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maleitch 3 points ago +21 / -18

That isn't what she says and any left wing marxist is going to shred you to pieces in a debate about it.

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JMaN 8 points ago +8 / -0

She talks about a case that won a huge settlement where the mitochondria malfunctions, which she says happens in some children leading to lack of energy production in the brain, fever symptoms and then autism... Right after vaccination...

And then that asshole's next question is if they can say for "certain is that childhood vaccinations do not cause autism." ??????? (After bringing up his own children to psychologically manipulate and gain trust of audience)

Then she says "what we can say ABSOLUTELY FOR SURE is that WE DON'T UNDERSTAND the causes of autism..."

WHAT THE FUCK? THESE PEOPLE ARE PSYCHOPATHS! They play a semantics game when they speak! It's insane!

Who cares what left wing marxists say? They are wrong and contradict themselves constantly!

"We are absolutely sure that we don't know..." ??????

I'm done.

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maleitch -2 points ago +2 / -4

Your first paragraph is incorrect, she says the mitochondria malfunction can be triggered by any event that causes the body to go into defense mode. Is the person gets a fever from a reaction to a vaccine or a fever from the flu the same reaction would have been triggered.

I am not defending vaccines, but I hate when our side is made to look stupid because some are too emotional to get past confirmation bias and make sure their information is correct.

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Kingoftheroad 3 points ago +3 / -0

Right it could be any event...like vaccines. So they do cause it, the first paragraph may have been incomplete but it wasnt incorrect...and we don't know if those children would have developed autism without the vaccine but from a fever from the flu, but I dont know enough to say it is possible or impossible.

It doesn't look stupid because that is what was said. In children that are predisposed, the effects of the vaccine can cause autism, and it was left open ended to whether or not they would have developed autism from another source of strain on the body.

That wont be good enough for these people anyway because no data was cited, and even then they would find a way to disregard it if it was. So I agree we need to be accurate and informed and not use emotion to determine conclusions. And then stand up and speak out, and when up against people who don't want to believe anything different than what they've believed so passionately or for so long, try not to get burned out while expecting a never ending uphill battle with forever moving goalposts, hoping to eventually convince some who will hopefully convince some others, themselves.