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Drewniverse 9 points ago +10 / -1

You need to focus more on scientific facts. I tell people this is not a vaccine, this is gene therapy. When they ask why I explain a vaccine is a modified virus. Gene therapy is modified nucleic acids that physically change your RNA.

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Elvathelion [S] 15 points ago +15 / -0

Yes, but if it was purely facts that people responded to it would not have progressed so far down this current road.

I thought as long ago as March of last year that this was a gross exaggeration of a pandemic, everything pointed to it even at that time.

Videos of empty ER's, historically baseless predictions and witness accounts of highly suspect medical statistics...and so on.

And, yes - it would be nice if facts won the day - but I'd be satisfied with just gut instinct and commonsense - because ultimately that's largely how you survive in life.

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Drewniverse 8 points ago +8 / -0

My wife and I just discussed that. Her gut instinct is we can get fucked over. She just convinced her parents to cancel their appointment. Small steps.

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TheLooker 2 points ago +3 / -1

Okay so there’s actually a few different types of vaccine and only two of them actually contain whole viruses, these are the live/attenuated and Killed/inactive types. The smallpox and MMR vaccines are an example of the first, while polio and hepatitis a vaccines are an example of the second.

Both contain actual viral bodies that have been modified, as you said, to be weak enough to not cause illness but also strong enough to provoke the immune response that leads to immunization. The current COVID vaccines are neither of these and don’t contain the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

The major COVID vaccines available in the US are all a third type of vaccine, the subunit/conjugate type. These have various ways of introducing a piece of a virus to the body to begin the immune response we seek and specifically for COVID vaccines, they use mRNA.

The messenger RNA is absorbed by immune cells which “read” the message contained and manufacture a very specific protein found on the surface of the coronavirus called the spike protein. Our bodies then identify this new protein as a invader and start practicing its immune response which will allow them to destroy any future contact with the COVID virus.

Once the mRNA has been read it’s destroyed by the cell after never even making it to the nucleus(where the DNA is stored). Gene therapy uses similar tactics with the ultimate goal of introducing, removing, or changing your genetic information (DNA & RNA). This cannot be accomplished by mRNA or mRNA vaccines.

Why in the fuck would you start your point off with “scientific facts” and then go on to demonstrate a TOTAL lack of any scientific knowledge on the subject? It’d be funny how stupid you are if you hadn’t admitted to spreading your bullshit to other morons.

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Clownworld69 2 points ago +3 / -1

Jesus, thank you. I'm so sick of people stating that the vaccine "changes your DNA" as if it's a fact. Be skeptical, sure, but this smug stating of "facts" that are literally false is so fucking annoying and makes everyone here look like a bunch of morons.

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TodayTomorrowYesterd 1 point ago +1 / -0

All you have to do is read the manufacturers' fact sheets. They are pubic knowledge and available for reading. Btw, look up ADE and the two types of antibodies. If you are lucky, you'll get the neutralizing one, if you're unlucky, and get the binding one, then you are f****.

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Drewniverse 0 points ago +1 / -1

I don't need to explain myself to you but since you're being such a cocksucker about it... That was the attenuated version because I was on mobile. Maybe if I had time to type all that out instead of having a job with a few minutes to take a break, I would have.

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TheLooker 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also on mobile and If you had more time you would’ve typed a longer comment filled with bullshit? Good to know, do the world a favor and when anyone is talking about a scientific matter just shut the fuck up you clown