My mom continued to be with my abuser after she found out. She ended up sobbing and asking for forgiveness years later. I don’t hate her but she will never have my love ever again. And when she dies, I’ll shrug my shoulders and probably go eat a sandwich or something.
Sorry. I'm sorry that you weren't protected as a child.
My parents dumped me and my brother off with a pedo. I had to protect my little brother from him. Fortunately, I was old enough to counter his advances and threaten him with going to authorities.
This is another reason why single parenthood is so bad, and we should get back to condemning sex before marriage and make it more difficult to get divorced.
Step fathers are always potential threats to young girls.
Also, the corporate fake news media loves to accuse Catholic priests of pedophilia, but sexual assaults are much more commonplace in government public schools and in Hollywood culture.
She was probably abused as a kid too. This does NOT excuse what she did. My mother was in the same situation, but I can’t forgive her.
We make choices. I chose not to have kids and I chose not to ever abuse anyone, despite multigenerational incest in my family. It’s horrifying. Both my parents should be in jail. My father just kept quiet and covered everything up. My abuser was primarily my grandfather and he was a cop. NYPD had a pedo ring.
She never said but I can tell you she was incredibly dependent on being with a man. She was and is a terrible excuse for a parent. Without Jesus Christ in my life, I don’t know how I’d manage to get through each day.
A friend's family had a similar story when I was a teen. Mom's new boyfriend molested her 12 yo daughter. Mom stayed with the guy afterwards (don't remember if she was just in denial or what the reason was.)
The molesting asshole ended up in prison, the girl's father got full custody and the mom was ostracized by pretty much everyone.
God @NoMoRedditYo - I'm so sorry that happened. I don't get it. But so many people feel if they ignore something or pretend it isn't happening that it will just go away or right itself.
Best advice I ever heard a Therapist give to a friend who had been in your situation: "Look around you at the weak people, the dumbasses, and cowards in your school. Now realize one day they will be parents. Ask yourself if those people would know what to do in your situation. The answer is probably "no" - or even "hell no!" Some people are born cowards and have spent their lives avoiding taking action or taking responsibility. You were unlucky enough to be born from one of those. Not your fault. So... what can you do? Keep aching? Or make a determination here and now not to be like that. We become who we are in spite of or because of our parents. You now have a choice to Parent Yourself. It sounds weird, but it works. Go into meditation. Imagine you are a parent holding you as a baby. Talk to the baby. Love it. Ask for forgiveness for not knowing what to do. Hug that baby and promise from today on you will protect them and help them heal."
I never forgot that. I helped my friend go through a meditation process like that. I could see the difference in her face within moments. Take your power and use it in a good way. Then swear you won't let what happened to you happen to anyone else if there is any way possible.
I don't think it matters if it's your son or daughter you'd feel the same way as a parent. Just because you have a girl would not make it worse than if you had a boy.
Yeah, sure. I don't disagree, but that's not the point I'm making.
We're not talking about how you would feel if it happened, we're talking about the feeling you have thinking about it now, fearing it might happen.
As a parent of every known gender, I can say my fears for one gender differs from the fear I have for the other. For instance, in my mind, it's much more likely for a boy to break a leg playing sports than it is for him to be raped by a man. Now, maybe that's an accurate opinion, maybe it's not. Doesn't matter, it's not the point. The vast majority of people worry differently for different people in their lives.
So when someone says "killing someone who rapes your daughter is unreasonable" I must assume it's because they either don't have kids at all, or have only boys, and therefore they can't really imagine that actually happening to their sons the way one might fear it happening to their daughter. So they conflate their perceived likelihood of it happening to their son with the severity of the stated reaction -or more simple they can't really envision it, so the statement about killing a rapist seems extreme.
In either case, addressing them as daughterless is appropriate.
In my opinion, if you're a father who wouldn't at least consider killing your daughters rapist? You don't really love your daughter. Sure, same for a son. But until it happens, I'm more concerned about him wrecking his motorcycle, dig?
Ignore this glowie. Xer entire post history is stereotypical glowie trash calling people here cowards for not committing violence. Look how many of this phony's posts are deleted by the mods. For some reason they won't ban xer.
Not really. Lethal force is only justified to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to a human being.
So it's entirely understandable to want to kill someone for committing that kind of act but it's not justifiable unless you killed the guy while he was commiting the act.
Edit: you all can downvote me all you want but all this "I don't understand how someone could NOT murder a child molester!" shit seriously sounds like a bunch of white knighting. Murder is not an acceptable response to any heinous crime.
You and people like you represent a danger to society that is nearly on par with the pedophiles
Why becuase I don't support people taking the law into their own hands especially when it involves taking a life? That kind of shit will only lead to innocent people being murdered. There is a reason the founding fathers made the system for convicting someone of a crime difficult. You don't get to become judge, jury and executionor just because the crime committed is truly evil.
Lemme guess: you think the primary function of prison is rehabilitation lol.
No, the primary function is clearly punishment, but unless the person is sentenced to life in prison then the primary function should be rehabilitation, and the secondary function should be punishment.
If we intend to let someone out of prison, we should take steps to insure they won't return the the life that led them to prison in the first place.
It's not socially acceptable but it's very much understandable, in fact I understand it better than not wanting to get vengeance. If someone did that to a family member I'd want to brain them with a hammer.
With a functioning justice system I agree, vigilante justice is not the way to go, but the current system seems more interested in punishing kids that do drugs than rapists and pedos. What good is 4 years or less in prison? Should leave them there to rot.
Sex criminals (the non falsely accused that is) can't be rehabilitated, this is long known - old police studies found each would have upward of dozens, if not hundreds of victims, no exaggeration here. They are not normal people.
Correct. You cannot "cure" paedophilia just like you cannot take a hetero adult and "cure" them and make them turn gay. Paedo's have high rates of recidivism. Both my father and brother have been to prison when they were young. They have both told me stories of paedo's, or rock spiders as we call them in Australia, being Epsteined. This is why they are protected in prison - which is a great shame.
A guy of 16 we knew sexually assaulted me when I was 13 - my father grabbed his shotty and we went hunting. The only reason he didn't shoot him was because I didn't want my dad to go to jail. His face was however forever imprinted with the shape of the stock. He never did it again. It worked. A court case would have likely resulted in a slap on the wrist and the reinforcement in the fucktards mind that you can get away with being a sexual predator if you plan more carefully. I hope he looks at his ugly face in the mirror every day and remembers =)
Vengeance is evil. Pedophiles need to be taken out of society to protect children, either by the courts or through extrajudicial means if they won’t do it. That doesn’t make it ok to hate the pedo. They wouldn’t be one if they could help it. In fact, it’s the same evil spirit driving them which causes you to hate them and seek retribution.
True, justification isn't possible, There is nothing right about murdering someone else. But there is also nothing right about raping a young girl. There is especially nothing right about the police not having enough evidence to even look at the guy. Where is the justification there? In the end, the father doesn't care what happens to him anymore. It doesn't matter whether killing the rapist is justified or not. It's a thing that needs to get done because it's the only form of justice that will come for his daughter, when the justice system fails. That's his justification. And that's all that matters.
Besides, it is excusable under the law via a heat of passion defense. Not justifiable, but excusable. There's a difference.
This guy probably didn't get heat of passion because he waited until the police said they wouldn't investigate the pedo. He sort of planned it out by going to get his gun etc.
Heat of passion is more like snapping in the moment you hear about it, going straight to the pedo and killing him with whatever you find along the way or even bare hands.
But there is also nothing right about raping a young girl.
I am absolutely one hundred precent not defending rapists.
There is especially nothing right about the police not having enough evidence to even look at the guy.
Thats why I think this story is fake every time it makes the rounds. A child needing stitches from some sort of rape after being at a friend's house and that child stating who raped her is definitely enough evidence to get a warrant. At which point the stated video tapes would have been found.
It's a thing that needs to get done because it's the only form of justice that will come for his daughter, when the justice system fails.
It's not. Murder is not justifiable. If the guy did it and the system fails, keep tabs on him, catch him in the act, use lethal force then. That's the only way it's justified and morally sound.
I get what you’re saying, and I agree with you in principle. The problem is, you can do some serious time for that, and when you’re locked up who protects your children then? That said, if I ever wind up on the jury of a pedophile killer, especially a parent, there is no way I convict.
Any parent who refuses to kill their child's rapist should be scorned for being the piece of shit that they truly are.
My mom continued to be with my abuser after she found out. She ended up sobbing and asking for forgiveness years later. I don’t hate her but she will never have my love ever again. And when she dies, I’ll shrug my shoulders and probably go eat a sandwich or something.
Sorry. I'm sorry that you weren't protected as a child.
My parents dumped me and my brother off with a pedo. I had to protect my little brother from him. Fortunately, I was old enough to counter his advances and threaten him with going to authorities.
Sorry bud
that's horrible. my guess something shot happened here as child as well? i'd be on a rampage if someone hurt my babies sorry your parents failed you
I'm sorry you had to go through that. Did she say why she stuck around?
This is another reason why single parenthood is so bad, and we should get back to condemning sex before marriage and make it more difficult to get divorced.
Step fathers are always potential threats to young girls.
Also, the corporate fake news media loves to accuse Catholic priests of pedophilia, but sexual assaults are much more commonplace in government public schools and in Hollywood culture.
100%
Your child has a higher chance of being molested by the teacher or sports coach than the Catholic priest.
Yup. At my high school alone 2 teachers were fired for sleeping with students.
In cases where the abuser is the father the kid would be better off with the mother being a single parent.
She was probably abused as a kid too. This does NOT excuse what she did. My mother was in the same situation, but I can’t forgive her.
We make choices. I chose not to have kids and I chose not to ever abuse anyone, despite multigenerational incest in my family. It’s horrifying. Both my parents should be in jail. My father just kept quiet and covered everything up. My abuser was primarily my grandfather and he was a cop. NYPD had a pedo ring.
She never said but I can tell you she was incredibly dependent on being with a man. She was and is a terrible excuse for a parent. Without Jesus Christ in my life, I don’t know how I’d manage to get through each day.
Nobody gives a fuck. Don’t try to rationalize it.
Please try to read more better
A friend's family had a similar story when I was a teen. Mom's new boyfriend molested her 12 yo daughter. Mom stayed with the guy afterwards (don't remember if she was just in denial or what the reason was.)
The molesting asshole ended up in prison, the girl's father got full custody and the mom was ostracized by pretty much everyone.
God @NoMoRedditYo - I'm so sorry that happened. I don't get it. But so many people feel if they ignore something or pretend it isn't happening that it will just go away or right itself.
Best advice I ever heard a Therapist give to a friend who had been in your situation: "Look around you at the weak people, the dumbasses, and cowards in your school. Now realize one day they will be parents. Ask yourself if those people would know what to do in your situation. The answer is probably "no" - or even "hell no!" Some people are born cowards and have spent their lives avoiding taking action or taking responsibility. You were unlucky enough to be born from one of those. Not your fault. So... what can you do? Keep aching? Or make a determination here and now not to be like that. We become who we are in spite of or because of our parents. You now have a choice to Parent Yourself. It sounds weird, but it works. Go into meditation. Imagine you are a parent holding you as a baby. Talk to the baby. Love it. Ask for forgiveness for not knowing what to do. Hug that baby and promise from today on you will protect them and help them heal."
I never forgot that. I helped my friend go through a meditation process like that. I could see the difference in her face within moments. Take your power and use it in a good way. Then swear you won't let what happened to you happen to anyone else if there is any way possible.
God Bless.
This needs more upvotes!
I’ll go one step further than Big-E (though I agree), this post needs its own thread!
Honestly, I find it hard to imagine anyone capable of not killing their child's rapist.
People disagreeing do not have a daughter and cannot relate to a love deep enough to agree with this.
What fucking jury found him guilty is what i want to know.
Probably a plea deal taken on the advice of some pussy ass lawyer.
I don't think it matters if it's your son or daughter you'd feel the same way as a parent. Just because you have a girl would not make it worse than if you had a boy.
Yeah, sure. I don't disagree, but that's not the point I'm making.
We're not talking about how you would feel if it happened, we're talking about the feeling you have thinking about it now, fearing it might happen.
As a parent of every known gender, I can say my fears for one gender differs from the fear I have for the other. For instance, in my mind, it's much more likely for a boy to break a leg playing sports than it is for him to be raped by a man. Now, maybe that's an accurate opinion, maybe it's not. Doesn't matter, it's not the point. The vast majority of people worry differently for different people in their lives.
So when someone says "killing someone who rapes your daughter is unreasonable" I must assume it's because they either don't have kids at all, or have only boys, and therefore they can't really imagine that actually happening to their sons the way one might fear it happening to their daughter. So they conflate their perceived likelihood of it happening to their son with the severity of the stated reaction -or more simple they can't really envision it, so the statement about killing a rapist seems extreme.
In either case, addressing them as daughterless is appropriate.
In my opinion, if you're a father who wouldn't at least consider killing your daughters rapist? You don't really love your daughter. Sure, same for a son. But until it happens, I'm more concerned about him wrecking his motorcycle, dig?
It’s easy to imagine people not taking the country back after they steal it and put everyone on lockdown and in poverty.
Ignore this glowie. Xer entire post history is stereotypical glowie trash calling people here cowards for not committing violence. Look how many of this phony's posts are deleted by the mods. For some reason they won't ban xer.
Dafuq did I just read. English, motherfucker, do you speak it?
Not really. Lethal force is only justified to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to a human being.
So it's entirely understandable to want to kill someone for committing that kind of act but it's not justifiable unless you killed the guy while he was commiting the act.
Edit: you all can downvote me all you want but all this "I don't understand how someone could NOT murder a child molester!" shit seriously sounds like a bunch of white knighting. Murder is not an acceptable response to any heinous crime.
You and people like you represent a danger to society that is nearly on par with the pedophiles.
Lemme guess: you think the primary function of prison is rehabilitation lol
Why becuase I don't support people taking the law into their own hands especially when it involves taking a life? That kind of shit will only lead to innocent people being murdered. There is a reason the founding fathers made the system for convicting someone of a crime difficult. You don't get to become judge, jury and executionor just because the crime committed is truly evil.
No, the primary function is clearly punishment, but unless the person is sentenced to life in prison then the primary function should be rehabilitation, and the secondary function should be punishment.
If we intend to let someone out of prison, we should take steps to insure they won't return the the life that led them to prison in the first place.
It's not socially acceptable but it's very much understandable, in fact I understand it better than not wanting to get vengeance. If someone did that to a family member I'd want to brain them with a hammer.
With a functioning justice system I agree, vigilante justice is not the way to go, but the current system seems more interested in punishing kids that do drugs than rapists and pedos. What good is 4 years or less in prison? Should leave them there to rot.
Sex criminals (the non falsely accused that is) can't be rehabilitated, this is long known - old police studies found each would have upward of dozens, if not hundreds of victims, no exaggeration here. They are not normal people.
Correct. You cannot "cure" paedophilia just like you cannot take a hetero adult and "cure" them and make them turn gay. Paedo's have high rates of recidivism. Both my father and brother have been to prison when they were young. They have both told me stories of paedo's, or rock spiders as we call them in Australia, being Epsteined. This is why they are protected in prison - which is a great shame.
A guy of 16 we knew sexually assaulted me when I was 13 - my father grabbed his shotty and we went hunting. The only reason he didn't shoot him was because I didn't want my dad to go to jail. His face was however forever imprinted with the shape of the stock. He never did it again. It worked. A court case would have likely resulted in a slap on the wrist and the reinforcement in the fucktards mind that you can get away with being a sexual predator if you plan more carefully. I hope he looks at his ugly face in the mirror every day and remembers =)
Vengeance is evil. Pedophiles need to be taken out of society to protect children, either by the courts or through extrajudicial means if they won’t do it. That doesn’t make it ok to hate the pedo. They wouldn’t be one if they could help it. In fact, it’s the same evil spirit driving them which causes you to hate them and seek retribution.
True, justification isn't possible, There is nothing right about murdering someone else. But there is also nothing right about raping a young girl. There is especially nothing right about the police not having enough evidence to even look at the guy. Where is the justification there? In the end, the father doesn't care what happens to him anymore. It doesn't matter whether killing the rapist is justified or not. It's a thing that needs to get done because it's the only form of justice that will come for his daughter, when the justice system fails. That's his justification. And that's all that matters.
Besides, it is excusable under the law via a heat of passion defense. Not justifiable, but excusable. There's a difference.
This guy probably didn't get heat of passion because he waited until the police said they wouldn't investigate the pedo. He sort of planned it out by going to get his gun etc.
Heat of passion is more like snapping in the moment you hear about it, going straight to the pedo and killing him with whatever you find along the way or even bare hands.
13 years for pre meditated murder of the pedo who raped your daughter is pretty excessive though, IMO.
For justice to be satisfied, since he took the law into his own hands but considering mitigating circumstances, would not a year have been plenty?
I can live with that, and I can see it as a valid reason to lock a guy up for 13 years for murder instead of life.
I am absolutely one hundred precent not defending rapists.
Thats why I think this story is fake every time it makes the rounds. A child needing stitches from some sort of rape after being at a friend's house and that child stating who raped her is definitely enough evidence to get a warrant. At which point the stated video tapes would have been found.
It's not. Murder is not justifiable. If the guy did it and the system fails, keep tabs on him, catch him in the act, use lethal force then. That's the only way it's justified and morally sound.
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I get what you’re saying, and I agree with you in principle. The problem is, you can do some serious time for that, and when you’re locked up who protects your children then? That said, if I ever wind up on the jury of a pedophile killer, especially a parent, there is no way I convict.
God's law > man's law
We are judged by God's law
Sometimes, you must ask for forgiveness.
Um.... Yeah, I'm not going to advocate for murder.