would become a public space and the weight of legal history would make it impossible to kick out bums and drug dealers. They have to have a whitelist of allowed users, because blacklists don't cut it when trying to establish your space as a private one.
Are twitter or YouTube legally allowed to remove people without cause whatsoever, in your opinion? Because as faggot scum as I think the owners are, they are paying for server space and bandwidth, among other costs, to enable people on the platform to speak.
I think they are subject to the same kinds of limits a public square is. The edges of this would be tested in court, but basically if you could get away with it on a street corner you would get away with it here.
Regarding fines and such, both AOL and Compuserve were sued over this very topic RE public square status in the early 90s, and both cases sided with the companies because they charged fees to use the services. That was the argument the court went with, not the idea that they could deny whatever they wanted to whomever they wanted. Because they charged an entry fee, they were not a public square but rather a private club or service.
If facebook, youtube, or twitter started charging a small fee in order to open an account, that would be sufficient to make them not a public square. Same way that Costco has more power over their premises because they have made their store a non-public venue that charges a fee to be a member.
EDIT2: But none of those companies are going to do that, because they need the vast majority of the general public on-board so they can make their money on our data and our content and our conversations. Effectively, they are trying to harvest all the benefits of the public square and the free exchange of ideas within it, while dodging all of the obligations that go with such a space. If they added even a tiny fee, they would lose too many users and the exchange of money would give their users a whole host of other legal rights they don't want to deal with.
People get directed to .win from neutral sites, politically lateral and friends.
Plus , people steal each other's ideas on here, not just memes, and also develop their own through argumentation. Then they leave here and spread them around.
Can't go outside cuz Covid.
"Right wing" books get banned (anything short of Marx seems to be right wing these days).
Can't go shooting when they ban guns.
Don’t fall into an echo chamber. As stupid as it is some people only get info from YouTube or Twitter. You may not but there are people who turn to those places for everything just like there are people who turn to CNN or FOX.
Story time. In 2016 I did not vote for Trump. All I was hearing was bad shit. The censorship was real even then. I didn’t vote for Hillary either because I have never fallen that far left and I at least had some idea of her being a piece of shit. I happened to see on my Google front page “Steven Crowder a Nazi” or something similar. So I looked him up on YouTube. Listened. Wasn’t my favorite but I was like “where is the Nazi shit.” So I continued to listen. That is what lead me down the rabbit hole of “Oh shit they are flat lying about Trump what else are they lying about.” Which lead me to r/conservative which lead me to r/T_D which lead me here after it was run off the site. It lead me to physically campaigning for a guy (Trump) and getting politically involved for the first time ever. If it wasn’t for a Twitter article that lead me to YouTube I probably wouldn’t be here.
You should. These are popular platforms where people go to exchange ideas and form their political beliefs (whether that's a good thing or not is irrelevant). If one political side is hidden from view, it dies.
any other competing platform currently offers a minuscule fraction of the potential audience
to completely abandon youtube before alternatives can grow to compete would be pretty foolish
valid criticism might be that you think people like Crowder have the clout to help grow another platform and aren't currently doing enough to help that growth, but in the here and now, completely ditching youtube out of principle doesn't make sense if the goal is to keep spreading the non-fake news to as many people as possible
The good old appeal to hypocrisy fallacy. You're using it. It has zero bearing on the argument he is making. Feel free to actually address what Crowder was talking about.
Dependent on the revenue and still wants to "win" a fight with companies who can moneywhip him into oblivion. He's strengthening his overlords and then pontificating after they knock his ass out with one punch.
he's been demonitized for years.. so he gets no money from youtube. Only viewers and potential sign ups, if you count that. But Its important to have content on youtube for easy sharing to normies.
Legit talented content creators on youtube, are being phased out and replaced with useless trash who don't create anything, like commentary channels and streamers wanting losers to watch them play video games. How fucking simple and boring do people have to be to spend hours of their lives watching someone else have fun or spew ignorant nonsense while also giving them money to do it. Civ is on the brink of collapse right now thanks to leftism.
The big content creators bring in less money, and lose YT a lot more money, than BigAd.
BigAd is all in now with YT, has been for a while. It's the new TV. There are people who only watch YT (my sister), and that's the biggest, juiciest market for ad buys.
Google is pretty much done positioning YT as a TV network, and are transitioning to the same nonsense and censoring that the networks do, to control the content and not drive YT ad buyers away. Game streamers? Harmless - but they can't say certain words, or they're banned. You can say "fuck" - but don't you dare say "rape". And it wasn't that long ago they were actually warning content creators to not use the word "covid".
Of all the tech companies, Google is the most evil. They make Facebook look like amateurs. They own the internet. They own internet advertising. They own internet marketing. If you want to get anywhere online, on a web browser, you have to suck some Google dick. (unless you're not trying to make money, like this site)
Web's gotta evolve. We need a new Web standard that Google doesn't have locked down. I'm not holding my breath, but it's the #1 way they track/control people.
How fucking simple and boring do people have to be to spend hours of their lives watching someone else have fun or spew ignorant nonsense while also giving them money to do it.
ESPN has entered the chat.
For the record, I agree with you but it's not without precedent.
I've watched people play video games but it is like a tournament or some pro player that has god-like skills. I agree though your average person on twitch or youtube is boring as shit. Dr Disrepsect is pretty funny though. No doubt he is MAGA.
The only appeal I see is when someone does a record-breaking speedrun. There's almost an art to it. Other than that, it's almost entirely e-thots and boring dudes.
I don't know what happened but I noticed he wasn't uploading to youtube lately however I see he's active on odysee so we can catch him there: https://odysee.com/@SaltyCracker:a
PoliceActivity is one of the few based and redpilled channels on YouTube allowed to post completely uncensored videos of what cops have to deal with on a daily basis
They banned him for a week, demonitized his channel(s) for "Presidential Election Integrity" policy. In the 2nd Nevada video, but didn't say what was against the policy.
Crowder showed addresses of people who voted, and the address didn't exist. Crowder had people drive and show the addresses didn't exit.
He never claimed the election was stolen or massive fraud, so he would be ok by their shitty policy. So they ban him under the policy and wont say what in the policy he broke.
The fact that they won’t even let people say the election was stolen would have been considered insane five years ago. They had NO problem letting people say Trump stole it in 2016.
Crowder is the "Canary in the Coal Mine". He will get back on Youtube after threatening legal action, but just 2 days ago the heads of Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube met with congress where they where urged to be more restrictive with content. They immediately went after Crowder.
The reality is this week/weekend, the left has something major they are going to attempt to pull off, and they need voices like Salty Cracker and Crowder to be silenced first so their base in confused. Its engineered reaction. The government will do something absolutely tyrannical in the next week and these voices will be the ones that enable an action plan to fight against it.
Counterpoint. It's a false-flag. Nothing will happen and life goes on. The suspensions get lifted and then re-applied a few weeks/months later. This goes on for a while until they're eventually booted entirely.
For those of us that were wondering what was happening this morning on mugclub because you are not paid, this was played for the final 7 minutes after Half Asian Lawyer Bill Richmond and Dave Landau were done giving an update.
Secondly, some of you were reluctant to pay for MugClub. It is a wonderful deal. It gives you not only all of Crowder, but you also get all of The Blaze content including Mark Levine. Just something for you to think about.
Alex jones built a media empire and never forced anyone to pay a dime to watch or listen to 100% of his content since, like, the 90's. So there's that.
I love Jones, but he is a bit crazy. I was watching banned.video for capital stuff live for a few days, but that empire lost luster quickly and there was a lot of content that was a bit too far out there even for me. Crowder makes clown world funny and bearable.
Seriously. I gave Alex a few token purchases of shit I would have bought anyway somewhere else, but he goes off the rails way too often.
I like how he brings in topics nobody else will even when some of it may turn out false in the end, but he goes 100% emotional investment in everything. It makes things entertaining, but when he actually finds something genuinely concerning to an average viewer you can't decipher the signal from the noise. He's like the mainstream media of conspiracy news - everything is blown out of proportion and very little effort is taken to find plausible explanations that might discount it.
I always thought Jones was crazy - but years ago he built infowars.com - and here we are in an information war. Those who control the means of information (not production anymore) hold the power. Much of what he said years ago is coming to light now.
Don’t underestimate that crazy SOB.
I would also recommend censored.tv - Gavin Mccinnes is hilarious and redpilled. He also has a podcast.
Jones is crazy for sure and a lot of what he says is BS but deep down, he is 100% patriot and his audience is 100% patriots too so I get him my utmost respect in that regard. The more people we have on our side, the better. I don't give a fuck if they're crazy. In fact, the crazier they are, the better because when the shit starts going down you want those crazy animalistic mother fuckers on your side lmao.
I would have signed up to support Mug Club long ago, were it not for the Blaze/Beck connection. I hear how Beck has changed his tone, but he's changed his tone before just to change it right back when the wind shifts. I just don't trust him, and don't want a penny of my money finding it's way into his pockets.
I think Glenn Beck would be over the moon if Mitt Romney were President, and the Republican party went back to being the party of Bushes and McCains.
I agree. I see Blaze doing a lot of lazy articles with just as much click-bate as MSM it's just in the other direction. I don't appreciate their methods .
Yes sir. Spend your time and money propping up those that you agree with and believe in. Stoping buying Marvel and buy indie comics. Stop going to the movies and watch Run, Hide, Fight from Daily Wire. Watch your favorite youtubers on their alternate platforms if they have it. There are new and rising things we can do to fill our media intake we just need to take the time to try new things.
This right here is the reason I never took the plunge either. I'd happily pay the full price if I knew every last cent was going to Crowder and his crew.
Reasonable. I certainly get it. Still better than letting big tech win. I get it though. Beck fucked up REAL hard...he bent the knee though enough for me.
I feel like he's pandering to the left and begging for YouTube to bring them back by saying crap like "I didn't say Donald Trump won the election" - So disappointed. Sad.
Crowder has a lawyer because he reviews what he is going to say before each show with him to make sure it doesn't violate youtube policy . All he was pointing out was that the show did not violate youtube policy.
Agreed. BUT if they are gonna watch YouTube (mine does too - no judgment from my statement) you should install YouTube kids app. They kid less commercials and are age appropriate and less woke for sure. Just some motherly advice from a trumpette.
Don't let kids on youtube, period. There is porn and shit on there and even pedo videos (I'm not kidding). Some guy made a video awhile back showing how it works and he confirmed it was true.
youtube is cracking down heavy on truth talk. Salty Cracker is in a 2 week - or was it one week - time out right now. They took down a double handful of his vids, some of them his 2 hour live streams from weeks back, with the usual "community standards violations" crap.
Salty was demonetized on YT quite a while back but he keeps streaming there to, as he says, yank people off and get them to the new platforms of rumble, bitchute and odysee so eventually they can just quit YT. I really like odysee and watch after the streams are posted. Odysee is working with Salty to get their live streaming going. Growing pains.
So, yeah. Fight them on their own channel, grow the audience and get them to follow over to new places that believe in freedom. Looking forward to seeing exactly what Mike Lindell has brewing!
Under no circumstances should we be leaving these platforms. If anything, we should be making 2 accounts for every account they silence. Invade their safe spaces, swarm their comment sections. We are problematic and we should be a problem.
Shor-term, sure but that is ultimately futile. Long-term, we need to migrate off those platforms where we can't be censored and then grow those communities from there. It takes work is why most just want to stay on youtube and complain on twitter or some shit.
The problem I see with alternative platforms is they always follow the same game plan. They push us out of the public forum and then label whatever means we develope to communicate as hate groups. Gab is a platform for white nationalists. Parler is a platform for conservative conspiracy hate groups. TDW/Patriots is a site full of terrorists/cyber criminals/hackers/hateful frrog merchants/etc.
When we abandon the public forum, we allow them to form uncontested echo chambers.
I don't really know what Crowder was expecting to happen. You don't get have your cake and eat it, too. You poke the dog, the dog is going to bite, not send you a paycheck.
Crowder is overrated and a fool to stay on YouTube.
Gavin McInnes is on nearly his second year of censored.tv which hosts its own videos. He actually has a platform for other people that have been censored by YouTube.
Support someone actually supporting free speech instead of financing Crowder's lawsuits and himself. You don't get a mug, but you get better content.
When does this end? Does every known internet commentator need to run to a subscription service, have their opinions locked behind a paywall, before we start to see free speech on the internet again?
I realize why he does it, but, to us, he is pretty much straight up lying, no? We all know they cheated, he even has evidence himself. I dunno, it's just grating to listen to. I guess I'll have to accept it if it informs even a single normie.
This isn't just about playing videos on youtube. This is a fight against big tech for American values.
Building our own platforms is a libertarian ideal, but it has proven a failure, and doesn't do anything to conserve american values. Any platform can be infiltrated and turned against us if we don't fight for traditional American values.
Can we stop pretending this isn’t going to happen to every single conservative voice public and private so we can move the ball forward. We are way past outage and shock. This isn’t a new story and frankly i don’t give a shit about m.i.a. Crowder. When they conspired to steal the election from Trump we should have all turned a corner. Complaining about censorship now is just going backwards
Nobody gives a shit if you scream that Trump won. Anyone who agrees with it won't cause anything to change and the people who are needed will disregard it as toting the party line.
Seriously, go scream Trump won and see if it does anything? It doesn't do shit.
You want to win, you have to hold people's feet to the fire and make them PROVE you wrong. That's literally Crowder's whole schtick because he's better than you and all the fucktards that just scream Trump won without realizing no one is listening.
Self censoring? Pussy? Faggot? He proved voter fraud and is taking facebook to court. What the fuck have you done? Scream Trump won? You're a coward.
Great, now come to the realization that saying Trump won on a forum means literally jack shit.
Right now, I am accusing you of being nothing more than a poser. I'm accusing you of being just as bad as the RINO's who bark like dogs behind a fence. Once the fence is gone, you cower in fear. That's what you are.
Oh really? Tell us, Where is the investigative work YOU have done to try to prove the election was actually fraud ridden? Show Us how you were able to ignore the Bullshit rules that Youtube has in place while Crowder has to tip toe around the shit.
Yep, that's where I lost any sympathy I might've had for his situation. f he wants to stay on youtube and not speak the truth, I won't be there for him.
I've never watched you on YouTube anyway, I joined mug club a long time ago! YouTube is asshole. Trump won by a lot, covid is a hoax and the vaccine is not a vaccine.
If Crowder and Salty were banned 4 weeks apart I’d say “yep, the tide of censorship” but two huge movers like that, so close together makes me worried something big about to happen and they want complete silence.
Well this is the final straw. Its going to be a boring next few months while I try to find some where to watch stuff. I said when they ban crowder and tim pool I was done.
Saltycracker and styxhexenhammer have been on Odysee for a while now. Mark dice and paint the Trump have been on rumble a while now.
I stopped YouTube months ago, it is evil now.
It is but ease of access plus, being able to watch things unrelated to politics is nice. There's not alot of non-political stuff on those other sites because Youtube is specifically banning one thing so non-political creators don't have a reason to leave.
When liberals socialists have their world view challenged and the result in them feeling like their world view doesn't make sense for half a second, their first response, get mad and silence the challenger.
Why not!?
Veritas shows you those women from Google saying they were going to "prevent another Trump situation." Why are you surprised? If somebody tells you that they're going to take an axe and chop your head off ... believe them!
The Left seeks to continually narrow the spectrum of acceptable discourse until the ONLY acceptable discourse is theirs.
The left primarily doesn't even accept themselves.
That's why they focus on enemies to destroy instead.
You see it as a weakness, but it is the source of their power.
Until they run out of external enemies and start killing each other off. It'll happen.
When it's too late for anyone sane, sure.
Talk about a Phyrric victory.
You know you live in a dictatorship when you can't even entertain the idea of criticism of the dictator. He wasn't even saying any actual criticism but merely the idea of thinking about criticizing the dictator is met with censorship. That's how you know when you live in a dictatorship..
3 years these anti-American violent social media networks constantly promoted debunked conspiracy theories about the president being a Russian agent.. conspiracy theories that motivated people to commit violence and murder.. as well as just being disinformatio
when dictator Joe gets into office you're not allowed to criticize him at all? You're not allowed to entertain the idea of any election senanigans. You're not allowed to even discuss the possibility of somebody else saying it? That's a dictatorship. And if the Republican Party wasn't the most corrupt party in the history of the planet they would have passed regulations preventing social media networks from deciding what people can say.. but since the Republican party is just an extension of Wall Street they never wil..
It happens in feminist/Women's groups all the time. They turn on each other predictably and with quite a bit of vicousness.
"Hate the one you're with", seems to be their theme.
The left has already started canceling gays.
It's called retard strength.
It’s almost like that’s been their plan the whole time
Exactly why I never watch or thought about a YouTube channel. Think the enemy is going to tolerate your baes on their turf ? I mean, come on.
Remember how violently leftists would attack Fox News over the last decade, until Fox itself became subverted? If they can't beat you, they'll infiltrate you
And even still they hate it with a passion. Don't give the left anything.
"15 days to slow the spread."
You mean to tell me the company with a masonic envelope and sigil of Satan for its corporate logos is hiding something? Naw.
Or it's just an envelope
They will narrow the spectrum of acceptable discourse until the censored only have one recourse...fight for our lives with every tool at our disposal
Well said and an unfortunate truth, now that we are not a nation of laws the only law is what can be enforced at the barrel of a gun. if you have the firepower, then what you say goes.
The more you squeeze Darth Vader, the more the rebel alliance slips through your fingers
It's called "failing upwards." Incompetence and compliance get rewarded, free thinking gets punished.
This is one of the reason's we'll win. It's a competency sieve.
Also, the more they tighten the screws, the more people defect from them.
I can say this aloud in an open forum because they can't help themselves. It's what their brains are coded to do.
The billionaires are not dumb and they aren't cowering in fear of self doubt. Have you ever listened to Sergey or "Soros" or Zuckerberg? They have fundamentally different values and aspirations. Don't underestimate your enemy. For along time now militaries target some variant of C3, command, control, communications. The owners of YouTube hate us. They don't need Crowder's audience and they don't want to provide a platform to him. Heck, would this forum want to host the Young Turks or some Maddo w marathon?
The enemy is being fairly clear now. No free speech. Lies about American principles and people. Promote vile things.
Whats annoying is that you have these social media platforms banning people left and right for having a conservative thought, so you are only left with crazy far-left radicals and businesses who use these platforms start believing that America is far-left so they push stupid fucking woke ideas to please a small minority of retards.
Social media is a fucking cancer.
Basically anything the left touches turns cancerous.
New United States of America, 2043: "Daddy, why isn't mommy allowed to have a job or vote?"
Dad: "Let me tell you about 2020..."
If it was all guys, we would talk about anything, break balls and talk shit to one another without much issues aside from fisty cuffs.. when girls force their way into guy groups, it fucks up the group. Walk on eggshells, simping/white knighting, and other bullshit.
Sorry lady pedes... but seems most ladies are detrimental to many things.
It's almost as if the reason the only social orders that survived to the 20th century were patriarchal ones was because evolution weeded out the failures.
I knew it was coming when Google bought Youtube and then tried to tie people's real names to their youtube/google+ accounts.
"Don't be evil", right google, ya fucking faggots?
EXACTLY. My suspicion of YT started over a decade ago. I never signed in once they tried to make you use a Google account with your real name and other PII attached. That was around 2010.
I think they were trying to play catch-up to facebook at that point.
"Don't. Be Evil." gOoGlE
FTFY
Dont be Evil was the motto from like 1997 my guy
Redefine Evil so we can be Evil without being Evil - Google, 2016
Google bought Keyhole Inc. and its development team to build Google Earth in 2004. Keyhole was a series of NSA surveillance satellites from 1959-1972. CIA and NSA were partial owners of Keyhole Inc..."Don't be evil" my ass.
https://pando.com/2015/07/01/cia-foia-google-keyhole/
Alex Jones was 100% right.
He called his own ban from Youtube, back when the History Channel was nothing but Ancient Aliens.
That show is entertaining as fuck, TBF. And most likely true lol.
Listen, I'm not saying it was aliens that banned Crowder from YouTube but it was totally aliens.
And I'm totally convinced Zuckerberg is a reptilian android alien.
Don't cuck out.
Charge right to the center of the belly of the beast.
Slay the minotaur, win the princess, and father many pedes.
Each such immigrant carries a magic redpill exlir they sprinkle on their neighbors and anyone unfortunate enough to encounter them, turning blue people red instantly.
It's James Bond villain-level shit. Life imitates art.
I KNOW IT!
YOU KNOW IT!
EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!
“If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” George WashingtonGeorge Washington
~ George Washington (1732-1799) Founding Father, 1st US President, 'Father of the Country' Address to officers of the Army, 15 March 1783
Susan Wojcicki/Sundar Pichai - have decided to abuse their monopoly to destroy america
Always remember Susan Wokciki obtained her billions and leverage over our culture by spreading her legs. That was the sum total of her skills and the sum total of her qualifications.
"YouTube is still being mean to me. I guess I'll log onto my other YouTube account to complain about it. I'm not going to stop using YouTube and stop helping them get traffic. That would be crazy."
I upvoted both you and the comment you replied to.
You are both correct, and I’m not sure which answer is better. I’m leaning towards the nuclear option (I.e. - never go to YouTube again) but both arguments have merit.
I upvoted all three of you, because you’re all here, freely discussing a topic, with dissenting opinions, and even maybe a bit of snark, and it’s all good ❤️🇺🇸
I side with “leave you tube now” #YouExit or #TubeExite or whatever.
Exodus from YouTube. Yes, “we’re ceding that ground.”
But,
It’s not Our ground anymore. If this is how they want it, let them have it. Their ground is restrictive and exclusive to a single opinion. Our ground is welcoming and free to all - because on our ground, ideas survive and thrive through intellectual battle and competition.
Crowder and the rest of us aren’t there to educate the left. And their ideas are rot anyway, we all know it. Let them get stuck in their own echo chamber and start tearing each other apart. YOU KNOW THEY WILL. If they have no one to hate, what will they do?! They’ll find someone to hate, on their “own ground” of YouTube.
Their censorship is their right.. It’s not a public area. What if they wanna make it “adult only”? Their right. “Kids only”? Their right. “Communists only”? Their right!
Yes, yes, they’re a platform. Worthless argument. Fight that without using YouTube - not using it at least gives this weak argument more weight because you’re saying “this free platform is no not free, I can’t even use it,” while staying on it sends the reverse message, if digging in shows something else (like gradual self censorship and narrowing of the acceptable speech over time).
We have alternate platforms, that aren’t Isenev by Alphabet or Amazon. Why not use those and promote them instead? What is the real problem is amazon and apple and YouTube and twitter coming together to ban people and apps, so that we can’t even build alternatives. So then we need to support services like Epik and build on those. I agree with Torba, and I’ve been saying it for years even before that, we need to build our own alternate economy. We’ve slowly let the left populate the economy with leftists shit, and support their tech and services, the profits of which they then use to promote and advance leftism.
Anyway, there’s a lot to discuss and explore on every point here. But I lean towards
leave YouTube
What’s the reverse? You’re trying to teach them a lesson? Trying to twist their arms? Trying to change their minds? Replace their C-level or more of their staff with real Americans? What’s the end goal of staying on there? Everyone knows it’s only going to get worse until it kills us or implodes. They can’t turn themselves around, I think.
I think youtube is over. So, why delay?
leave YouTube
If you leave youtube their market power will leave them. You are their market power. Move to Rumble or Odessy (spelled right I believe) .
People get caught by the "I'm only one person" fallacy. We're all only one person. We only make change one person at a time. Pretend that by making your choice, you're magically causing other people to make the same choice. That is how to think about all these mass movement type things. You can't see the effect you're having but it's there. So help yourself out by using your imagination.
Amen.
*Odysee
https://odysee.com/$/invite/@Trump_Won_2020:b
💯 This
Youtube is stupid and thinks advertisers will stay on the platform WRONG. Advertiser's entire goal is to get eye balls to see their ads and buy their products. If the viewers move to another platform well guess what? The advertisers follow because at the end of the day, eye balls seeing your ads = more sales.
Plus if all the interesting people with different opinions leave, their content becomes stale and boring just like the MSM, and things will take care of themselves.
I reject this. The public square has always been a core part of a representative government, going back farther than our own constitution. We have multiple court decisions within our country for over a century supporting the idea that a privately owned public square is still a public square.
I reject the notion that there is no such thing as a digital public square. They exist and it is social media. All social media, including youtube. The public, communicating directly with each other, in a space owned by a private entity, is still a public square and receives the protections of same.
We don't go to youtube, facebook, or twitter to hear the opinions of their representatives or to buy product from them. We come to talk to each other, and they attempt to make money via billboards in these gathering places. They are built for, and constantly engaging in, classic public square activity and if we cede this ground then the precedent will absolutely destroy the concept of a digital public square. The consequences to our representative and democratic societies are, potentially, catastrophic.
I don’t understand this argument, namely
How could you have free speech rights in a privately owned space if the owner can legally remove you? I mean, you can have them, but seems you can’t expect to be able to except use them more than once, if the owner wants it that way.
Say I own a small park. And you’re not allowed unless I say so. How could you expect to have free speech rights in my little park if the second you say something disagreeable to me, I simply ask you to leave (and you legally must oblige?
Are twitter or YouTube legally allowed to remove people without cause whatsoever, in your opinion? Because as faggot scum as I think the owners are, they are paying for server space and bandwidth, among other costs, to enable people on the platform to speak.
Can they kick people out, legally, without cause?
I ask this question but differently as well.
If the mailbox belongs to the post office and becomes federal property once I put it up and mount it why am I the one responsible for replacing it if someone smashes into it?
If someone slips and falls on the sidewalk and sues me I am responsible. However if I take a jackhammer to the same sidewalk I will receive a C&D and be billed to it to be fixed from the city. If I'm responsible for it its mine and I'm free to jack hammer it. If I'm not free to jackhammer it why should I be responsible for it?
Because that space is serving as a public square. Company owned towns were a thing for quite awhile in this country, and this argument that the entire street and all the sidewalks were company property was used to argue this exact point, and they lost. The space was open to the general public, and was being used to share ideas, and thus was a public square with all the rights that go with it.
Youtube, twitter, facebook, are all doing what those towns did. Everybody can come in, unless we specifically decide that we don't like you specifically, based on the beliefs you are espousing on our terf. This exact fight for this exact argument has been litigated already, and we the people won. Marsh vs Alabama was the biggest one.
EDIT3 for clarity: Your tiny park with a small list of specific allowed people is fine. But that isn't analogous to social media. Instead, your park is letting everybody in by default. Then later you decide to say 'fuck mharmless, specifically, because he said stuff I hate. mharmless specifically can't come in now'. You would lose that case. You have made your park a public square and invited effectively the entire world, then tried to bar me specifically from it over constitutionally protected speech. My speech trumps your property rights if your property is a public square. Hence the central question in my mind is 'is there such a thing as a digital public square?', and if the answer is 'no', then a huge part of our democratic traditions are dead and buried going forward into this computerized future. If the answer is 'yes', then we need to do nothing more than identify what the digital version of that physical space is, and I think anybody looking at it honestly will be forced to conclude that social media is that digital analog. From there it is just a matter of applying the centuries of rules and precedent we already have.
EDIT: Adding a great analog here, parks inside of HOAs. Those parks don't belong to the government, they belong to the private HOA. And this is the exact reason they always say that the park is only open to HOA members and not the general public. As soon as such a park let the general public in, they would no longer be able to control it. That park would become a public space and the weight of legal history would make it impossible to kick out bums and drug dealers. They have to have a whitelist of allowed users, because blacklists don't cut it when trying to establish your space as a private one.
I think they are subject to the same kinds of limits a public square is. The edges of this would be tested in court, but basically if you could get away with it on a street corner you would get away with it here.
Regarding fines and such, both AOL and Compuserve were sued over this very topic RE public square status in the early 90s, and both cases sided with the companies because they charged fees to use the services. That was the argument the court went with, not the idea that they could deny whatever they wanted to whomever they wanted. Because they charged an entry fee, they were not a public square but rather a private club or service.
If facebook, youtube, or twitter started charging a small fee in order to open an account, that would be sufficient to make them not a public square. Same way that Costco has more power over their premises because they have made their store a non-public venue that charges a fee to be a member.
EDIT2: But none of those companies are going to do that, because they need the vast majority of the general public on-board so they can make their money on our data and our content and our conversations. Effectively, they are trying to harvest all the benefits of the public square and the free exchange of ideas within it, while dodging all of the obligations that go with such a space. If they added even a tiny fee, they would lose too many users and the exchange of money would give their users a whole host of other legal rights they don't want to deal with.
Leaving without going to an alternative, does no good.
Yep. People suggest moving to alt platforms just creates even more echo chambers and circle jerks. It means less exposure.
The correct thing to do is stage mass, peaceful protests at these social HQ.
What “ground”? Who the fuck cares about Twitter or YouTube?
People get directed to .win from neutral sites, politically lateral and friends.
Plus , people steal each other's ideas on here, not just memes, and also develop their own through argumentation. Then they leave here and spread them around.
Who the fuck cares what those people do?
You aren’t going to change their mind and America is already at irreconcilable differences.
Let them have their echo chamber while you go outside, read a book, go shooting, or 1 of 1000x things more productive than YouTube.
What does any of that have to do with YouTube?
Sounds more like an issue with cuckservatives not willing to man up.
You man up by walking into the enemy's territory and looking them in the eye, saying "Screw you", just like Trump did to North Korea's border.
Yeah for regular people but half the point of the show is to change minds...can't do that in an echo chamber, gotta go into enemy territory.
If you leave them to do their thing, then:
Can't go outside cuz Covid. "Right wing" books get banned (anything short of Marx seems to be right wing these days). Can't go shooting when they ban guns.
What then?
It’s not your right to expose people to the truth though.
It’s their right to seek the truth.
And if you’re telling the truth on a platform that welcomes it, people are free to seek you out and consume what you’re saying.
It’s not your right to be on platforms that don’t want you there.
They can have a kids, adult, or leftist-only business, and not welcome you. That’s their right.
“Exposing people to truth” is not your right.
Don’t fall into an echo chamber. As stupid as it is some people only get info from YouTube or Twitter. You may not but there are people who turn to those places for everything just like there are people who turn to CNN or FOX.
Story time. In 2016 I did not vote for Trump. All I was hearing was bad shit. The censorship was real even then. I didn’t vote for Hillary either because I have never fallen that far left and I at least had some idea of her being a piece of shit. I happened to see on my Google front page “Steven Crowder a Nazi” or something similar. So I looked him up on YouTube. Listened. Wasn’t my favorite but I was like “where is the Nazi shit.” So I continued to listen. That is what lead me down the rabbit hole of “Oh shit they are flat lying about Trump what else are they lying about.” Which lead me to r/conservative which lead me to r/T_D which lead me here after it was run off the site. It lead me to physically campaigning for a guy (Trump) and getting politically involved for the first time ever. If it wasn’t for a Twitter article that lead me to YouTube I probably wouldn’t be here.
The irony being that YouTube actually works very hard to put you in an echo chamber.
You should. These are popular platforms where people go to exchange ideas and form their political beliefs (whether that's a good thing or not is irrelevant). If one political side is hidden from view, it dies.
hundreds of millions if not billions of people
any other competing platform currently offers a minuscule fraction of the potential audience
to completely abandon youtube before alternatives can grow to compete would be pretty foolish
valid criticism might be that you think people like Crowder have the clout to help grow another platform and aren't currently doing enough to help that growth, but in the here and now, completely ditching youtube out of principle doesn't make sense if the goal is to keep spreading the non-fake news to as many people as possible
Apparently every large corporation and entity in the us.
Average joes dont care but the people who control and push narratives do.
Thick as a brick.
The good old appeal to hypocrisy fallacy. You're using it. It has zero bearing on the argument he is making. Feel free to actually address what Crowder was talking about.
Dependent on the revenue and still wants to "win" a fight with companies who can moneywhip him into oblivion. He's strengthening his overlords and then pontificating after they knock his ass out with one punch.
he's been demonitized for years.. so he gets no money from youtube. Only viewers and potential sign ups, if you count that. But Its important to have content on youtube for easy sharing to normies.
What your top reply said
But also..he has mug club which is not on YT but Blaze, his shows are there
It's like all you doomers read from the same script
Salty is gone. Crowder is gone.Guess YouTube is full of time wasting BS now.
Just waiting untill they target Anthony Brian Logan, HodgeTwins, BTatum, etc...
After B Tatum said “look into building 7” I was surprised YouTube didn’t yeet him then
They have certain skin deep plot armor right now...
Legit talented content creators on youtube, are being phased out and replaced with useless trash who don't create anything, like commentary channels and streamers wanting losers to watch them play video games. How fucking simple and boring do people have to be to spend hours of their lives watching someone else have fun or spew ignorant nonsense while also giving them money to do it. Civ is on the brink of collapse right now thanks to leftism.
The big content creators bring in less money, and lose YT a lot more money, than BigAd.
BigAd is all in now with YT, has been for a while. It's the new TV. There are people who only watch YT (my sister), and that's the biggest, juiciest market for ad buys.
Google is pretty much done positioning YT as a TV network, and are transitioning to the same nonsense and censoring that the networks do, to control the content and not drive YT ad buyers away. Game streamers? Harmless - but they can't say certain words, or they're banned. You can say "fuck" - but don't you dare say "rape". And it wasn't that long ago they were actually warning content creators to not use the word "covid".
Of all the tech companies, Google is the most evil. They make Facebook look like amateurs. They own the internet. They own internet advertising. They own internet marketing. If you want to get anywhere online, on a web browser, you have to suck some Google dick. (unless you're not trying to make money, like this site)
Web's gotta evolve. We need a new Web standard that Google doesn't have locked down. I'm not holding my breath, but it's the #1 way they track/control people.
You can still fuck over youtube by installing ublock origin. It blocks ALL ads on youtube. Get everyone you know to install it.
ESPN has entered the chat.
For the record, I agree with you but it's not without precedent.
It's more like hanging off a cliff holding on by a finger and leftism is gnawing at the finger.
i will never understand why anyone would watch anyone else play a video game on the internet.
I've watched people play video games but it is like a tournament or some pro player that has god-like skills. I agree though your average person on twitch or youtube is boring as shit. Dr Disrepsect is pretty funny though. No doubt he is MAGA.
The only appeal I see is when someone does a record-breaking speedrun. There's almost an art to it. Other than that, it's almost entirely e-thots and boring dudes.
Wait what?? What happened to Salty :(
I don't know what happened but I noticed he wasn't uploading to youtube lately however I see he's active on odysee so we can catch him there: https://odysee.com/@SaltyCracker:a
PoliceActivity is one of the few based and redpilled channels on YouTube allowed to post completely uncensored videos of what cops have to deal with on a daily basis
Salty gone?
They banned him for a week, demonitized his channel(s) for "Presidential Election Integrity" policy. In the 2nd Nevada video, but didn't say what was against the policy.
Crowder showed addresses of people who voted, and the address didn't exist. Crowder had people drive and show the addresses didn't exit.
He never claimed the election was stolen or massive fraud, so he would be ok by their shitty policy. So they ban him under the policy and wont say what in the policy he broke.
They know we know the election was stolen. They gotta suppress that info even if it's in a ham-fisted, obvious manner
The fact that they won’t even let people say the election was stolen would have been considered insane five years ago. They had NO problem letting people say Trump stole it in 2016.
FUCK THESE EVIL PEOPLE.
I subscribed to Mug Club this morning so I could watch Bill Richmond's message. I'll even pay full price, just because he's worth it.
Crowder is the "Canary in the Coal Mine". He will get back on Youtube after threatening legal action, but just 2 days ago the heads of Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube met with congress where they where urged to be more restrictive with content. They immediately went after Crowder.
The reality is this week/weekend, the left has something major they are going to attempt to pull off, and they need voices like Salty Cracker and Crowder to be silenced first so their base in confused. Its engineered reaction. The government will do something absolutely tyrannical in the next week and these voices will be the ones that enable an action plan to fight against it.
Counterpoint. It's a false-flag. Nothing will happen and life goes on. The suspensions get lifted and then re-applied a few weeks/months later. This goes on for a while until they're eventually booted entirely.
THEN the major shit happens.
Youtube is turning into cable TV. It sucks nuts now.
For those of us that were wondering what was happening this morning on mugclub because you are not paid, this was played for the final 7 minutes after Half Asian Lawyer Bill Richmond and Dave Landau were done giving an update.
Secondly, some of you were reluctant to pay for MugClub. It is a wonderful deal. It gives you not only all of Crowder, but you also get all of The Blaze content including Mark Levine. Just something for you to think about.
Alex jones built a media empire and never forced anyone to pay a dime to watch or listen to 100% of his content since, like, the 90's. So there's that.
I love Jones, but he is a bit crazy. I was watching banned.video for capital stuff live for a few days, but that empire lost luster quickly and there was a lot of content that was a bit too far out there even for me. Crowder makes clown world funny and bearable.
Seriously. I gave Alex a few token purchases of shit I would have bought anyway somewhere else, but he goes off the rails way too often.
I like how he brings in topics nobody else will even when some of it may turn out false in the end, but he goes 100% emotional investment in everything. It makes things entertaining, but when he actually finds something genuinely concerning to an average viewer you can't decipher the signal from the noise. He's like the mainstream media of conspiracy news - everything is blown out of proportion and very little effort is taken to find plausible explanations that might discount it.
I always thought Jones was crazy - but years ago he built infowars.com - and here we are in an information war. Those who control the means of information (not production anymore) hold the power. Much of what he said years ago is coming to light now.
Don’t underestimate that crazy SOB.
I would also recommend censored.tv - Gavin Mccinnes is hilarious and redpilled. He also has a podcast.
Jones is crazy for sure and a lot of what he says is BS but deep down, he is 100% patriot and his audience is 100% patriots too so I get him my utmost respect in that regard. The more people we have on our side, the better. I don't give a fuck if they're crazy. In fact, the crazier they are, the better because when the shit starts going down you want those crazy animalistic mother fuckers on your side lmao.
Because he wasn't nearly as big as Crowder and bo one would have paid for a subscription.
I would have signed up to support Mug Club long ago, were it not for the Blaze/Beck connection. I hear how Beck has changed his tone, but he's changed his tone before just to change it right back when the wind shifts. I just don't trust him, and don't want a penny of my money finding it's way into his pockets.
I think Glenn Beck would be over the moon if Mitt Romney were President, and the Republican party went back to being the party of Bushes and McCains.
I agree. I see Blaze doing a lot of lazy articles with just as much click-bate as MSM it's just in the other direction. I don't appreciate their methods .
I paid a week or so ago when YT age-restricted a vid for no reason.
To fight Cancel Culture, you've got to put up when the Marxists are trying to shut someone up.
Yes sir. Spend your time and money propping up those that you agree with and believe in. Stoping buying Marvel and buy indie comics. Stop going to the movies and watch Run, Hide, Fight from Daily Wire. Watch your favorite youtubers on their alternate platforms if they have it. There are new and rising things we can do to fill our media intake we just need to take the time to try new things.
I can't with any semblance of a heart or conscience send a single penny to
GLENN fucking BECK
This right here is the reason I never took the plunge either. I'd happily pay the full price if I knew every last cent was going to Crowder and his crew.
Reasonable. I certainly get it. Still better than letting big tech win. I get it though. Beck fucked up REAL hard...he bent the knee though enough for me.
He's 100% a gatekeeper. A limp wristed pseudopatriot who attracts other limp wristed pseudopatriots.
Glenn Beck is a RINO cuck sellout.
This was basically my cancellation notice back in the day, after the... merger?
Still better than Lil Ben, but only just.
About time. Unironically get on a real platform.
I feel like he's pandering to the left and begging for YouTube to bring them back by saying crap like "I didn't say Donald Trump won the election" - So disappointed. Sad.
Or, he's making a very specific criticism about a very specific issue and you're avoiding a discussion about that.
Crowder has a lawyer because he reviews what he is going to say before each show with him to make sure it doesn't violate youtube policy . All he was pointing out was that the show did not violate youtube policy.
And fuck YouTube - when my toddler’s watching cartoons all of a sudden a degenerate Nike ad with trannies takes over the screen.
Agreed. BUT if they are gonna watch YouTube (mine does too - no judgment from my statement) you should install YouTube kids app. They kid less commercials and are age appropriate and less woke for sure. Just some motherly advice from a trumpette.
Don't let kids on youtube, period. There is porn and shit on there and even pedo videos (I'm not kidding). Some guy made a video awhile back showing how it works and he confirmed it was true.
Get an ad blocker bro
On a Fire Stick?
youtube is cracking down heavy on truth talk. Salty Cracker is in a 2 week - or was it one week - time out right now. They took down a double handful of his vids, some of them his 2 hour live streams from weeks back, with the usual "community standards violations" crap.
Salty was demonetized on YT quite a while back but he keeps streaming there to, as he says, yank people off and get them to the new platforms of rumble, bitchute and odysee so eventually they can just quit YT. I really like odysee and watch after the streams are posted. Odysee is working with Salty to get their live streaming going. Growing pains.
So, yeah. Fight them on their own channel, grow the audience and get them to follow over to new places that believe in freedom. Looking forward to seeing exactly what Mike Lindell has brewing!
Those fuckin fuckballs at YouTube. They delete everything. I love Louder with Crowder. Guess it’s time to join the mug club.
Under no circumstances should we be leaving these platforms. If anything, we should be making 2 accounts for every account they silence. Invade their safe spaces, swarm their comment sections. We are problematic and we should be a problem.
Shor-term, sure but that is ultimately futile. Long-term, we need to migrate off those platforms where we can't be censored and then grow those communities from there. It takes work is why most just want to stay on youtube and complain on twitter or some shit.
The problem I see with alternative platforms is they always follow the same game plan. They push us out of the public forum and then label whatever means we develope to communicate as hate groups. Gab is a platform for white nationalists. Parler is a platform for conservative conspiracy hate groups. TDW/Patriots is a site full of terrorists/cyber criminals/hackers/hateful frrog merchants/etc.
When we abandon the public forum, we allow them to form uncontested echo chambers.
Yup but they're going to keep calling us that and honestly, let them, because the more they say it the more pointless it will become.
But he expected to be monetized. Truth bomb the enemy on their own turf? Sure. But expect them to send money your way? Yeah, maybe not.
Also, whatever you do support Rumble and Odessy.
I don't really know what Crowder was expecting to happen. You don't get have your cake and eat it, too. You poke the dog, the dog is going to bite, not send you a paycheck.
Incoming all the “converted” Reddit Bernie bros who hopped on a populist Trump bandwagon, but will show the hate anyone truly conservative.
Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Crowder, etc. All are suddenly “cucks” “faggots” and “pussies”. A zebra can’t hide it’s stripes.
Frankly surprised it took them this long considering how effective those "Change my mind" episodes were in making people actually think.
Crowder is overrated and a fool to stay on YouTube.
Gavin McInnes is on nearly his second year of censored.tv which hosts its own videos. He actually has a platform for other people that have been censored by YouTube.
Support someone actually supporting free speech instead of financing Crowder's lawsuits and himself. You don't get a mug, but you get better content.
Odysee!!!!!
So now I won't need to go far to find my 2 favorite streamers.
Salty Cracker and Crowder
Odysee can be slow as shits shit sometimes but at least it's not censored
You know what the SEC is doing to Lbry and Oddysee don't you?
https://reclaimthenet.org/sec-sues-lbry-cryptocurrency/
Suspended
When does this end? Does every known internet commentator need to run to a subscription service, have their opinions locked behind a paywall, before we start to see free speech on the internet again?
And everyone has to have in-video ads for my pillow and birch gold group, sigh.
Tortious Interference lawsuit incoming for utube?
I hate how he's said multiple times that they can't allege that there was widespread fraud, or the DJT won - yes you fucking can.
He has to avoid giving them fodder to kick him off completely.
Could he just go to mugclub only? Yes, but then its hard to grow is brand or get the message out.
Could he go to bitchute? Yes, i would love to see him promote bitchute like Styx does.
But youtube/big tech s an actual political threat to american values. He has chosen this as his hill to die on. I support him for it.
The whole situation is ridiculous and tiring. This is America. The demoralization i feel is real.
I realize why he does it, but, to us, he is pretty much straight up lying, no? We all know they cheated, he even has evidence himself. I dunno, it's just grating to listen to. I guess I'll have to accept it if it informs even a single normie.
I agree, im sick of self censorship. It demoralizes me to hear.
I wish mug club was just completely unleashed honest content and uncensored jokes rather than a mirror of youtube content.
I can see Dave Landau swallowing 'inappropruate' jokes every episode I'd like to enjoy.
He's one, though.
He always complains about this. Why is he surprised? Stop supporting the enemy
We can't retreat from every battle.
This isn't just about playing videos on youtube. This is a fight against big tech for American values.
Building our own platforms is a libertarian ideal, but it has proven a failure, and doesn't do anything to conserve american values. Any platform can be infiltrated and turned against us if we don't fight for traditional American values.
Time to add a new platform. Boycotts are our only recourse.
They will infiltrate destroy our alternatives.
They will destroy them with the corrupt legal system.
They will take down our hosting, our isp, our advertisements.
They will turn conservatives into second class citizens. They will make us grovel and apologize for our thoughts.
At best we will end up with a parallel society. 1 country 2 systems like hong kong.
Where does it end? Apparently someone decided everyone is going to be an obedient Democrat from now on and that conservatism no longer exists.
nobody gives a shit. keep talking shit on alex jones.
bunch of cuck faggots
Now YouTube even removed THIS video...
Can we stop pretending this isn’t going to happen to every single conservative voice public and private so we can move the ball forward. We are way past outage and shock. This isn’t a new story and frankly i don’t give a shit about m.i.a. Crowder. When they conspired to steal the election from Trump we should have all turned a corner. Complaining about censorship now is just going backwards
Ya you're a pussy crowder. "We've never alleged Trump won." This is what you get for self censoring and playing their games, faggot.
Nobody gives a shit if you scream that Trump won. Anyone who agrees with it won't cause anything to change and the people who are needed will disregard it as toting the party line.
Seriously, go scream Trump won and see if it does anything? It doesn't do shit.
You want to win, you have to hold people's feet to the fire and make them PROVE you wrong. That's literally Crowder's whole schtick because he's better than you and all the fucktards that just scream Trump won without realizing no one is listening.
Self censoring? Pussy? Faggot? He proved voter fraud and is taking facebook to court. What the fuck have you done? Scream Trump won? You're a coward.
Trump Won
Great, now come to the realization that saying Trump won on a forum means literally jack shit.
Right now, I am accusing you of being nothing more than a poser. I'm accusing you of being just as bad as the RINO's who bark like dogs behind a fence. Once the fence is gone, you cower in fear. That's what you are.
What are you going to do about it?
Oh really? Tell us, Where is the investigative work YOU have done to try to prove the election was actually fraud ridden? Show Us how you were able to ignore the Bullshit rules that Youtube has in place while Crowder has to tip toe around the shit.
Yep, that's where I lost any sympathy I might've had for his situation. f he wants to stay on youtube and not speak the truth, I won't be there for him.
He's playing the long legal game that actually might get some precedent established while you whine.
NEVER APOLOGIZE TO COMMIES!!!
The left can pitch election interference by saying Russia rigged the 2016 elections, but we cannot say the election was stolen from DJT.
Burn YouTube to the ground.
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
Isn't this like the 4th or 5th Adpocalypse?
President Trump's new free speech platform can't arrive soon enough!
I've never watched you on YouTube anyway, I joined mug club a long time ago! YouTube is asshole. Trump won by a lot, covid is a hoax and the vaccine is not a vaccine.
The Blaze app still kinda stinks.
The one advantage of not being on youtube at all is maybe people could stop having to self sensor. Its so exhausting to listen to.
Google is run by immigrants who arrived here a few years ago and want to destroy our society.
Should be anti mask,
They deleted this video from CrowderBits. Its still on the Hodge Twins channel
Welcome to Weimar America.
Post this 2hrs ago. /shrug
We need to organize a YouTube boycott.
Mug clubber here. Crowder needs our support. Go and subscribe today. #fightlikehell
I'm not giving Beck any money.
What’s wrong with Beck? I don’t watch him.
If Crowder and Salty were banned 4 weeks apart I’d say “yep, the tide of censorship” but two huge movers like that, so close together makes me worried something big about to happen and they want complete silence.
George floyd riots followed by healing with our new president kamala and her gun seizures.
Well this is the final straw. Its going to be a boring next few months while I try to find some where to watch stuff. I said when they ban crowder and tim pool I was done.
Tim is still up but there other platforms.
Bitchute, Here I come!!!
Saltycracker and styxhexenhammer have been on Odysee for a while now. Mark dice and paint the Trump have been on rumble a while now. I stopped YouTube months ago, it is evil now.
It is but ease of access plus, being able to watch things unrelated to politics is nice. There's not alot of non-political stuff on those other sites because Youtube is specifically banning one thing so non-political creators don't have a reason to leave.
When liberals socialists have their world view challenged and the result in them feeling like their world view doesn't make sense for half a second, their first response, get mad and silence the challenger.
Well, I joined. Wasn't really thinking about it, but I love a good fight. :0)
They seem to knock people off just as they are gaining momentum.
can you stream to Rambler?
You are one of the faces of this fight against big tech! I will support you wherever you go!
Tim Cast, Ben Shapiro and others should boycott youtube with their fans!
Third topic - global warming