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webthing -18 points ago +1 / -19

Wrong.

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Sdollar456 16 points ago +16 / -0

Good argument dipshit

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SHALL_NOT 9 points ago +9 / -0

The actual argument is that a hate crime has a worse effect on the community as a whole. The enhancement isn’t for the murdered person, it’s for the social fabric. A robbery gone wrong makes people nervous to go out at night, a proper hate crime makes everyone nervous and distrustful in a multiculti community.

The hitch is that white folks arent exactly running around in the middle of the night pouring bleach on people on their way home from subway and trying to hang them with twine. Almost all hate crimes are done by black people and never get tried as such. Tough to find a group of white people kidnapping a handicapped black person and live-streaming the torture, or chanting kill blackie, or saying on Twatter how black people should all be killed for the alleged crimes of long dead people who share a hue.

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touchmystuffIkillyou 1 point ago +1 / -0

A robbery gone wrong makes people nervous to go out at night, a proper hate crime makes everyone nervous and distrustful in a multiculti community.

I still don't see the juxtaposition in the argument. A robbery gone wrong makes everyone nervous and distrustful in any community. A crime of passion murder makes everyone nervous and distrustful of dating in any community. Etc, etc.. They all create some damage to the social fabric. Labelling hate crimes insinuates that this particular damage is more punishable. For what reason? Otherwise, it amounts to little more than virtue signaling to appease mob sensitivities. And it has the inherent danger of inferring a special crime, based on the races of the victim and perp, if abused in courts. The law should be structurally and culturally color blind.

Moreover, crimes against "the social fabric" are not clear and subject to wild opinion. Whereas actions and damage by and against individuals are more concrete.