Is he a perfect embodiment of our movement? No. Does he unfairly criticize Trump at times in a very leftist manner? Yes and I hate it. Does he believe the election was stolen despite mountains of evidence? No and I hate that too.
But is he correct on issues the vast majority of the time? Yes. Is he slowly amassing a giant conservative entertainment media conglomerate to finally fight against the left wing media base? Yes. Is he redpilling people left and right while regularly shitting savagely on leftists? Hell yes.
I get that Shapiro isn’t the 100% America First media mogul we need. But he’s damn close and I feel like making him out as a “leftist ally” and “enemy” is a step too far.
I hear you and mostly agree but my overall point is that the good he does for our movement far outweighs the bad. That’s my only point.
He keeps us divided are critical points that are hurting the country. Would we be better off without Shapiro? Probably not. He does help red-pill but we have many Shapiros out there now.
I keep hearing iterations of "give him a break because mUh rEd pILlS". Ive never been offered evidence that anyone who claims Benji red pilled them wouldn't have been red pilled by someone else whose red pills didn't include so much poison. Bottom line every pied piper has to dispense enough perceived "red pills" to gain the trust of their prey. Its the poison content that's key and the lethality of the poison. In my assessment, Benji is a well paid, carefully groomed assassin. Candy red pills do not distract me from the many poison pills he's peddled over a long period of time. Its puzzling to read comments that seem so blaise about his lethality.
That's the gold standard, now? "His good outweighs his bad"? Pathetic, if true.
Isn't that the case for literally everyone? Nobody is purely good. Everyone, including Trump, has their faults. Unless you're advocating for an authoritarian regime, we're always going to need to look for the folks who bring a net positive.
What do your comments have to do with Benji? Sincerely question. How do you determine when "moving in the same direction" indicates a safe ally? Even mortal foes strategically move in the same direction to more effectively defeat/kill you. All of the time. So your suggestion that's a valid criteria to use perhaps deserves more reflection? Liz Cheney? Kinzinger? RINOs? Romney? Genuinely puzzled. Perhaps ponder more?
Benji does not offer a net positive unless you're scoring from Cult Deaths perspective.
I mean he can argue circles around clueless college that regurgitate propaganda like a champ....
Fan bois clap. No one else is persuaded. Performative cruelty and humiliation "entertainment" for nerds. Guilt free. Participation proves superior smarts and higher principles. Benji said so and his wife's a doctor and he's super smart and oh yeah, he went to Harvard so I beLIEve him. Sigh.
Since nobody on earth is perfect, I’d say that’s everyone’s gold standard.
Yea Hillary? Welcome Joe? Howdy Harris? Nobody is perfect so everyone gets a pass? Whew, the strain of making critical evaluations and judgments narrowly averted. Thank God for platitudes.
You should be able to disagree with someone and not write them off entirely. The right is not the left and should encourage debate and not be tempted to shut people up who say things we don't like.
I didn't say that I'd write him off entirely. You did.
I didn't say that he should shut up. You did.
By the way, the commies are now firmly in control of this county and it's culture. Yet you say we should continue to "encourage debate." How's that been working out for us?
You said it is "pathetic" to say "his good outweighs the bad". How else could you possibly interpret that other than the only thing that is not pathetic is being "good" 100% of the time?
I would ask you how well quashing other peoples' opinions worked out when this site mass downvoted people who criticized the hopium. If you want to get into a roid rage and sabre rattle be my guest. Ben Shapiro has been way more effective at growing the conservative movement than 99% of people have been.
Writing him off completely is prudent. For many reasons. Shut him up? Nope. Stormfags, commies, Benjis all need more exposure of their poison, not less.
How nice to hear you are open to Hillary. And Obama. And soooo many others. For what its worth I don't bother with Benji after doing lengthy research on him icluding watching shows/reading articles. He has ZERO to offer that's of any value or I can't get from someone else with far greater intelligence, experience, education, wit and/or charisma. Plus he includes toxic disinformation constantly. I can not trust him. Why anyone wastes any time on him with so much going on and so many authentic options is a mystery. A frightening one.
Hillary and Obama's bad far outweigh their good. This is liberal-tier logic right here to assume that because I support not canceling Ben that I support Hillary.
Double speak inversion of reality.
"Our movement"? What movement is that? If you're referring to Trumps vision and the MAGA movement then Benji is an existential threat to both Trump and MAGA. Has been for years. Benjis was left behind enemy lines where he could do maximum damage when more senior operatives were unmasked, lost their followers and influence in conservative normie world and migrated to Democrat World where they could inflict damage as MSM " conservative " talking heads. Think Bill Kristol, Max Boot, French. Jennifer Rubin.
Benji, being second string, wasn't as publically damaged during the "conservative" battle to destroy Trump and elect Hillary. This allowed him to stay behind enemy lines, rehab his reputation and retain influence with "muh Trump did this good thing bUt..." Mind poisoning marketed as being objective. WeRe nOt a cUlT gUyS. WeRe tOo sMaRt aNd pRiNvIpLeD tO bE bLiNd fOlLoWeRs oR cUlTiSts lIkE TrUmPs MAGA BrOs. Accepting then parroting disinformation marketed as proof of superior intelligence and principled virtue. Lmao. Clever. Evil. Effective.