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Jon888 3 points ago +3 / -0

Phizer / Moderna don't have any of those, like you said your own cells make them. It's a drug that gets your own cells to do the work. Most vaccines like you said, are the contagion or part of the contagion. Those 2 in particular don't have any elements of the contagion, it's purely a new type of drug. And vaccines are classified differently than drugs.

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BasedDoc 1 point ago +2 / -1

These are really just semantics. The end result is the same.

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Jon888 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes one is a drug that mirrors the results of a vaccine and the others are vaccines. But we know the risks of normal vaccines, which are detracting reactions to the ingredients in the medium in which the vaccines are administered, can be NO WORSE than getting the disease itself, because its main component is the contagion itself. With these new "vaccines" we have no idea what a worst case scenario could be. Could a problem in the manufacturing of this drug cause your cells to make a prion (malformed self replicating protein), or could your cells do that normally? I don't know, can anyone?

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BasedDoc 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, no we don't. And that's my overriding concern. That's why I'm personally waiting before I decide whether or not to get it. But this drug meets the definition of a vaccine. That doesn't mean it's necessarily safe. We just don't know the long term effects yet.