Based on the other conversation in this thread, I think the difference between tribes and nations is just size, as you imply.
The point I should be making then is that tribes lead to nations. You get a nation when tribes join other tribes. You need tribalism to be successful as a tribe. If you are weak and do not have strong unity within your tribe, you will be conquered.
We're past that bullshit now though, at least we should be.
what's the difference between nationalism and tribalism?
Nations can contain many tribes. Can tribes contain many tribes?
interesting point
Based on the other conversation in this thread, I think the difference between tribes and nations is just size, as you imply.
The point I should be making then is that tribes lead to nations. You get a nation when tribes join other tribes. You need tribalism to be successful as a tribe. If you are weak and do not have strong unity within your tribe, you will be conquered.
We're past that bullshit now though, at least we should be.
Tribalism is division. Nationalism is unity
would tribalism not have unity within the tribe?
Tribes are smaller than nations. Fuck tribes and tribalism.
tribalism leads to nationalism
tribes who are strong enter alliances with other tribes or take over other tribes and create a nation
However, tribalism is more violent and dangerous, because tribes are smaller than nations.
Once a nation is created, then it can become more stable and civilized. That's my theory at least. Kinda spitballing at this point
Nationalism is both tribalistic and a bond of unity.