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marishiten 1 point ago +1 / -0

But one particular passage on plans for the internet specifically states that the government will lift all the bans on the government making the internet, while at the same time giving massive government grants to public companies to make an "even" playing field for government-owned internet.

Wh-What? The government doesn't "make" the internet. It can regulate the ISP's through the FCC since they're a utility and it should stay that way. Is this him trying to force through net neutrality again? I don't understand.

There is no "Government owned internet". You can't "own" the internet. It's not something that can be owned.

resident Biden’s plan will promote price transparency and competition among internet providers, including by lifting barriers that prevent municipally-owned or affiliated providers and rural electric co-ops from competing on an even playing field with private providers, and requiring internet providers to clearly disclose the prices they charge.

Okay. This makes more sense. But pricing for service is already transparent. They send you a bill. The bill says how much you owe. You pay it. The end.

Now. This COULD be in terms of actual interconnect. Let's say that you live in the sticks, but you want FTTP (Fiber to the premises). Most of the time, if you called the ISP that offers fucking 56k dialup and asked for pricing on how much it would cost, they wouldn't even talk to you. Because the cost of them running the fiber, trenching it, running conduit, getting the permits, getting the approval from the city/town, tearing up sidewalk/whatever would cost so much money that it's not worth it to the ISP to actually do it, so they don't bother. A lot of the time, an ISP will only run fiber in new developments. Not for existing ones. Because they don't want to fight with the city to get permits and the ROI isn't worth the initial investment.

But I don't understand this delineation of "Private". The Government doesn't own any fiber/copper. It's ALL private. There are no government owned backbones or hubs.

While the President recognizes that individual subsidies to cover internet costs may be needed in the short term, he believes continually providing subsidies to cover the cost of overpriced internet service is not the right long-term solution for consumers or taxpayers. Americans pay too much for the internet – much more than people in many other countries – and the President is committed to working with Congress to find a solution to reduce internet prices for all Americans, increase adoption in both rural and urban areas, hold providers accountable, and save taxpayer money.

This ... isn't the problem that people face. This is how out of touch they are. The ROOT problem is cities making deals with ISP's to be the only ISP in the city itself and establishing themselves as a "Controlled Monopoly". Then they charge whatever they want. Instead of telling them to charge less, you take away their Monopoly power by making it so they can't sue other ISPs that want to start laying down fiber in the area. For example, in my area, we have two options: Sparklight and CenturyLink. About 10 years ago, Google Fiber wanted to install in my city, well, Sparklight and CenturyLink didn't like that so they jointly sued Google to get an injunction on their permits so they couldn't install. And they won their lawsuit and Google couldn't install. They sued because they don't want competition.

You stop the monopolistic tactics and encourage startup ISP companies with subsidies and fast tracking for permits and you'll solve the pricing thing literally overnight. Because it'll make the "Establishment" ISP compete by lowering their pricing.

But this whole "Government Owned Internet" thing makes no sense in this article. The Government doesn't own the internet. They don't control the internet. So I don't know what they're trying to say